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Title: thought for the day
Post by: nofi on January 18, 2014, 08:34:39 AM
beware of the stranger who upon meeting you blurts out within five minutes that he is a lead guitarist. not just a guitarist but a lead guitarist. it will be impossible to have a conversation with this person as the topic will always snap back to him. same thing applies to every instrument player but full disclosure may take a bit longer. hell, the tuba guy may say nothing at all.

Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: westen44 on January 18, 2014, 09:50:10 AM
I've had a tendency to have good luck with guitarists.  But I've observed second hand the bad attitudes quite a number of times. 
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Highlander on January 18, 2014, 11:47:06 AM
[Blackmore/Gillan] Could've been worse... could've been the singer... [/Blackmore/Gillan] ;D
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: the mojo hobo on January 20, 2014, 07:00:31 AM
You mean the lead singer, don't you?
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: uwe on January 20, 2014, 12:43:11 PM
Most guitarists need to be led. That is how lead guitarist really needs to be pronounced.
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Pilgrim on January 20, 2014, 01:16:19 PM
Quote from: uwe on January 20, 2014, 12:43:11 PM
Most guitarists need to be led. That is how lead guitarist really needs to be pronounced.

Do Zepplins need to be led?  (He asked innocently...)
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Highlander on January 20, 2014, 01:18:35 PM
Only if they're called Hindenburg...
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Hörnisse on January 20, 2014, 03:37:30 PM
The lead balloon?  ;)

Q:How Many Lead Guitarists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A:Four. One to change it and three to stand back and say "Not bad, but I could have done it way better"
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Dave W on January 20, 2014, 03:42:09 PM
I thought it was one to stand still while the rest of the world revolves around him. Or maybe that was the lead singer.
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: hieronymous on January 20, 2014, 04:24:52 PM
Quote from: the mojo hobo on January 20, 2014, 07:00:31 AM
You mean the lead singer, don't you?
I got to see Tower of Power the other day, and though Rocco Prestia wasn't there (unfortunately he is again in need of a liver transplant (http://www.towerofpower.com/rocco_bio/)), it has rejuvenated my interest in him and the band. This is from an interview with him in Vintage Guitar magazine (http://www.vintageguitar.com/3782/rocco-prestia/):

Why were there so many singers in this band?
Because we got tired of their asses!

Usually that would spell failure for a band because the audience identifies with the singer.
For whatever reason, they either wouldn't work out, or they'd leave on their own. You know, singers in general are freaking head cases. A lot of them have "L.S.D." – Lead Singer Disease, for anyone who doesn't know. We had a lot of great ones, though.


According to the article they had five singers in their first ten years!
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Highlander on January 20, 2014, 04:32:09 PM
What of the even worse predicament - the multiple lead-singer band... :o
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: hieronymous on January 20, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: CAR-54 on January 20, 2014, 04:32:09 PM
What of the even worse predicament - the multiple lead-singer band... :o
I'm pretty sure TOP only had one lead singer at a time - I'm trying not to think about a multiple lead-singer band, but Jefferson Airplane springs to mind... *shiver*
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: westen44 on January 20, 2014, 06:44:41 PM
Quote from: hieronymous on January 20, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
I'm pretty sure TOP only had one lead singer at a time - I'm trying not to think about a multiple lead-singer band, but Jefferson Airplane springs to mind... *shiver*

Two lead singers:  Lacuna Coil
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: hieronymous on January 20, 2014, 06:49:08 PM
Quote from: westen44 on January 20, 2014, 06:44:41 PM
Two lead singers:  Lacuna Coil
Another one: Deep Purple Mk. III!

Does it count if they also play an instrument?  ;D
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on January 20, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: westen44 on January 20, 2014, 06:44:41 PM
Two lead singers:  Lacuna Coil

They work because they rarely actually get together except onstage. Their albums are FTP'ed track by track from each member's home studio and mixed in the label's studio, but when they're not touring, they basically don't even know each other.
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: westen44 on January 20, 2014, 07:57:15 PM
Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on January 20, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
They work because they rarely actually get together except onstage. Their albums are FTP'ed track by track from each member's home studio and mixed in the label's studio, but when they're not touring, they basically don't even know each other.

But they have done a lot of touring haven't they?  At least I think they used to.  Plus, the band has been together for years.  I read somewhere that the bassist doesn't even tour with them anymore.  I don't know for sure.  I've never seen them live. 
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: westen44 on January 20, 2014, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: hieronymous on January 20, 2014, 06:49:08 PM
Another one: Deep Purple Mk. III!

Does it count if they also play an instrument?  ;D

Not sure.  I'm sure people could make all kinds of categorizations with various bands if they wanted to, of course. 
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on January 20, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
Quote from: westen44 on January 20, 2014, 07:57:15 PM
But they have done a lot of touring haven't they?  At least I think they used to.  Plus, the band has been together for years.  I read somewhere that the bassist doesn't even tour with them anymore.  I don't know for sure.  I've never seen them live. 

They do spot tours and partials. I don't think they've done any extensive touring in almost a decade. They had a good idea with their first two albums and the music is still good, but the magic is gone. It's just boring now.
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: westen44 on January 21, 2014, 02:49:57 AM
Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on January 20, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
They do spot tours and partials. I don't think they've done any extensive touring in almost a decade. They had a good idea with their first two albums and the music is still good, but the magic is gone. It's just boring now.

Then what I read about the bassist may be true.  Maybe he is mostly involved with something else.  I think I may have also read they are working on a new album.  I was never really a fan, but years ago I did buy a few of their albums.  Then I lost touch for the most part. 
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: uwe on January 21, 2014, 12:16:56 PM
It worked quite a while for these guys here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CuNBengxaQ

Yes, I know, I just went up a few notches on the uncoolometer. Not only do I remember Three Dog Night, I have the nerve to post them. Still have a soft spot for them.

Nor do they make dry ice machines like they used to either!  :mrgreen: The one they used here must have been a remnant from the Tirpitz' camouflage system vis-à-vis the RAF!
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Dave W on January 21, 2014, 12:20:56 PM
I thought they were okay until they put out that stupid Black and White single in the early 70s. Good singers. Embarrassingly bad stage duds though, even for that era.
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Highlander on January 21, 2014, 12:23:54 PM
TDN was the one that jumped to mind with me, as well as JA/JS
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: westen44 on January 21, 2014, 12:33:31 PM
My favorite song by them was Never Been to Spain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm6qw_yeo6o
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: uwe on January 21, 2014, 01:10:11 PM
They sure had a hand in picking songs from not yet established songwriters and turning them into hits. And through all that non-original material you could still recognize them after a few seconds. As for their live presentation ..., well that already had cabaret act/Las Vegas written on its forehead before even they thought about that part of their career.

I liked Tony Orlando & Dawn's Tie a Yellow Ribbon too btw!   :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Dave W on January 21, 2014, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: uwe on January 21, 2014, 01:10:11 PM

I liked Tony Orlando & Dawn's Tie a Yellow Ribbon too btw!   :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

That was only one lead singer.

Never thought much of Tony one way or the other until I found out he was a big Bobby Darin fan. That made me appreciate him a little.
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Highlander on January 21, 2014, 01:43:35 PM
Anyone for some ABBA...?
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: uwe on January 21, 2014, 01:49:05 PM
True, I was getting carried away, I'll make up for it I swear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm4tmZbcixc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHPieD34Ww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJRKg07W1zU
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: uwe on January 21, 2014, 01:52:15 PM
Quote from: CAR-54 on January 21, 2014, 01:43:35 PM
Anyone for some ABBA...?

Of course! No shame in that. ABBA were brilliant. Incidentally, Ritchie likes them too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXcgKPFyoCo


But Britain had some real quality too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKeJ4yheQ3A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH3WvI_S6-k

Not to forget the fastest skirt change in musical history (at 1:50):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pACePi441ds

It's little musical highlights like that which stay with you forever.


Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Highlander on January 21, 2014, 02:29:52 PM
I'm going to lie down now...
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: westen44 on January 21, 2014, 03:11:29 PM
I don't know if this can be viewed in Europe, but if not, that's probably a good thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X_pmHr7zW8
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: uwe on January 21, 2014, 03:19:47 PM
Hey, I like it. It's a bit like Cake. Better than Soundgarden or Nirvana certainly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiyoCZUwwYg

Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: Hörnisse on January 21, 2014, 08:14:55 PM
Anyone for some fish head soup?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn73Wtem0No
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: TBird1958 on January 21, 2014, 10:21:13 PM
Quote from: uwe on January 21, 2014, 03:19:47 PM
Hey, I like it. It's a bit like Cake. Better than Soundgarden or Nirvana certainly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiyoCZUwwYg




Until you've been in Washington for an eternal, gray 9 months of not summer, you can't really relate
to either Soundgarden or Nirvana  :-* 
Title: Re: thought for the day
Post by: uwe on January 22, 2014, 01:57:00 AM
I like my depressive music with some sullen harmony! Not erratic chording up and down the neck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMw6ldKEjp4