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Title: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on July 27, 2013, 04:02:47 PM
I bought this bass in 1996, with the intention of getting it refinished back to it's original color. I was still in my collecting mode, so getting this done was low on my priority list. My wife & I were going to take a short trip to La Crosse Wisconsin, so I had to stop at Dave's Guitar Shop. I brought it along, showed it to him & he agreed to restore it. I'm sure he and his employees will do a great job. It should be done in 4 to 6 weeks.

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Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Pilgrim on July 27, 2013, 04:30:16 PM
It doesn't look like it needs to be restored...looks good.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Denis on July 27, 2013, 04:56:46 PM
That thing is nice! What a pretty hunk of wood!
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Highlander on July 27, 2013, 05:19:31 PM
It doesn't look like it needs to be restored...looks good.

+1

Save the money and use it for extras on the trip ...
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on July 27, 2013, 05:23:13 PM
The refin that it has now might look better in the photos, but it's kind of rough looking. I also wanted it cherry again. My other basses are from the later sixty's, stained in the darker cherry. I considered doing this one the same, but decided on keeping it original. If it hadn't already been refinished, I would have probably left it as it was.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Dave W on July 27, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
That one deserves a nice restoration.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on July 27, 2013, 10:21:14 PM
It'll look like new for it's 50th birthday in 2014, but it'll still sound like an electric fart! :vader:
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: amptech on July 28, 2013, 01:44:38 AM
It'll look like new for it's 50th birthday in 2014, but it'll still sound like an electric fart! :vader:

One can only wonder what music would sound like today if the EB0F set the standard for bass electronics back then.
The eighties would be remembered for purple metallic eb basses with chorus modified fuzz tone circuits and EMG mudbuckers  :)

But I agree, brown ain´t right for this axe. My EBOF needs one to, it had a cherry refin in the 80´s and it is has a slight purple-ish hue.
The only problem is that the refin is so perfectly done...
The good thing ´bout it was that the original electronics was gone - and I couldn´t find decent working 2N270´s.
So I built a fuzzface kind of circuit, works great - if you cut the attack the volume is just a boost.
A boosted mudbucker, now that´s something :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: godofthunder on July 28, 2013, 06:55:41 AM
 many Early EB0s and EB3s I have seen have faded out a more brown tone. I first noticed this in the early-mid 70's. The fading   could take place rather quickly say over the course of ten years or so. If that is the original finish I would keep it just as it is.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on July 28, 2013, 07:54:42 AM
The guitar had been refinished rather poorly. The clear coat, which I'm not sure what it even is, had a lot of drips & voids. This guitar showed up for a couple years at several local guitar shows. I bought the hand rest off of it for my 1967 EB-2. It was finally purchased by a local vintage guitar store. He had two of them in his store at the same time. The other one was more of a purple cherry, he claimed it was original. He passed away suddenly, I ended up buying the bass from his wife at his estate sale. If they did come in the more purple cherry, I would have refinished it to match my other cherry SG shaped basses. Even the EB-4L is the darker cherry. The sun seems to fade the cherry to almost a walnut color. The heat from your hand fades the back of the neck also. You get an oval mark under your STP sticker as it fades...... :-[

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/DSC07311.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/DSC07311.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: godofthunder on July 28, 2013, 08:28:36 AM
Ok didn't know it was a refin! Have at it!
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: 4stringer77 on July 28, 2013, 09:49:19 AM
Cherry will be nice but if your doing a refin it couldn't hurt to consider a custom color could it? I mean for a bass as funky as the EB-OF, an equally funky color almost seems appropriate. Heather or Inverness or Kerry Green perhaps?
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Dave W on July 28, 2013, 07:01:16 PM
George, you bought it from Roger Benedict's estate?

I agree with doing it in cherry. A Gibson custom color wouldn't be wrong but IMHO would look out of place on an EB-0F.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Granny Gremlin on July 29, 2013, 08:15:04 AM
That would look awesome in Polaris White or TV Yellow.

Cherry is just so ... typical.  It's already refinned, so I'd say have some fun with it. ... and IMO correctness is over-rated.

Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on July 29, 2013, 09:27:29 AM
George, you bought it from Roger Benedict's estate?

I agree with doing it in cherry. A Gibson custom color wouldn't be wrong but IMHO would look out of place on an EB-0F.

It did come from Roger Benedict's estate. The two he had & the one you bought from Willie's are the only three I've ever seen in this town. I bought a '67 ES-335 from Roger saw the two in his store at that time. As far as custom colors, I guess I'm kind of boring. A Les Paul Custom should be black, etc................. If it would have had a neck repair or other major damage, Polaris White would have made it look cool & hid the repair.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Barklessdog on July 29, 2013, 05:50:32 PM
Very cool bass and I agree with the cherry refin.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on September 13, 2013, 03:31:01 PM
Just received some photos of the progress of the refin...................... Looking good!

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Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Denis on September 13, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
That's a beauty!
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Dave W on September 13, 2013, 09:24:23 PM
That will be beautiful when it's done.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: godofthunder on September 15, 2013, 06:08:37 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: drbassman on September 15, 2013, 06:25:53 AM
Looking good!  Love that cherry finish!
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: uwe on September 26, 2013, 05:58:05 AM
I'm in two minds about the blue fretboard, but other than that ...

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on October 18, 2013, 02:22:41 PM
It sounds like the bass is done, If we weren't heading up to Duluth this weekend, we'd jump in the car & pick it up. I'll have to wait until next weekend to get my "Electric Fart" back. It looks like it's all spruced up for it's fiftieth birthday!

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/000_9220_zps83a453ce.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/000_9220_zps83a453ce.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Highlander on October 18, 2013, 03:53:26 PM
Happy birthday...!  ;)
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Dave W on October 18, 2013, 08:12:43 PM
Accumulating snow (1-3") predicted for Duluth this weekend. Enjoy!
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on October 18, 2013, 08:24:39 PM
Accumulating snow (1-3") predicted for Duluth this weekend. Enjoy!

We are staying at Fitgers, I might just stay in the brew pub..................... I'm not ready to deal with snow this early!  :-\
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: TBird1958 on October 18, 2013, 09:05:00 PM


 That is very beautiful! Lovely work, get it home safe! 
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on October 20, 2013, 03:21:13 PM
Accumulating snow (1-3") predicted for Duluth this weekend. Enjoy!

It didn't snow in Duluth while we were there, but we ran into some fairly heavy stuff on the way home. Traffic came to a complete stop several times on 35.  ???
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Pilgrim on October 20, 2013, 03:46:30 PM
We are staying at Fitgers, I might just stay in the brew pub..................... I'm not ready to deal with snow this early!  :-\

We had a couple inches of snow last Friday here in Fort Collins.  My wife and daughter were out hiking today and say it snowed on them.  This is AWD car heaven...the crossover and SUV are the national cars of Colorado.  I think there are more SUbarus and Jeeps here than anywhere I've ever lived.

I drive a 2007 Murano AWD.
My wife has a 2009 BMW 328ix AWD coupe
Oldest daughter drives a 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 4WD
Youngest daughter drives a 2008 Saab 9.3 Aero (V6, Turbo) XWD
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on October 20, 2013, 07:02:43 PM
I just finally sprung for 4-Wheel Drive vehicles for the first time. I bought a poor mans Land Rover, A Toyota 4Runner just shy of four years ago. We were traveling through the Colorado mountains during the last big snowfall last spring, I was glad to have it. Last spring I bought my wife a Toyota Highlander 4WD, I was hoping it would kick the 4WD  in today, to see how it worked, but it didn't. Living in Minnesota, major snow is almost a guarantee....................
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: gweimer on October 20, 2013, 07:18:33 PM
I've driven standard 2WD vehicles most my life, at least in the really bad weather.  When I first got my Saturn, it was the first AWD vehicle I had every driven.  It was only a week old when I found myself slowing skidding around a curve with no control.  It took some time to get used to the feel and response of AWD.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Pilgrim on October 20, 2013, 08:08:01 PM
No kidding!  WIth AWD it's easy to slip MUCH wider in a turn than with FWD or RWD.

Most of us here probably grew up driving RWD and can go pretty much anywhere with it.  AWD just makes it easier and less hassle.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Dave W on October 20, 2013, 08:22:13 PM
I'll stick with my 2wd pickup, thanks. There have been a few instances where 4wd would have been nice but I'll manage.

Now go get that bass!
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on October 23, 2013, 04:18:17 PM
Guaranteed Lowest Price.............. New Price!............(NO WAY!!)

 http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Vintage-VINT-1964-GIBSON-EB-OF-BASS-FUZZTONE-CHY-104129713-i1629668.gc
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Dave W on October 23, 2013, 10:01:31 PM
Guaranteed Lowest Price.............. New Price!............(NO WAY!!)

 http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Vintage-VINT-1964-GIBSON-EB-OF-BASS-FUZZTONE-CHY-104129713-i1629668.gc


I'll bet it is the lowest priced EB-0F in the store.
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on October 27, 2013, 09:39:39 PM
He's back home with his "Red Neck" brothers........... Before & after.........
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(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/PairH_zpsfbdaec64.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/PairH_zpsfbdaec64.jpg.html)

Dave's Crew did a great job!
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: amptech on October 28, 2013, 02:56:07 AM
It looks great, I can't imagine EB0F in solid colours no matter how tempting it can be when you have an axe with a bad fin.
I love my EB0F, my favourite short scale :)
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Dave W on October 28, 2013, 08:02:23 AM
Very nice!

Did you see anything new and interesting at Dave's?
Title: Re: 1964 EB-0F Getting Refinished............. Finally!
Post by: Grog on October 28, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
Very nice!

Did you see anything new and interesting at Dave's?

I checked out the Les Paul Triumph, it looked pretty nice. I noticed this acoustic last time I was there.........


(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/Grog_03/photo_zps6f0a1982.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/Grog_03/media/photo_zps6f0a1982.jpg.html)

I have that logo on my '68 EB-2DC, Gibson used it on this new guitar.

Other than buying a Gibson guitar stool, I was on my best behavior, this time........  ;D