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Title: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on October 14, 2012, 01:43:54 PM
Started with a Warmoth 8 string neck which was drilled for 8 mini bass tuners, decided it needed to be restyled.  I have 3 Korean 8 strings, I like this headstock, nice and compact.  I plugged the holes in the Warmoth and transferred the Robelli headstock holes to it.  The Warmoth neck is super chunky, even for me.  1 3/4" wide at the nut.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010752.jpg)

Then drilled them out
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010754.jpg)

Veneered the headstock and started playing around with new shape.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010782.jpg)

I use an out of production 4" x 24" Porter Cable 12 amp belt sander to do body contouring

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010760.jpg)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010767.jpg)

What bridge to use?

Korean 8 string, same as used by Hamer on their import 12ers.  I was going to send it to Steve to have him machine it down to fit my standard bridge carrier but it still wouldn't be adjustable for individual string heights.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010831.jpg)

...so then I saw this ABM that looked to fill the bill for adjustability and ordered one from Allparts.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/BB-0338-010.jpg)
The problem with it is that it is TOO WIDE.

...so Schaller 8 string it is.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010929.jpg)

I dropped a single pickup to get a feel for the 8 string thing.  It sounds great.  The Warmoth neck is perfectly flat and the action is super low.  Next up is to shave the neck, finalize the headstock shape and decide on the finish.  I've mostly been enjoying playing it for the last few weeks.  Pretty sure I'm going to wire it stereo.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010922.jpg)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010926.jpg)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/NR 82 Build
Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 14, 2012, 02:30:42 PM
NICE.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on October 14, 2012, 03:07:43 PM
Thanks, Baz!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Highlander on October 14, 2012, 03:24:12 PM
What advantage (perceived) would you get from running in stereo...?

I split mine on an XLR so I can run a stereo or mono lead but haven't bothered with the stereo in more years thank I care to remember...
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: drbassman on October 14, 2012, 03:40:16 PM
Looks nice Carlo. good mods on the neck.  Gonna have to try one of those someday.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on October 14, 2012, 03:45:25 PM
Quote from: HERBIE on October 14, 2012, 03:24:12 PM
What advantage (perceived) would you get from running in stereo...?

I split mine on an XLR so I can run a stereo or mono lead but haven't bothered with the stereo in more years thank I care to remember...

Getting the bridge and neck pups into separate amps should allow more flexibility in tone shaping.  I've noticed a big difference in the one pup just by using the tone pot.  Seems worth a shot using a stack pot for each pup.

Quote from: drbassman on October 14, 2012, 03:40:16 PM
Looks nice Carlo. good mods on the neck.  Gonna have to try one of those someday.

Thanks, Bill.  I think I'm going to try one of their 5 string paddle head necks for the next one.  Easier to mod and lighter.  Pretty sure it will take the extra load, Warmoths are really beefy.  Plus the neck heel profile is the same as a 4 string Fender so I can use my standard neck pocket.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Highlander on October 14, 2012, 04:05:41 PM
I went for a "clean, straight out" option on the PC by bypassing all the pots and straight to the XLR - if you are considering a pro player and splitting the sound, the player will have to rely on what goes to the desk and what goes out from there - the soundman controls everything when you are at that level...
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on October 14, 2012, 04:30:27 PM
Quote from: HERBIE on October 14, 2012, 04:05:41 PM
I went for a "clean, straight out" option on the PC by bypassing all the pots and straight to the XLR - if you are considering a pro player and splitting the sound, the player will have to rely on what goes to the desk and what goes out from there - the soundman controls everything when you are at that level...

Makes sense, but it seems to me in a 3 piece situation (the only one I care to think about with an 8er) there should be enough inputs to assign an extra one to the bass, either mic or DI.  As far as the soundman, you're always at his mercy.  But at some level you have your own.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/NR 82 Build
Post by: Shark on October 15, 2012, 02:45:47 AM
Quote from: Baz Cooper on October 14, 2012, 02:30:42 PM
NICE.

+1. Cool creation!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on October 15, 2012, 05:52:01 AM
  Looks Great !
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: nofi on October 15, 2012, 06:24:16 AM
i think the headstock length is perfect as is. although that would leave a lot of unused wood at the end.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: gearHed289 on October 15, 2012, 08:36:04 AM
Cool project. Good plan to shave the neck. I had a Warmoth 8 for a while and didn't like it very much. It was beautiful, but too chunky, even for my spider fingers. And the steel rods they inlay under the fingerboard make them heavy. Headstock reduction - looks good!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on October 15, 2012, 09:03:25 AM
I think you should angle the headstock cut in the opposite direction and make it a modified version of your normal headstock, point and all. You'll have to pitch your logo at a downward sloping angle, but I think it would really make it stand out. Just about every 8 or 12'er has some form of paddle headstock, like any artistry in the design had to be sacrificed to the additional strings. Especially since it's a 'Bird, give it a "head."
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on October 15, 2012, 10:16:41 AM
Quote from: gearHed289 on October 15, 2012, 08:36:04 AM
Cool project. Good plan to shave the neck. I had a Warmoth 8 for a while and didn't like it very much. It was beautiful, but too chunky, even for my spider fingers. And the steel rods they inlay under the fingerboard make them heavy. Headstock reduction - looks good!

The Warmoth fretboards and headstocks are also thicker than they need to be.  Makes a very stable neck but too heavy.  

Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on October 15, 2012, 09:03:25 AM
I think you should angle the headstock cut in the opposite direction and make it a modified version of your normal headstock, point and all. You'll have to pitch your logo at a downward sloping angle, but I think it would really make it stand out. Just about every 8 or 12'er has some form of paddle headstock, like any artistry in the design had to be sacrificed to the additional strings. Especially since it's a 'Bird, give it a "head."

I've played around with that, it makes sense.  That's why I haven't done any trimming yet.  Have to give it some more thought, maybe a 5+3 headstock.

Thanks for the encouragement, guys.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: patman on October 15, 2012, 04:39:14 PM
maybe have the headstock "echo" the body slant?
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on October 18, 2012, 02:47:23 PM
 In general for a 4 banger I find Warmoth necks to stiff but for a 8 string I bet they would be perfect.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on October 18, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: godofthunder on October 18, 2012, 02:47:23 PM
In general for a 4 banger I find Warmoth necks to stiff but for a 8 string I bet they would be perfect.

The Warmoth necks are way overbuilt IMO.  I'm gonna give one of their 4 string angled, undrilled paddle heads a try.  Scarfed joint, 1/4" fretboard, thick headstock and the 2 stiffening rods should hold 8 strings.  Width is 1-11/16" at the nut, 1/16" narrower than my other Eighters.

That's AFTER I finish your NR, Scott! ;D
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: maxschrek on October 18, 2012, 06:09:11 PM
Quote from: dadagoboi on October 18, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
The Warmoth necks are way overbuilt IMO.  I'm gonna give one of their 4 string angled, undrilled paddle heads a try.  Scarfed joint, 1/4" fretboard, thick headstock and the 2 stiffening rods should hold 8 strings.  Width is 1-11/16" at the nut, 1/16" narrower than my other Eighters.

That's AFTER I finish your NR, Scott! ;D

I have one of those on hand for a project and I can assure you that it will totally support the tension of an 8 string.
Built like a tank.

Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: gearHed289 on October 19, 2012, 09:13:04 AM
Come to think of it, they build their 8 string necks in what they call the "fat back" design. A 4 string, P profile neck with paddle headstock should be just right.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on October 19, 2012, 10:58:53 AM
Quote from: gearHed289 on October 19, 2012, 09:13:04 AM
Come to think of it, they build their 8 string necks in what they call the "fat back" design. A 4 string, P profile neck with paddle headstock should be just right.

Plus a tighter radius fretboard will help for playing chords.

Here's  my 2 Korean Eighters, the Robelli sounds better.  It has single small trussrod 1 piece neck and handles 8 strings no problem.  The Dean Edge has a double trussrod 3 piece neck.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1010999.jpg)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on October 19, 2012, 02:13:45 PM
 For a budget 8 string I have heard nothing but good things about the Robelli.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on October 19, 2012, 03:58:49 PM
Quote from: godofthunder on October 19, 2012, 02:13:45 PM
For a budget 8 string I have heard nothing but good things about the Robelli.

They go for $200-300 on Ebay.  Fit and finish are excellent.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on October 21, 2012, 04:29:34 PM
 I can't wait!
Quote from: dadagoboi on October 18, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
The Warmoth necks are way overbuilt IMO.  I'm gonna give one of their 4 string angled, undrilled paddle heads a try.  Scarfed joint, 1/4" fretboard, thick headstock and the 2 stiffening rods should hold 8 strings.  Width is 1-11/16" at the nut, 1/16" narrower than my other Eighters.

That's AFTER I finish your NR, Scott! ;D
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on October 21, 2012, 04:43:14 PM
Weather has been very cooperative the last few days, fairly cool and dry.  I'm finishing up a REV42 and a JAEbird.  Should have your NR41 ready for paint first week of November.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on December 12, 2012, 06:50:01 AM
Since I'll be keeping this bass I decided to use the remaining body frrom the RNR project...this is the Non Reverse one that now lives near Buffalo, NY.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/RNR/P1010695.jpg)

This is the Reverse one, made simply by flipping the blank.  Blue tape shows new perimeter.  'Dutchman' will fill neck pup hole
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/P1020413-001.jpg)

Sanding inside curves on a prototype can be a real PITA.  Here a 3/4 inch forstner hole makes it much easier.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/P1020428-001.jpg)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/P1020443.jpg)

Shaving neck starts with a surform type rasp, then sandpaper from 60 grit on up.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/P1020408.jpg)

Rear of headstock prepared for veneer.  Even though I used backing when drilling the new holes there was some tearout.  This gray epoxy "jelly roll" has hardener on the inside and resin outside.  Slice off a piece, knead it and you have a "JB weld" type, quick setting, harder than bondo material that dries very quickly and can be easily shaped.  Great stuff! No mess and no waste.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/P1020409.jpg)

Taper ream and rat tail/half round files remove and clean up veneer.  I use Titebond with a caul and a few clamps.  After a half hour or so it's ready to be unclamped and worked.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/P1020412.jpg)

3/16" hole for inside radius.  That was one giant headstock!
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/P1020423.jpg)

Showing how predrilled hole simplifies the process.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/P1020426.jpg)

Is it a bird? Is it a fish? It's a headstock...
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/P1020444.jpg)

Holes to fill and contours to smooth, upper fret access is OK for an Eighter.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020431-001.jpg)




Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on December 12, 2012, 07:53:35 AM
  Hmmmmmmmm might be a 8 string in my future ;)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: gearHed289 on December 12, 2012, 09:36:18 AM
Looking good man! As usual... I'm starting to use my Ric 8 string some more now.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on December 12, 2012, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: gearHed289 on December 12, 2012, 09:36:18 AM
Looking good man! As usual... I'm starting to use my Ric 8 string some more now.

Thanks!  They sure are fun to play in a trio.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on December 19, 2012, 09:54:28 AM
Filled unnecessary holes with combination of dowels, glue, epoxy putty and 2 part epoxy resin.  Then coat of auto lacquer spot putty.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020446_zps357ca059.jpg)

The transition from the heel of the neck to the body was a little bulky, here it is smoothed out.  You can get an idea what the heel looked like from the neck shaving pic in the last post
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020449_zps06d34a49.jpg)

Putty sanded off, bass assembled and set up.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020467_zpsa27b6103.jpg)

Stack pot with shaved knobs, tone is from a stack set, top is a regular knob. About 1/16" height removed from T, 1/8" from V.  Electrosocket jack holder.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020464_zpse2f29245.jpg)

Ready to rouse the neighbors.  I'm thinking Pelham or Lake Placid Blue for color.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020466_zps1a9e8ab9.jpg)


Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: exiledarchangel on December 19, 2012, 11:45:38 AM
I can't shout "pelham" loud enough! ;)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Rob on December 19, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
Wow Carlo you have our mojo happening here. 
I have liked all of your work I've seen but some things like the neck transition are so sublime it is like you have jumped a class.
Congrats!
Rob Francis
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on December 19, 2012, 12:57:31 PM
Quote from: Rob on December 19, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
Wow Carlo you have our mojo happening here. 
I have liked all of your work I've seen but some things like the neck transition are so sublime it is like you have jumped a class.
Congrats!
Rob Francis

Thanks, Rob!  After painting the neck on Scott's NR I realized it would have looked better with a smoothed neck heel but it was too late.  Thinning out the body at the heel was a calculated risk, all the tension is at the heel edge.  The neck screws are three different lengths to allow for the different thicknesses, it feels rock solid.  It's been fun making improvements from bass to bass.  The body shape wasn't working at all for me until the final trimming.  Now I like it a lot.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/NR%202012/P1020352_zps9495be3b.jpg)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on December 19, 2012, 03:40:10 PM
  I am very happy with the neck heel profile, feels great to me, I'm glad you didn't shave it down.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 19, 2013, 01:10:16 PM
Here's what passes for my spraybooth setup.  The support is a guitar stand with a 2x4 attached to the short leg to make it vertical.  1/2" emt with connector attached is held in the stand by the adjusting screw.  Another piece of EMT is attached to the body.  It sits in the connector and allows easy (and cheap) rotation.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020633_zps9b0d1f4f.jpg)

Rustoleum "Racing Green Metallic" removed from the rattlecan and sprayed with a gun, ready for a second topcoat of Mohawk Piano Lacquer.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020634_zps301e44c8.jpg)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020640_zpsc8973fbf.jpg)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: chromium on January 19, 2013, 03:18:26 PM
Way to reuse what you have for the booth.  Doesn't have to be fancy to do a good job!

That's coming along nicely... love the color. 

Good looking brass(?) nut on that too.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 19, 2013, 05:06:51 PM
Quote from: chromium on January 19, 2013, 03:18:26 PM
Way to reuse what you have for the booth.  Doesn't have to be fancy to do a good job!

That's coming along nicely... love the color. 

Good looking brass(?) nut on that too.

Thanks!  It's not quite the 24 foot Devilbiss booth with 42" fan I used to have but it does what I need, namely contain overspray.  The brass nut is from a Korean Rogue 8er.  Similar ones are on my Robelli and Dean.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Nocturnal on January 19, 2013, 10:18:42 PM
Looks great!! Just like all of your builds  ;D
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on January 20, 2013, 06:02:58 AM
Wicked cool! That is pretty much what my spray booth is going top be, sod the neighbors.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 20, 2013, 08:04:21 AM
Quote from: godofthunder on January 20, 2013, 06:02:58 AM
Wicked cool! That is pretty much what my spray booth id going top be, sod the neighbors.

I ran into my next door neighbor, the only one I talk to (maybe 8 times in 5 years) last Sunday morning in Walmart while food shopping.  He told me the the neighbor across the street called the cops on him for playing bass one day.  Of course it wasn't him, it was me, but he didn't rat me out.  He said , "I can hear your spray gun every once in a while."  

You can probably get away with quite a bit if you choose your time right and don't use a fan, most likely you'll be spraying paint for no more than 30 minutes a day in 10 minute sessions and probably no more than a few times a month.  Around here it's not a problem, the other day was cloudy with no wind or bugs so I sprayed outside.

IMO there's usually a solution if you really want to do something.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Pilgrim on January 20, 2013, 01:39:35 PM
I can hear your spray gun???

What the hell is he doing, learning on the garage wall with a water glass pressed  to his ear???
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: nofi on January 20, 2013, 01:49:00 PM
carlo. i want to know how a guy from brooklyn winds up in small southern towns that seem picked at random.
;D

i've lived in the south almost 50 years yet on some quiet nights i can hear new york calling me home. ;)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 20, 2013, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: Pilgrim on January 20, 2013, 01:39:35 PM
I can hear your spray gun???

What the hell is he doing, learning on the garage wall with a water glass pressed  to his ear???

I thought that was strange also.  After thinking about it I realized he meant the compressor.

Quote from: nofi on January 20, 2013, 01:49:00 PM
carlo. i want to know how a guy from brooklyn winds up in small southern towns that seem picked at random.
;D

I moved to S. Florida from NY when I was 10.  Moved to Gainesville to attend UF in '64 and stayed 10 years.  After California, Louisiana (I met my wife in Hollywood, CA, she's from Natchitoches, we moved there in '89 and got divorced in 98), North Carolina and Asia I realized living in the South, especially this part of Florida is cheap and relatively civilized, especially compared to northern Louisiana.  Gainesville was always an oasis in the middle of RedNeckdom, venturing out of it in the mid 60s with long hair meant you might run into trouble.  Still is fairly progressive.  UF Shands Hospital is a great Research medical industrial complex.  The sports teams win more often than not.

I live 30 miles away, here it's God, Guns and the GOP (90% in the last election, I keep my head down).  It's about as close as I want to come to no government interference.  No state income tax, almost no real estate taxes.  Doesn't appear to be any code enforcement,  EPA, decent schools, real libraries, etc.  Perfect place for an anarchist.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Pilgrim on January 20, 2013, 04:01:19 PM
Quote from: dadagoboi on January 20, 2013, 02:06:42 PM
I thought that was strange also.  After thinking about it I realized he meant the compressor.


I was guessing that as well....seemed like a very odd comment.  I have a compressor in my garage, and it is used for everything from tire filling to power tools to spraying (with a pressure regulator and filter connected to the output.)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 22, 2013, 08:41:42 AM
Snap in the booth, gets buffed in a week.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020704_zpsba69268e.jpg)

Fully dressed 'G8R Bass'
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020701-001_zps7e14994d.jpg)

Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Pilgrim on January 22, 2013, 09:10:15 AM
Looks like the color that Fender's Lake Placid Blue turns into after about 20+ years.  Nice!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: drbassman on January 22, 2013, 09:22:01 AM
Wow, nice job!  Maybe I need one of these!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 22, 2013, 10:14:37 AM
Quote from: Pilgrim on January 22, 2013, 09:10:15 AM
Looks like the color that Fender's Lake Placid Blue turns into after about 20+ years.  Nice!
Thanks, the color changes depending on the light, looks pretty green sometimes.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020676_zps8b18f699.jpg)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020668_zps1af5360b.jpg)

Quote from: drbassman on January 22, 2013, 09:22:01 AM
Wow, nice job!  Maybe I need one of these!
Thanks, Bill.  It's been fun learning to play the thing! 
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Shark on January 22, 2013, 02:41:35 PM
Wow. Real nice creation.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Highlander on January 22, 2013, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: drbassman on January 22, 2013, 09:22:01 AM
Wow, nice job!  Maybe I need one of these!

Better hurry up and decide, Bill... someone might snap this one up... ;D (no, not me)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Rob on January 22, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
Nice detail and Hot DAYUM there's the trees!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 22, 2013, 04:09:26 PM
Thanks, guys!  Trees might be better after it's buffed out... ;D
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020694_zpscfd5e334.jpg)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on January 22, 2013, 04:51:31 PM
 I absolutely love the simplicity of this bass. Green is on of my least favorite colors, for this I make a exception, just beautiful.
Quote from: dadagoboi on January 22, 2013, 08:41:42 AM
Snap in the booth, gets buffed in a week.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020704_zpsba69268e.jpg)

Fully dressed 'G8R Bass'
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020701-001_zps7e14994d.jpg)


Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Stjofön Big on January 23, 2013, 03:20:11 AM
Extremely nice! Beautiful in the words deepest meaning! The colour is just killer! Any plans on doing her in regular 4-string?
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 23, 2013, 06:26:07 AM
Quote from: godofthunder on January 22, 2013, 04:51:31 PM
I absolutely love the simplicity of this bass. Green is on of my least favorite colors, for this I make a exception, just beautiful.

Quote from: Stjofön Big on January 23, 2013, 03:20:11 AM
Extremely nice! Beautiful in the words deepest meaning! The colour is just killer! Any plans on doing her in regular 4-string?

Thanks, guys!  Everything I do is available as a 4,5 or 8, including ExplorerBird.  Next will be a 12er when I get the neck sorted.

I don't expect there to be a lot of interest in this G8R (GATOR) body style, just did it for myself.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: gearHed289 on January 23, 2013, 09:10:20 AM
Very "space age"! Love the color. One of these days I'm going to bite the bullet and get my Ric re-finished to something like that.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: leftybass on January 23, 2013, 12:16:22 PM
A left-handed short-scale 8-string in that body shape would interest me.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: drbassman on January 23, 2013, 05:37:49 PM
Quote from: leftybass on January 23, 2013, 12:16:22 PM
A left-handed short-scale 8-string in that body shape would interest me.

Can you do an 8 string in 30 " scale?
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 23, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: drbassman on January 23, 2013, 05:37:49 PM
Can you do an 8 string in 30 " scale?

You'd have to build the neck. Needs to be 1 3/4" at the nut, can't buy one that wide.  It's really not something I'd want to do, I prefer the sound of long scale.  It would be easier to play though.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Highlander on January 24, 2013, 01:38:56 PM
A fretless neck could be adapted by having the frets cut to a 30" scale instead of whatever it was...
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 24, 2013, 05:08:24 PM
Quote from: HERBIE on January 24, 2013, 01:38:56 PM
A fretless neck could be adapted by having the frets cut to a 30" scale instead of whatever it was...

True but then the neck would have 24+ frets to accommodate  the neck heel and the bridge would be close to the middle of the body.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Highlander on January 25, 2013, 04:05:08 PM
Could be an interesting project for those that like shorties... not me mind you... sort of an alto-bass...
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: leftybass on January 28, 2013, 05:27:41 AM
I've had 2 short-scale 8-strings, including a Hagstrom, and 2 short-scale Hamer 12-strings, still have 1, would love a custom-made short-scale 8.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 28, 2013, 06:28:03 AM
Quote from: leftybass on January 28, 2013, 05:27:41 AM
I've had 2 short-scale 8-strings, including a Hagstrom, and 2 short-scale Hamer 12-strings, still have 1, would love a custom-made short-scale 8.

Sorry, Ronn, I don't build necks.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 30, 2013, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: gearHed289 on January 23, 2013, 09:10:20 AM
Very "space age"!

I blame you for this, Tom!  Decided to see how a pickguard would look.  This is clear acrylic sprayed with Krylon gold on the back side.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020726_zps488af106.jpg)

After it dried I stuck a 8.5 x 11 label paper sheet (glue side) to it to keep the gold from being abraded and trimmed it to fit with an exacto.  This is pre trim, clear side up with plastic film intact.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020728_zps7c47a79c.jpg)

Matching trussrod cover gets decal applied reversed to the bottom, then sprayed with gold.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020729_zpsf72a0722.jpg)

Same trick with label paper.  This is before it completely dried.
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Looks like this installed.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020790_zps36db8165.jpg)

Buffed out as a 2 pickup
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020784_zps48c549eb.jpg)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020787_zpse6130152.jpg)

And as single pup with stealth stacked pot, with and without p/g.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020794_zpsed7668af.jpg)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2013%20Eighter/P1020805_zpsf601fd42.jpg)






Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on January 30, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
 :o Wow!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Highlander on January 30, 2013, 04:54:54 PM
Tha's so OTT... ;D
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Lightyear on January 30, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
I love it with the guard!

The only thing I would change would be to change the knob out for a funky retro knob from a 50/60s TV or radio - something in gold 8)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Nocturnal on January 30, 2013, 09:30:24 PM
Looks great all three ways!!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: chromium on January 31, 2013, 09:19:33 AM
I'm really liking the single pickup version, with stacked pot and 'guard.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: gearHed289 on January 31, 2013, 09:25:45 AM
Wow, that really gives it a finished look!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Dave W on January 31, 2013, 12:00:30 PM
I like it with or without the guard. If you decide to go with a guard, the color combo of body and guard is just right.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Stjofön Big on January 31, 2013, 01:30:44 PM
She's nicest nude! Such a beautiful bass! And I'm sitting here wondering if I should take the Embassy, the Bachbird, or the Ripperbird for Saturdays gig. Oh my, I wish I had your bass, maaan. Then there would be no question! That is one sharp looking bass you've got!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on January 31, 2013, 02:04:05 PM
Thanks for all the compliments guys.  I'm really happy with the way it's turned out, I think it strikes a nice balance between retro and modern.  A "radio' knob would be pretty cool.  I made my first screwless guard for my '55 Precision when I refinned it in '73.  Double stick tape worked just fine.  Did the same with my '77 TBird.  This p/g actually stays in place by itself.  The extended fretboard and pickup keep it from moving.  They don't rivet airplanes together these days, makes no sense to use a bunch of screws on the guard that just clutter things up.   I got the idea for a gold P/G when I stuck the template on to see how it would look, it's sort of a gold green pendaflex folder and it looked pretty good.  The pictures barely do the bass justice, metallic green really comes alive in sunlight.

I've realized that within reason it makes sense to do variations on a theme when doing a design.  It's a lot easier to show a customer what's possible vs. telling them.  The dummy pickup is a big help.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: godofthunder on February 01, 2013, 05:10:39 AM
  I like it plain, well I like both actually but if push came to shove I'd say plain.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: exiledarchangel on February 01, 2013, 07:38:13 AM
Well I'll go both ways for this, I like it with and without guard. And please put a funky knob on! ;)
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: gearHed289 on February 01, 2013, 09:08:45 AM
I agree, regardless of my previous comment, I like it nekkid too!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on February 04, 2013, 12:16:06 AM
It's just stunning! My favorite combo is two pickups with the pickguard. It's just all kinds of shiny and mean! :o
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Pilgrim on February 04, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
I like it with the guard - it's very 1950's Formica-ish, which is a nice nostalgic touch.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: dadagoboi on February 04, 2013, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: Pilgrim on February 04, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
I like it with the guard - it's very 1950's Formica-ish, which is a nice nostalgic touch.

They reissued the boomerang pattern Formica in the mid 80s, that's exactly what was the inspiration for a table I did back then.  My aunt used to have the stuff on her kitchen table.
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Pilgrim on February 05, 2013, 04:38:52 PM
Quote from: dadagoboi on February 04, 2013, 11:21:03 AM
They reissued the boomerang pattern Formica in the mid 80s, that's exactly what was the inspiration for a table I did back then.  My aunt used to have the stuff on her kitchen table.

EXACTLY what I was thinking!
Title: Re: 8 String Thunderbird/REV 82 Build
Post by: Denis on February 12, 2013, 06:45:50 AM
The more I look at those two, the more I like them! Well done, Carlo!