The Last Bass Outpost
Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: Dave W on October 24, 2012, 09:35:36 AM
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Nobody's going to confuse your over-the-hill band with the Twisted Sister Food Truck (http://www.kare11.com/news/article/995743/396/Whats-in-a-name-A-lot-for-Twister-Sister-and-food-truck). :rolleyes:
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Deplorable. I thought Herr Snider knew better than to make a schmok out of himself.
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Wait...you were expecting different from these fools?
Guess I'm lucky - I grew up within their "touring" region and got wise to them (and their mediocrity) before they became MTV video regulars.
Bowling Alley entertainment at best, and they've never brought anything tangible to the table...especially after Dee opens his pie-hole to speak.
You can't cover up stupid with make-up...but they tried.
Dee's the one person who actually made Tipper Gore look like SHE had a clue.
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:popcorn:
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Stupid name for a food truck anyway. They should drop the sister and call it "The Twisted House of Hunger".
No, wait. That name is mine and if anyone tries to use it I will sue them big time.
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I don't think Snider is brainless, heavy-handed as TS' music always was. I saw them on the Come Out And Play tour, I was entertained, let's put it that way. It was so OTT, it made Kiss look introvert and muso-like.
But this is bad enough Lil Lars of you know who could have come up with it. For a band that looked like a bunch of truckers dressing up as the New York Dolls and whose music sounded like dumbed down Kiss, TS should perhaps not be so overtly aggressive in asserting their alleged IP.
Come to think of it, if that food truck had captioned itself "Food of Thunder - Hotter than HEll!", then good old Gene would have probably offered them a franchise agreement, but not hit them over the head with a cease and desist.
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Twisted Schiesser (or something soundalike) House of Hunger
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If Dee had been cool, he would have offered the food guys a new paintjob for their truck showing the link to TS' website. That is called advertising.
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If Dee had been cool, he would have offered the food guys a new paintjob for their truck showing the link to TS' website. That is called advertising.
That would be a class act, thereby nullifying any chance of these clowns actually doing anything like that.
They were nothing like the NY Dolls, who brought the attitude and style along with something raw to the table.
These guys were schnooks, who may have shopped at the same lingerie counter as the Dolls, but that's where any similarity ended.
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Having seen both bands I can only say that TS are ham-fisted and the Dolls ballet dancers.
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Having seen both bands I can only say that TS are ham-fisted and the Dolls ballet dancers.
That works.
Having seen both bands, the Dolls were genuine and you got a sense that they were trying like hell to drive something home.
There was realness to that band. They made mistakes and miscues on stage and got through it all - sort of controlled chaos.
I liked them - they had cool about them...there wasn't much cooler than Killer Kane - he looked sinister...and as a youngster, I was scared of him.
TS always seemed like they felt they were entitled to be your stage and they tried to show just how "New York" they were.
They were/are as phony as the day is long in my book, and they were not well liked in that area, regardless of what Dee will tell you.
The parking lots were logjams during their shows. Lots of smoking, drinking and fistfights outside of a TS show. The Parking Lot was the place to be.
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Remember, Dee Snider, Sarah Jessica Parker and Mr. Ed have never been seen in the same room at the same time.
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i saw the dolls a couple times, way better live than recorded. uwe you must have been in grammer school back then.
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I saw the Dolls (or Johansen and Sylvain plus others) last year or the year before! For the first time, but then I don't believe they ever toured Germany before - by the time they made waves here as a pre-punk phenomenon Maclaren had already mismanaged them to death. They did have a TV appearance in 1973 here though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJRfx-19U84
which went pretty much over everybody's heads - in the heyday of prog the Dolls didn't quite fit in and their image was too intimidating for them to be glam teeniebopper fodder.
And I saw Johansen in his Buster Pointdexter guise in the late eighties in New York. That was good fun, even the lawyer jokes. (I wasn't one yet, but I had just proudly bought a Kubicki Factor at Sam Ash, it was my main bass for the next 10 years and I still have it and play it sometimes!)
I bought "In too much too soon" out of the cut-out bargain bin in 1976 I believe. I liked Babylon, but Stranded in the Jungle convinced me that I had to buy the album. It was probably one of a dozen that sold in Germany! Still prefer it to the first one which Rundgren produced rather flat. I have all their reunion albums - even the new live one. I don't think the Dolls reinvented rock'n'roll, but I'm always entertained by them. And Johansen has real charm and wit.
I have some of the Johnny Thunders stuff too and understand the junkie image appeal, but his voice just isn't as strong as Johansen's and the material had ups and downs to put it mildly. Makes the New York Dolls seem consistent in comparison!
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the original dolls were very loud and kinda sloppy, but in a good way. they came to atlanta twice in 1974. once as openers for mott the hoople and the other as headliner.
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"Stranded" instantly brings me back to my childhood. We used to listen to those albums and stare at the covers for hours on end.
There was something wildly exciting about their approach to that song - the tempo/pitch changes and the overall feel made me want to play an instrument - any instrument.
I played tennis-racket back then and was damn good at it.
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these days johansen seems to be working his way through the alan lomax/harry smith song books. i have seen these reunion concets on tv and they don't even come close to the "real" dolls. too bad.
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The story has been clarified a bit. The cease-and-desist letter came from J.J. French and his attorney. Dee Snider was apparently criticized on Twitter, he says he has nothing to do with it, it's management. There are five other companies in the US and one in Serbia who have gotten letters. And the food truck owners plan to fight it.
Food Truck To Twisted Sister: ‘We’re Not Gonna Take It’ (http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/10/25/food-truck-to-twisted-sister-were-not-gonna-take-it/)
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The story has been clarified a bit. The cease-and-desist letter came from J.J. French and his attorney. Dee Snider was apparently criticized on Twitter, he says he has nothing to do with it, it's management. There are five other companies in the US and one in Serbia who have gotten letters. And the food truck owners plan to fight it.
Food Truck To Twisted Sister: ‘We’re Not Gonna Take It’ (http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/10/25/food-truck-to-twisted-sister-were-not-gonna-take-it/)
Dee Snider also said he had nothing to do with their lousy music...
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I spent a fair amount of evenings watching TS as a (mostly) cover band back in the late 70s and early 80s. They were always entertaining, even if it was largely about Dee singling out some mirror star from a less successful band standing in the back of the club with his arms folded, trying to be too cool for the room - and berating them until they either participated or left. They were loud, boisterous and literally demanded that you join the party. There were bands that were better-looking, more polished, superior musicians or whatever, but I don't think I ever saw one that worked as hard. Bottom line is that TS was around at the right time with the right gimmick to catch the brass ring, if even for a short period.
Yeah, the venues were tough. Parking lots in most of the bigger clubs were ripe for violent confrontations - and you didn't have to be actually involved to suffer damage. I've seen car windshields smashed, knives pulled, and in one case an ear bitten off by a guy who had just been hit in the head with a bat THREE times. Only one of those incidents came at a Twisted Sister show. ;D
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Dee Snider also said he had nothing to do with their lousy music...
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That comment about them working the audience very hard is apt, they indeed did.
But the music sometimes even let Kiss appear artsy and The Dictators (from where Mark "Animal" Mendoza came) like the second coming of The Beatles.
Snider has done better music with Bernie Tormé in the Widowmaker (not the seventies band)/Desperado project, but seems to have resigned to his fate of having to front TS forever.