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Title: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: neepheid on July 02, 2013, 04:11:15 AM
Trawling eBay I found something which looks very much like someone took the trouble to convert a Ripper into a G-3.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141008273244

Has this happened much?  It's the first time I've seen it so I thought I'd ask.
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: Dave W on July 02, 2013, 11:44:35 AM
I haven't seen it done before. With Jaydee pickups, I wonder if the conversion was done by John Diggins himself.
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: hollowbody on July 02, 2013, 06:15:50 PM
I've done it for a friend a few years ago.  :mrgreen:


Honestly, it is the best of both worlds. I had a G3 when I started playing. I loved the sound and hated the neck. Now I have a Ripper and love the neck but hate the pickups. Presently I have a pickup set from an SG Bass in it, after trying RD Standard, regular TB+, and Guild single coils in it.

I should have bought a trio of G3 pickups while I had the chance.  :-[
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: Denis on July 03, 2013, 05:42:19 AM
Not too late! I think there are some G-3 pickups on eBay now.
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: amptech on July 03, 2013, 07:08:01 AM
Got a G1, love the pickup (always thought it was a humbucker until reading through the fly guitars info page),
but i have always wondered if the bass would sound better with a glued neck. I can easily slip a slice of
pizza into that neck pocket gap.
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on July 03, 2013, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: amptech on July 03, 2013, 07:08:01 AM
Got a G1, love the pickup (always thought it was a humbucker until reading through the fly guitars info page),
but i have always wondered if the bass would sound better with a glued neck. I can easily slip a slice of
pizza into that neck pocket gap.

Typo above? According to Fly the G1 (Grabber) pup is a humbucker - it's the G3 pups that are single coils.

"The Gibson G3 bass, or Grabber 3 bass, was launched in 1975, as an upgraded Grabber, or G1. The only difference between a Grabber and a G3 is the pickup configuration. The G3 features 3 single coil pickups wired in humbucking configuration, whilst the Grabber, had one 'sliding' humbucker."
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: amptech on July 03, 2013, 12:00:03 PM
Here´s from the Flyguitars site:

´Grabber

Sliding pickup Gibson part number 13691. The single coil pickup of the Gibson Grabber bass was mounted onto a plastic slide, allowing it to be positioned by the neck, by the bridge, or anywhere inbetween. The pickup was designed for a "dark tonality" and was a simple single coil wrapped around an Indox magnet core. Some Gibson price lists incorrectly suggest that this pickup is a humbucker. The design remained unchanged for the 10 years of production, 1973-83. In later years, this pickup was also used on the early eighties Gibson Explorer bass.´

I´m not really sure myself, i always thought it was quite ´crisp´for a humbucker.
I´ve repaired many a pickup in my life, though never examined a grabber pup.

Nice having some grabber contents here, like it!
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: amptech on July 03, 2013, 12:02:32 PM
Forgot to mention:  I noticed that the fly site referred to it as a humbucker in the grabber section,
but look at the parts - pickups section..
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: Granny Gremlin on July 03, 2013, 12:32:35 PM
 Juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuules!
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: Dave W on July 03, 2013, 12:49:02 PM
The Gibson catalogs from 1975, 1978 and 1980 (on Jules' site) all describe it only as a "special design pickup" while the Ripper is described as having two Gibson "super humbucking" pickups. Draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: amptech on July 03, 2013, 01:52:13 PM
Quote from: Dave W on July 03, 2013, 12:49:02 PM
The Gibson catalogs from 1975, 1978 and 1980 (on Jules' site) all describe it only as a "special design pickup" while the Ripper is described as having two Gibson "super humbucking" pickups. Draw your own conclusions.

But the superhumbucking term is just another way of describing the sidewinder, right?

The Grabber pup is too slim for this kind of design, is it not?

Now, who will be the first to melt down a G1 pickup.....
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: Dave W on July 03, 2013, 07:30:07 PM
Quote from: amptech on July 03, 2013, 01:52:13 PM
But the superhumbucking term is just another way of describing the sidewinder, right?

The Grabber pup is too slim for this kind of design, is it not?

Now, who will be the first to melt down a G1 pickup.....

Super humbuckers didn't necessarily refer to sidewinder design. They used that name on certain standard construction guitar humbuckers in the 70s too.

My point was that Gibson did not call the Grabber pickup a humbucker. I don't think it was an oversight because they used the description in at least three catalog years.
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: godofthunder on July 04, 2013, 02:01:54 PM
 Aside from building basses JD does quite a bit of custom work. If I had to guess I would say that that is his work. I suppose I could ask him.
Quote from: Dave W on July 02, 2013, 11:44:35 AM
I haven't seen it done before. With Jaydee pickups, I wonder if the conversion was done by John Diggins himself.
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: EvilLordJuju on July 06, 2013, 04:57:16 AM
I believe the Grabber pickup is single coil - there are several misleading and contradictory bits of Gibson literature that suggest it is a humbucker, and one that categorically states it to be single coil (a late seventies Gibson pickup leaflet). Let me try and find it for you all. And I might put a bid on that Gripper too, if it stays at £350
http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/parts/pickup/ (http://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/parts/pickup/)
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: amptech on July 06, 2013, 07:33:54 AM
What's a Gripper?  ???

confused............
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: Dave W on July 06, 2013, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: amptech on July 06, 2013, 07:33:54 AM
What's a Gripper?  ???

confused............

He's talking about the converted Ripper in the auction.
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: amptech on July 06, 2013, 11:57:01 AM
Sorry, just joking.

I saw that the auction was ended because of an error in the description?
Maybe the seller noticed that it was not an original grabber..
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: neepheid on July 07, 2013, 04:41:00 AM
I never understood why the G-3 continues to be referred to as a Grabber (even today, Gibson call the reissue such) when there's nothing to grab ;)
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: Denis on July 07, 2013, 08:21:48 AM
I like simply referring to my new one as a G-3. Quick and to the point. :)
Title: Re: Ripper converted to a G-3?
Post by: uwe on July 09, 2013, 11:21:51 AM
Wordplay between Grabber and Ripper - an after-market bass combining characteristics of both types. If you want to add a G-3 to the equaction then that makes is a Gripp3r!