Marked down in clearance at Sam Ash. :)
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Congrats Dennis! Looks sharp :thumbsup: What did they have it marked at if I may ask?
Thanks! It was marked down to $849 or so. I tried to leverage them into accepting my 15% Sam Ash coupon card on it but they wouldn't go for it!
I wish everyone of us had the chance to try one of these........
It's a fantastic bass ;D
I agree, Mark. I don't know even how widespread knowledge of this G-3 really is, but it's underrated for sure. It's big, comfortable, the pickups are amazing and the overall tone is fantastic. It's punchy if you like, or smooth and svelte. Definitely worth the money!
Congrats Denis!! I had a feeling you were going to buy one of these.
Enjoy it, Denis!
Wow - very cool - I thought maybe I had missed this a while ago but it looks like it's fresh news! You can rock in the new year with it!
Nicely done. I did a double-take when I saw it behind the counter in the bass dept. Glad it's in good hands.
Quote from: Nokturnal on December 31, 2012, 02:03:23 PM
Congrats Denis!! I had a feeling you were going to buy one of these.
Haha, Andy, how did you know?
Quote from: Denis on January 01, 2013, 08:46:22 AM
Haha, Andy, how did you know?
You just sounded like me when I'm on the verge. You are pretty sure you are going to buy it, you just need that last tiny nudge to push you over the edge. :mrgreen:
someone is deleting non controversial comments containing remarks about gibsonites. :P
Denis has a (not yet quite deep) purple wall at home. :gay: These days anything goes.
Happy you got this sleeping beauty/ugly in Gibson's canon. That wide body Ripper shape is endearingly uncompromising whether you like it or not. I do, it has become a classic (and wasn't really copied by anybody else).
Quote from: nofi on January 01, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
someone is deleting non controversial comments containing remarks about gibsonites. :P
Weird. I didn't find your comment controversial in the least!
Quote from: uwe on January 01, 2013, 02:37:59 PM
Denis has a (not yet quite deep) purple wall at home. :gay: These days anything goes.
Happy you got this sleeping beauty/ugly in Gibson's canon. That wide body Ripper shape is endearingly uncompromising whether you like it or not. I do, it has become a classic (and wasn't really copied by anybody else).
I prefer to call the color "lilac". It's actually the room I just finished for my girlfriend and her crafty projects. She sells things on Etsy and I just couldn't have her taking over the living room AND dining room! During the day the room gets better light and since it was mostly empty it was a natural for the photos.
I find the Ripper/G-3 body very comfortable and my right hand rests nicely on the bridge when using a pick. You'll love yours when you get it, Uwe!
Quote from: nofi on January 01, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
someone is deleting non controversial comments containing remarks about gibsonites. :P
It wasn't me! I don't even know what it was about. Nazi-apologism again?
DAVE...! DAVE...! He used the N word... ;D
Nothing has been deleted from this thread. Nofi's comment is still there near the end of the Damn Sam Ash thread.
duh... :-[
No one is getting any younger here, Nofi! :mrgreen:
Now that I've had this bass a few weeks I have to say I like more and more as the days go by. The pickups are awesome and the bass truly sounds different than any other bass I own. Truthfully, I like the pickups better than those in the NR T-bird although they are totally different.
Honestly, I'm surprised very little has been said about it. Uwe mentioned somewhere he considered the G-3 to be Gibson's secret weapon back in the day and if those old ones sound ANYTHING like the new one, I'd believe it. 100% underrated.
I'm happy to read your opinion of it Denis, I feel the same way. It's just a great sounding/playing bass, especially fingerstyle. Too bad the larger bass buying audience will never even know.
That fat Ripper look turns many people off I guess and elegant it sure ain't, but at least idiosyncratic. The old G-3s were thus that even a Stingray player would have been happy with them. And they came out at a time when the Stingray became successful, but got lost by the wayside. In fairness, when the Stingray came out I thought it looked cooler than any Ripper shape bass too.
I weighed the G-3 this morning. It came in at 10lbs, a hair over a pound more then my new NR. The G-3 hangs well, though.
Quote from: Denis on February 03, 2013, 12:16:33 PM
...........hangs well, though.
Well, nothing like being well hung! ;D :rimshot:
I'll be here all week folks, try the veal............
:toast:
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Haha, in order here's what I have:
'84 Victory - 10.1 lbs
'80 Ripper - 10 lbs
'12 G-3 - 10 lbs
'75 P-bass - 9.7 lbs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0L8lCu1Z4w
Well, that's my order placed for one in honeyburst. I'm buying at distance (as always) so it's been set aside by the shop, deposit's going down on Monday, should have it on Tuesday :)
Awesome! Let us know what you think of it!
Quote from: uwe on January 01, 2013, 02:37:59 PM
Denis has a (not yet quite deep) purple wall at home. :gay: These days anything goes.
Happy you got this sleeping beauty/ugly in Gibson's canon. That wide body Ripper shape is endearingly uncompromising whether you like it or not. I do, it has become a classic (and wasn't really copied by anybody else).
Actually Carvin copied it in the 80's with their LB40-60 series basses. The Koa bodied ones are pretty nice looking. Not sure how good they were though.
Quote from: Denis on February 23, 2013, 07:03:18 AM
Awesome! Let us know what you think of it!
Well, it has arrived. On the plus side, it sounds really good with lashings of deep, meaty bass coming from it. Did a bit of setting up (lowered the action and the pickups). On the not so good side there are a couple of flaws - there's a small blob of finish on the back of the body (which I can probably ignore) and they've managed to screw the bottom strap button in at a rather jaunty angle and tightened it so that it has compressed some of the wood around it. Bit of a rookie mistake, that. I've never managed to attach a strap button squint yet, and I'm no professional.
Is it enough to warrant sending it back? I've got a few days to have a think about it.
I'd see if they'd knock off some $ first if they won't then I'd send it back. Or store credit maybe.
I second the idea of trying to get them to knock some $$ off. I know you shouldn't have to make a repair to a brand new instrument. However, it would be a shame to send it back for something so small.
On mine, same as the one Mark picked up for Uwe, the fret ends could have been smoothed out a little better but it's certainly not enough to warrant me sending it back. I like it too much.
I would definitely ask them to make an adjustment. No excuse for letting it out of the factory like that.
Well, I phoned the shop to make them aware of the issue and they straight away offered to pick up the bass at their expense and replace it with the one other they have left in stock. Can't really argue with that as a first attempt to solve the problem. I'll play along with this - it's not as if I'll be left bassless in the meantime ;) Also we have pretty good distance selling regulations here in the UK so it makes sense for me to use them to my advantage.
If there's a problem with the replacement then we'll see about value adjustments. Or I might just bin the whole escapade. Can't help feeling a bit miffed - this is the first brand new Gibson I've ever bought. Not a stellar start, but surely I can't be hit with two duds in a row? It is a small issue, but even if I got some money off I think it would annoy me. Also I could theoretically kiss any warranty goodbye if I fix it myself (the only fix being attempting to steam out the compressed wood, then filling and redrilling the pilot hole.)
This is what I'm moaning about:
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It maybe doesn't seem like much but I don't expect to find a mistake like that on any bass these days, regardless of brand or cost.
That is inexcusable. Awfully good of the shop to offer to pick it up AND replace it. I doubt you'd find a shop here that would pick the bass up at their expense. That said, go for it and give the new bass a try.
Sloppy workmanship is inexcusable, but...if it sang like THE ONE in my hands, I would keep it.
:thumbsup:
It might have fallen on its butt, looks like it, seen that before. The fin thing is just Gibson being Gibson. ;)
Whenever I have sent a bass back for little thing and got a flawless one that somehow didn't sound as good as the old one. :-\
The last new Gibson bass I bought was an LP Faded about 6 years ago from American Musical. I wasn't thrilled with the sound but would have kept it except for the awful prep and finish work. The front and back were okay but the sides weren't properly sanded and the single cut area wasn't sanded at all. The finish looked like it was applied by a monkey on his first day on the job. Returned it and didn't order a replacement.
My newer Melody Maker guitar has a finish flaw on the back of the neck - a dirt spot that appears to be under the finish -- but it was a special at half the usual street price.
i think i would want to try the other bass first in case its not quite as good...
I'd probably get the blow torch out and refin, after two years hanging on a meat-hook in the shed to mature, but you know me by now... ;D
Quote from: uwe on February 27, 2013, 08:52:07 AM
It might have fallen on its butt, looks like it, seen that before.
Considering these come with a crappy soft bag it wouldn't surprise me. When it's in the bag the whole bass sits on that strap button. I'm real careful about how I put mine down when it's in the bag. Out of the bag it's on a stand.
Quote from: chordzilla on February 27, 2013, 12:44:52 PM
i think i would want to try the other bass first in case its not quite as good...
I hear you, but I don't live in an ideal consumer world with low hanging fruit . I live in Aberdeen which is at least 3 hours away from anywhere which
might stock a Gibson bass. Driving 6 hours just to go try a bass doesn't sound like fun to me. In the UK we have strict distance selling regulations, including the right to send back within 7 days of receipt anything (with a few minor, mostly hygiene or intellectual property related exceptions) you have bought for a full refund as long as it is undamaged/unused.
This one is being replaced because it is faulty. If I'm not happy with the other one, even if it isn't "faulty" then I can still return it within 7 days for a full refund (although I'll probably have to pay postage in this instance).
phew.hope its a keeper then!
Received my replacement G-3 today - oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Horrible hum at rest (isn't the pickup arrangement supposed to be humbucking?), terrible touch buzz on all the pole pieces (even on ones which are switched out of the circuit in positions 1 and 3), the ribbon which surrounds the coils is untidy and rides up over the edge of the bobbin, wax residue on some pole pieces, and I suspect that the bridge pickup is dodgy - when I touch a pole piece you get the buzz and then it suddenly stops with a click, and it makes noise when I wiggle it.
As a test I plugged in my IV - same amp, same leads, same tuner pedal, sat in exactly the same place and guess what? Almost silent at rest.
It's going back, and the shop doesn't have any more so it's money back time and to be honest I don't think I'll take a chance on another G-3 from elsewhere. I'm pretty gutted about this. I don't know who's at fault here (Gibson/distributor/retailer), but ultimately it's a very poor experience for my first new Gibson.
Hmph.
That's too bad. Mine had none of those issues.
Quote from: neepheid on March 05, 2013, 11:30:31 AM
Received my replacement G-3 today - oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Horrible hum at rest (isn't the pickup arrangement supposed to be humbucking?), terrible touch buzz on all the pole pieces (even on ones which are switched out of the circuit in positions 1 and 3), the ribbon which surrounds the coils is untidy and rides up over the edge of the bobbin, wax residue on some pole pieces, and I suspect that the bridge pickup is dodgy - when I touch a pole piece you get the buzz and then it suddenly stops with a click, and it makes noise when I wiggle it.
As a test I plugged in my IV - same amp, same leads, same tuner pedal, sat in exactly the same place and guess what? Almost silent at rest.
It's going back, and the shop doesn't have any more so it's money back time and to be honest I don't think I'll take a chance on another G-3 from elsewhere. I'm pretty gutted about this. I don't know who's at fault here (Gibson/distributor/retailer), but ultimately it's a very poor experience for my first new Gibson.
Hmph.
To quote Rob Halford: "I am Nostradamus!" Unfortunately in this case.
That's too bad. Never should have left the factory that way.
Maybe Lucas Electrical (the Prince of Darkness) is branching out and making pickups for Gibson.
that completely sucks.the shop need to pull finger and get you one that an adult has tested.
Quote from: chordzilla on March 05, 2013, 07:04:46 PM
that completely sucks.the shop need to pull finger and get you one that an adult has tested.
Ach well, I spoke to them this morning and told them of my woes, they're happy to pick it up (again) and just refund me. The guy did say that they had gone over the one that I had returned previously and fixed the issues with it (in addition to the wonky strap button, an earth wire had come off a pot casing - WTF, on a brand new bass? What the hell is going on in Nashville? Or are the couriers playing football with the instruments?) and would I like it, but I refused - the whole incident has left a bad taste in my mouth and I'd rather spend my money on something else now. And because I'm in a big massive cream puff with Gibson right now, it will definitely not be a (new) Gibson.
Henry spent all his QC budget on the PR firm that lobbied Fox News for him.
:mrgreen: No, Obama and Big Government sabotaged those basses.
Quote from: uwe on March 06, 2013, 06:14:21 AM
:mrgreen: No, Obama and Big Government sabotaged those basses.
So much for the "special relationship" between the USA and UK - sabotaging basses bound for the UK? This means war! ;)
I was lucky enough to try my G-3 out in the store before I bought it so I knew what I was getting as far as sound and tone goes. If it had a damaged or poorly installed strap button I would have simply had them knock off $$ or fix it. The feel and sound of the bass sold me right away and a fault that small would not have dissuaded me from taking it.
Quote from: Denis on March 06, 2013, 06:35:14 AM
I was lucky enough to try my G-3 out in the store before I bought it so I knew what I was getting as far as sound and tone goes. If it had a damaged or poorly installed strap button I would have simply had them knock off $$ or fix it. The feel and sound of the bass sold me right away and a fault that small would not have dissuaded me from taking it.
Well, you had the advantage. I do not have that advantage when buying anything that isn't a Fender or a Yamaha, that's just how the shops are up here. I have to order blind and with the blind faith that what I see on the webpage is what I get. This is why the Distance Selling Regulations are utterly invaluable (although they don't apply if it's actually faulty). Because I am at distance, I don't feel comfortable with haggling (cue the accusations that I damaged it myself and am trying to screw some money out of the shop - there's no proof that I didn't after all). It would be different if I was there in person, I could see the damage there, point it out at the time and see what they can offer me.
I didn't really want to have to say this and I'm really glad that you are happy with yours but while I though the sound was pretty good (and meatier/bassier than the original G-3 - understandable given the change in pickup positioning) I found the satin finish to be rather "cheap" feeling/looking and for me neither of the G-3 Tributes I tried oozed, reeked or even had a faint odour of having many (any?) careful man hours being spent on them. The second one was particularly poor with many little annoying problems that simply should not be present at this price point. I don't think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not averse to fixing things if it won't cause me a problem with warranties/customer service later on. I recently picked up a brand new G&L Tribute M-2000 and the only thing that was a bit off was that someone had been a little heavy handed with the glue when glueing in the nut and it had squished up over the face of the nut. I just carefully scraped that away. No problem. Apart from that it had a flawless finish and had no operational issues.
Perhaps it is unfair to put the new G-3 up against a Victory Artist, an RD Artist and an IV, but that's the benchmark in my collection and it fell way short of that in terms of fit and finish. However, I think it's completely fair to expect it to be
at least as good as a G&L Tribute, considering the G-3 is the best part of twice the price. In any case, when I drop a significant sum of money on anything new (never mind a bass) I expect it to be pristine, or else there will be trouble. I don't want to haggle, I don't want hassle. I want the instrument I paid for and I want it to be right and of a quality commensurate with the price point at which it is placed. These two basses fell well short of that and as such has made me very wary of buying any new Gibsons in the near future.
I have never bought a new gibson, but i came close once - i think it was in ´98 and the guitar shop just got in the usual gibsons of that time, but one instrument i just had to try - it was an explorer in a beautiful bronze sparkling finish and mini humbuckers. I picked it up just for the looks (at the time it matched my dark green leather pants just great) but it played so perfect I must have been in the shop for 2 hours, such a delight.. And great sounding. This shop never set up their guitars (or basses) good - or they just didn´t do it. It felt like an old guitar, really - but I´ve never had this experience with
a new gibson before or since. I´ve only seen Thunderbird basses from gibson in this shop, but they are not my cup of T.
When it comes to quality control, I agree - you should get what you pay for - and a brand new gibson should be perfect.
But how was the Grabber recieved when it first came out? The cheap approach, bolt on, crappy bridge etc. must have put off many of those used to gibsons of the sixties. My first bass was a 1975 Grabber, and I do love it - but the whole feel of it is far away from my sixties EB´s. And the oldest (1963) seems to me the best of them.
I always ignored my Grabber´s flaws - but perhaps it really shouldn´t have left the factory either...
I've had one Gibson that was abysmal new: a midnight blue Money, where the fret job had obviously never been completed. But I've also had a new Ric where the bridge pup didn't work (faulty wiring) and a new Fender Jazz where the truss rod wouldn't turn.
Well, that's the pickup finally arranged for Monday. Hopefully followed by a hassle free refund and then a tantalising (probably brief) period of having some bass fund slush ;)
Quote from: uwe on March 08, 2013, 07:06:14 AM
I've had one Gibson that was abysmal new: a midnight blue Money, where the fret job had obviously never been completed. But I've also had a new Ric where the bridge pup didn't work (faulty wiring) and a new Fender Jazz where the truss rod wouldn't turn.
Makes me wonder if people are more likely to accept faults from one manufacturer than another.
A similar case in point (though not 100% identical): a friend went to an industrial design show in Detroit back in the 1990s. He met a guy who worked at the plant where the Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser were built on the same production line by the same people. Chrysler received exponentially more complaints about the Eagle and the Plymouth (both perceived as American built) than the Mitsubishi (perceived as Japanese built).
Reminds me of an urban legend I heard years ago where GMC trucks received better quality control than their Chevy counterparts. :-\
I'd forgotten all about that one.
I've come to expect some sloppiness with Gibson, less than perfect fins, fret ends stickling out after short exposure to German climate. I can live with that, also with a defunct pup once in a while. The bad fret job on the Money was a howler as was the frozen Fender truss rod. My Grabber II's truss rod ain't great either, the bell was so snug in the cavity, I had to route that considerably deeper plus use washers under the bell for sufficient pull. Only a matter of time until it will give me real trouble, even though the Grabber II sounds majestic.
Quote from: gearHed289 on March 08, 2013, 08:49:00 AM
Reminds me of an urban legend I heard years ago where GMC trucks received better quality control than their Chevy counterparts. :-\
No kidding. When I sold Chevy trucks between 1978-80, occasionally we'd get one in with GMC emblems on the cab...had to change them out.
Anyone who thinks a GMC is anything but a Chevy with different trim is fooling themselves, and has been for more than 30 years.
I've come to expect some sloppiness with Gibson, less than perfect fins, fret ends stickling out after short exposure to German climate. I can live with that, also with a defunct pup once in a while. The bad fret job on the Money was a howler as was the frozen Fender truss rod. My Grabber II's truss rod ain't great either, the bell was so snug in the cavity, I had to route that considerably deeper plus use washers under the bell for sufficient pull. Only a matter of time until it will give me real trouble, even though the Grabber II sounds majestic.
Ground hog day was a while ago Uwe ;)
Quote from: Denis on December 31, 2012, 11:45:14 AM
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Now that I've had this a few months I have to say that has made it into my top 5 favorite basses. I absolutely love this thing. :)
With sadness I've despatched Uwe's G-3 today, (yes, it's been with me awhile, school schedule, taking care of Miss Peacock and a rather unexpected operation on my foot have delayed it's departure.) and even tho I'm devoutly a Thunderbird player I have to say again what a really great bass this is.
Play it in excellent health Uwe, many thanks for the extended test drive!
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I had a bass with you?! ????
Thanks as always for breaking it in and what is that with your foot, I told you to wear sensible shoes at your age!
Quote from: uwe on March 29, 2013, 01:43:54 PM
I had a bass with you?! ????
Thanks as always for breaking it in and what is that with your foot, I told you to wear sensible shoes at your age!
I was almost hoping you'd forget that it was here visiting me ;)
Re the foot, I had to have the entire nail and a bit of flesh removed from my right big toe - It was extremely unpleasant, for awhile it looked rather like a skinned rabbit's head.
Thanks again, that's one very cool bass :)
Quote from: TBird1958 on March 29, 2013, 02:32:10 PM.........
Re the foot, I had to have the entire nail and a bit of flesh removed from my right big toe - It was extremely unpleasant, for awhile it looked rather like a skinned rabbit's head..................
OUCH!!!!! Holy crap - nothing much hurts more than that! I hope they gave you good meds ;D
I guess no open toe pumps for the spring huh ;)
Quote from: Lightyear on March 29, 2013, 04:57:37 PM
OUCH!!!!! Holy crap - nothing much hurts more than that! I hope they gave you good meds ;D
I guess no open toe pumps for the spring huh ;)
My Doc (ex Navy guy whose last name is Sargent) prescribed a single Valium just so I could get in the door and deal with him administering the local painkiller...........9 injections around the toe.
No open toe shoes this Spring :sad:
I damaged my toe nail once lifting something heavy around on a beach and of course the toe nail died off. It took ages to regrow, but it regrew properly (looked pretty sick for a while) and after the initial phase I had no pain even where the now unprotected nailbed (is that the American term too for the skin underneath the nail?) was. People would say: "That must hurt!" and I'd say "Not anymore, it don't!"
In truth, Mark, those peep toe platforms never looked that cool on you anyway!
Better stay away from the pointy-toed ones, too....sorry to hear about that!!
I was reading about the control setup ... from gibson.com:
"simple array of a three-way switch and master volume and tone controls assures that these units—with a reverse-wound, reverse-polarity middle pickup—offer hum-canceling performance in all positions. The "switch up" position gives you the neck and middle pickups for a rich, woody tone. The middle position taps all three pickups for a round, funky tone. And with the switch down, the bridge and middle pickups offer a punchy, snappy sound. "
That sounds fine... just wondered, anybody played around with different switches? There's at least 4 other combinations they don't give you that way.
What was on the original G3?
It was a no frills bass, front two pups, back two pups or all three. A modification to have back and front, but not middle was quite popular, gave it a more scooped Jazz Bassy sound. Single pup mode was never intended due to necessitiy of hum cancellation, two of the single coils had to always work.
I'm considering selling my red BaCH TH-2 to get another G-3.
It hath arrived, Mark, danke, looks nice from what I saw taking it out of the bag (thank God not another case!).
Et les Lülls arrive aussi, merci.
Quote from: uwe on April 16, 2013, 07:48:07 AM
It hath arrived, Mark, danke, looks nice from what I saw taking it out of the bag (thank God not another case!).
Et les Lülls arrive aussi, merci.
I can't thank you enough for the pleasure of playing that bass - Sit down and play it fingerstyle, it's most refreshing. I'll await your thoughts re the Lulls.
Looking forward to hearing what you think of it, Uwe.
It takes ages to get rid of that protective foil on it - you have to dismantle both the pg and the pups to do it! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Other than that ... I only restrung it this morning with EB Cobalt strings and played a little with it over a practice amp, no real set up yet. Much like the Grabber II and the Ripper II, this thing emulates the original closely in sound and feel. Due to the set neck it feels a little more substantial/less cheap, that and the sturdier bridge also account for more sustain and less snap than a seventies G-3. It's a bit deeper in sound, yet the bass frequencies are more focused than with the original whose low bass output could be a little sloppy.
First impression: Well done Gibson! Kind of like as if the original G-3 had never been deleted and had progressed to this over the decades.
Most of my time with it I used a 4x10 and my 400 watt GK, that bass really has some big balls, very good tone, I liked the stock strings a lot, I definately left some DNA on that bass!
I have two sets of Cobalts lying around. Can you tell something about your experiences, Uwe?
Quote from: TBird1958 on April 17, 2013, 10:26:39 AM
Most of my time with it I used a 4x10 and my 400 watt GK, that bass really has some bigs balls, very good tone, I liked the stock strings a lot, I definately left some DNA on that bass!
They still had plenty of life in them! I just replaced them because I had to take them off to be able to get to the entrails under the pick guard because I had to dismantle the pups to get rid of the last remnants of that friggin' foil! (Clean soldering job by the way.) And with the strings off, I thought I might just as well put on new ones, I have too many string packages gathering dust as is.
Quote from: Chris P. on April 17, 2013, 10:30:33 AM
I have two sets of Cobalts lying around. Can you tell something about your experiences, Uwe?
I found the G string chafed after wearing it for a day or two unlubed!
:mrgreen:
Other than that they are indeed not smooth surface strings, but offer incredibly rich mids, bit like Rotos with mids. My Lee Sklar Sig always sounded lackluster and has benefitted incredibly from these strings, it now has a real voice now. On a very mid-rich bass they might even be a bit much.
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2013, 11:07:30 AM
I found the G string chafed after wearing it for a day or two unlubed!
:mrgreen:
I think you're wearing it wrong! ;)
You had given no further instructions!
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2013, 01:04:42 PM
You had given no further instructions!
You got me there, Herr Moderator! I sometimes forget your choosen profession, it doesn't always allow you to proceed ;)
Don't argue with a man who collects Mr Blackmore's castaways...
I called Gibson today and then TKL, who makes their cases. No cases for the G-3 are available. Turns out TKL only made enough cases for the Grabber IIs. Of course TKL will make me one for $450... :P
The main reason I want a case is because of the enormous headstock and antler-sized tuners, but the round bass sits perfectly on the rear strap button when sitting in the gig bag, which makes me nervous.
@Denis: The Hiscox STD-EBP Case should do the job for you for a pleasing price. It fits the Ripper so it would fit the G-3.
Best Ragards from Germany
Thanks Uwe!
Quote from: Denis on April 17, 2013, 06:32:10 PM
I called Gibson today and then TKL, who makes their cases. No cases for the G-3 are available. Turns out TKL only made enough cases for the Grabber IIs. Of course TKL will make me one for $450... :P
The main reason I want a case is because of the enormous headstock and antler-sized tuners, but the round bass sits perfectly on the rear strap button when sitting in the gig bag, which makes me nervous.
Denis, if I may add, errmm ..., an, looking for the word here ...,
appendix to all this: I can dig out one of my old Grabber cases and see whether the newie G-3 fits in it and then proceed to send it over the pond. Ja?
Heh, "appendix". ;D
That certainly would be worth trying, Uwe, now that you have the new G-3 on hand to try out!
My gut says that the new G-3 headstock is WAY larger than the '70s models, especially with the tuners poking out, and won't fit in the old Grabber cases. I think it's the same headstock/neck as used on the new Flying V basses.
Let me know what you discover and we'll maybe figure something out.
Thanks!
I'll revert.
Seen on Grahm Norton show with the band Paramore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRWrDNo0uqE
Just watched that vid on the fat-bottomed girls thread. Definitely a new one, but it looks almost red, or either the burst is very dark. Looks great!
Re the music: I like the quirky 80ies New Wave vibe it has and the singer is cute, but can anybody tell me why they need two additional guitarists bar-chording throughout (plus the bassist and the lead guitarist playing the riff) to get that sound? :mrgreen:
Re the bass: Sorry, Denis, definitely an old (albeit late) one. The giveaways are at 0:24/25 of the vid where you see a bolt-on neck/body juncture, not a set neck one, and at 1:36 where you don't see the holy immaculate three point, but the original G-3 bridge or a replacement for it. As well as visible throughout: a three-ply pg the modern ones don't feature.
Scientific proof here:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_1hwSkVh9ZM/UARbPB2ZPOI/AAAAAAAAA3Y/kOHclI7HPgk/w497-h373/205336_10150197364729963_2000781739_n.jpg)
What threw you off, Denis, was probably the ebony fretboard, but the final run of Grabbers and G-3s that came out in the early eighties had ebony boards, sometimes even three-piece maple necks and relatively often that CAR color en vogue at the time (I own one of those).
I stand corrected! What threw me off was the black headstock, which looked much more similar to the new G-3s than the original ones.
They rocked...I am going to suggest that for a new tune for the band
Played all three at the last rehearsal (just keyboards, a drum machine and me). My 77 maple board G-3, my 1982 final run CAR ebony board with pup combination mod (front and back, but no middle in one setting) and the 2012 newie.
- When it comes to reckless snappiness on the brink of sounding trashy, the 77 maple board wins out.
- The 82 is not quite as hilariously clamoring for attention, but still quite a bit in a more grown-up way.
- The 2012 has none of that "look at me, I'm a bass and I want to be heard too"-first impression, but once you play it a while you realize that is has sublow frequencies the other two can't approach. What they have to offer more is low mids which makes them sound more raucous, the 2012 is more scooped in that department and that gives it a touch of WAL/boutique bass. Its highs are also more hifi/lisssping presssence, but not sterile. Stingray and "angry piano" P Bass fans should be in ecstasy at their first listen. It's amazing what they can do without a 9 volt battery these days. :mrgreen:
2012 has better upper register sustain, but the 77 and 82 are no slouches in that department either.
PS: Just bought the new Paramore CD - really liked what I heard in the context of this thread.
That Paramore track on Norton sounded like something from an eastern European Eurovision entry.
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That song is kind of a departure for them. They typically do more hard rock type of songs.
Most of their music is like this. I enjoy them. Hayley Williams has a great set of pipes. She can really sing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u79Noy7duok
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/Musicians/992773_10151428052850718_1689620732_n_zps4e0d1a2b.jpg)
Looks nice in CAR
I bought their album. It has been torn to bits in the serious rock press as wannabe rock for American Idol fans, but I like it. They have an ear for a hook or two and she sings nicely indeed. Lyrically it's all angsty, but then rock lyrics often are. The words are not inane.