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Title: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: godofthunder on March 04, 2015, 03:15:27 AM
   I gave the final drawings the ok early this week. The Badbird II will fit all post 1989 Gibson and Epiphone Thunderbirds or any bass with a three point bridge. The Badbird II  is a two piece 60s style bridge. The bridge will provide greater sustain and better tone due to a greater angle of string break across the saddles and due to the tailpiece no more string windings on the saddles.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 04, 2015, 05:48:21 AM
Interesting, can't wait to see it.
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Post by: Dave W on March 04, 2015, 09:10:17 AM
Good for you. It'll have a bigger potential market than your original Badbird.
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Post by: TBird1958 on March 04, 2015, 10:51:52 AM


Way cool Scott!

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Post by: Basvarken on March 04, 2015, 12:20:41 PM
Interesting!
Hope there is enough demand for your Badbird II now that the Babicz is also a good replacement for the three point bridge.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 04, 2015, 01:11:01 PM
The Babicz is so dang large though... also, I haven't seen one up close yet - does it contact the body wood like the Hipshot Supertone? 
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Basvarken on March 04, 2015, 01:24:34 PM
Not as large as that Hipshot monstrosity.
And yes. Contact, hence the name full contact bridge  ;)

(http://cdn.snappages.com/kug2i3/assets/2245098_2568143_1424374634.jpg)

But back to Scott's bridge now.

We need pics Scott!  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 04, 2015, 01:31:44 PM
Yeah, so the Babicz is out for me as an option.  Eagerly awaiting details/pics of the Badbird II design.
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Post by: Nocturnal on March 04, 2015, 08:16:11 PM
Looking forward to seeing it Scott!
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Post by: doombass on March 05, 2015, 03:12:59 PM
Really exciting news Scott.
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Post by: rexdiablo on March 05, 2015, 05:17:52 PM
I've had a Babicz and found it really uncomfortable for palm muting playing pick style. It's the only bridge with which I've ever had this problem. Plus the 2 pieces are so much more elegant!

For the record my Babicz was on a Gretsch, so the model may have been different...
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Dave W on March 05, 2015, 09:20:04 PM
Quote from: Basvarken on March 04, 2015, 01:24:34 PM
Not as large as that Hipshot monstrosity.
And yes. Contact, hence the name full contact bridge  ;)

But back to Scott's bridge now.

We need pics Scott!  :popcorn:

The Hipshot looks bad on a Thunderbird, hanging over the edge of the center section. Not bad on an EB-0/EB-3. But a two-piece Badbird will be better looking.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: godofthunder on March 06, 2015, 07:58:15 AM
  Pictures once I have one in hand and the legal mumbo jumbo is complete.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 06, 2015, 08:09:21 AM
What about just the drawring(s) [sic] then.

Keepin us waiting like this.  You monster.
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Post by: planetgaffnet on March 07, 2015, 09:16:38 AM
I'm thinking that this question is as plain as the nose on my face, but am I correct in assuming that as the bridge is a two part design, the bridge itself it will fit on the two rear bolts of the old three pointer and the string anchors will require the body to be drilled?

Thanks
Paul
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: dadagoboi on March 07, 2015, 09:47:17 AM
Original tailpiece?
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: godofthunder on March 07, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
  Yes the bridge will be a two piece bridge with the airfoil tailpiece. So there will be three screws and three pilot hole to drill for installation.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost ready to drop!
Post by: planetgaffnet on March 07, 2015, 02:47:50 PM
Hmm.  In light of this malarky (and apologising is advance for coming over to the New Jedi Order), but now I'm wondering whether it's time to consider de-blacking and chroming-up one of my 'birds.

I hate you.
P
x
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Dave W on March 07, 2015, 03:04:30 PM
We'll just have to wait and see.  :)

I can't imagine Scott releasing any pics or plans before he's ready to take orders.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost ready to drop!
Post by: TBird1958 on March 07, 2015, 03:41:23 PM
Quote from: planetgaffnet on March 07, 2015, 02:47:50 PM
Hmm.  In light of this malarky (and apologising is advance for coming over to the New Jedi Order), but now I'm wondering whether it's time to consider de-blacking and chroming-up one of my 'birds.

I hate you.
P
x



;D


It's always just a matter of time  ;)
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Highlander on March 07, 2015, 05:10:54 PM
Chromist... :P ;)
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Post by: Pilgrim on March 07, 2015, 05:27:12 PM
Mark sez "Come to the chrome side!"

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRmsyxaWH-PJXjco46aFfnl8C5WmroyA0PMbX1dLrT4eiwouhP)
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Highlander on March 07, 2015, 05:47:03 PM
Nooooooooooo..... :o
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: godofthunder on March 09, 2015, 09:20:59 AM
  I did a test installation on the Butcherbird with the original Badbird. Aside from not being wide enough to intonate I was happy with the results.(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/badbirdbutcherbirdM8studs003_zpsc3f6cc08.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/badbirdbutcherbirdM8studs001_zps8f07e285.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/badbirdbutcherbirdM8studs002_zps9786d6c7.jpg)
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: OldManC on March 09, 2015, 08:48:52 PM
Nice, Scott! That looks lovely. I can't wait to see the finished model.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: 999 on March 10, 2015, 06:20:59 AM
Great idea! Much nicer alternative to the 3-point than either the Babicz or Hipshot IMO.
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on March 10, 2015, 07:42:44 AM
Shoot...Just plug and redrill... it's worth it to have an intonated bass with Perfect sustain...Of all the changes Gibson did.. they REALLY should have used the Tune o matic on ALL of their basses.. Period.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: godofthunder on March 10, 2015, 07:58:44 AM
Plug and redrill isn't really practical, it would involve touch up or refinishing. I don't want to get into that I wanted to produce something just about anyone can install.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Basvarken on March 10, 2015, 08:17:12 AM
Nice Scott!

Now all you need to do is make a chrome button with Dasson logo for that third hole.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: godofthunder on March 10, 2015, 08:42:23 AM
 :) actually It will come with a low profile threaded cap screw.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: uwe on March 10, 2015, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: Highlander on March 07, 2015, 05:47:03 PM
Nooooooooooo..... :o

As of now, I'm just taking aim ...

The Black Sniper
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: TBird1958 on March 10, 2015, 11:16:26 AM


Very cool Scott - there are more Post '88s than any other so creating a product that's easy to use and gives a more vintage appearance - It rocks!
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 10, 2015, 02:07:38 PM
Hmmmmn.

Now I love cantilevers as much as the next guy, but not when it comes to bridge design.  I reserve judgment until I see one tho.
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Blackbird on March 10, 2015, 03:27:28 PM
So from a tech-rookie perspective...what is the advantage of this bridge over the 3-point on a modern bird?
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: Highlander on March 10, 2015, 03:32:14 PM
Quote from: uwe on March 10, 2015, 08:56:59 AM
As of now, I'm just taking aim ...

The Black Sniper

In the modern PC world, possibly not the best of monikers... perhaps a variation on a well known expression... Let there be dark... :vader:
Title: Re: Badbird II almost readt to drop!
Post by: TBird1958 on March 10, 2015, 06:25:28 PM
Quote from: Blackbird on March 10, 2015, 03:27:28 PM
So from a tech-rookie perspective...what is the advantage of this bridge over the 3-point on a modern bird?


First, it does look a lot like the original two point design Gibson used on early Thunderbirds - Second, (while I've never had trouble with a 3 point) this isn't a 3 point -  and for many that's a good reason too  :)