The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Fender Basses => Topic started by: PhilT on August 13, 2012, 08:54:09 AM
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Never seen one of these on a stage (the bass, not Liam Gallagher)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22047936/beady2.JPG)
And this with The Who. Looks like a Jaguar body, but the pickup/pickguard combination isn't right. Any ideas?
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22047936/who2.JPG)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22047936/who5.JPG)
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The first pic is a Harmony. Same as the second, later one of Ronnie Lane. Could be Ronnnie's bass, because a friend of mine sold it some years ago...
Second one looks like a Jag bass with a MM-humbucker and a dog-eared P90? The Who used Morgan Nicholls on bass. He's a hired gun, used by Lily Allen and Muse. In Muse he plays keys and he played bass when Chris broke his wrist.
It could be a CS one off from Pino? Pino has a CS Fender with Thunderbird pickups, which is a bit of a secret at Fender's.
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The first pic is a Harmony. Same as the second, later one of Ronnie Lane. Could be Ronnnie's bass, because a friend of mine sold it some years ago...
Really? I thought it was a Coronado, hence putting it in the Fender section. But now I've Googled up some Harmony pictures, I'm sure you're right.
The Pawn Shop Reverse Jag has a big MM humbucker, so the Jag could be using that. We need to infiltrate some bass players into the TV camera crew fraternity, lots of time on Townsend's Strat, which is of no interest whatsoever.
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why oh why to townsend and daltry persist. one resembles an old freddy krueger and the other could be your grandmother. there hasn't been 'a who' in a long time. i guess there IS nothing like showbiz... :sad:
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Perhaps they enjoy playing their songs to folks who like them. I know I do.
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why oh why to townsend and daltry persist. one resembles an old freddy krueger and the other could be your grandmother. there hasn't been 'a who' in a long time. i guess there IS nothing like showbiz... :sad:
It's their right to carry on whether we like it or not. I'm sure playing to 10's of thousand beats sitting at home waiting to die. God bless 'em.
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they can do whatever the hell they like, no skin off my ass. i don't have to like it. you folks can think what you will. odd that i got responses from the guys i thought i might.
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General view over here is The Who rescued the show from a mass of generally mediocre performances. Though Townsend looks increasingly self conscious doing the windmills.
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Perhaps they enjoy playing their songs to folks who like them. I know I do.
That captures my thought. Simple.
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Hard to fault anyone for playing to please their fans, even if they are a shadow of what they used be. In some cases I wonder why fans still want to see a band that doesn't sound much like it used to or doesn't have any original members, but even then, that's the fans' decision.
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General view over here is The Who rescued the show from a mass of generally mediocre performances. Though Townsend looks increasingly self conscious doing the windmills.
Well his shoulders aren't 26 any longer :P
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My rule is...as long as people still come out and pay their hard-earned money to see the CincyRockers, I'll come out and play. I go from table to table every night and thank people for coming out ('cause when they stop, we're done). I'm 55.
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Hard to fault anyone for playing to please their fans, even if they are a shadow of what they used be. In some cases I wonder why fans still want to see a band that doesn't sound much like it used to or doesn't have any original members, but even then, that's the fans' decision.
Depends who's missing and who the replacement is, and what compromises you're prepared to put up with.
In The Who Zac Starkey isn't a bad replacement for Moon, and there's some logic for choosing him. The problem, for people who care at all, is in the bass department.
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Depends who's missing and who the replacement is, and what compromises you're prepared to put up with.
In The Who Zac Starkey isn't a bad replacement for Moon, and there's some logic for choosing him. The problem, for people who care at all, is in the bass department.
Agreed. OTOH their fans still pay to see them as-is.
Anyway, here's what I thought was the best suggestion: https://twitter.com/badbanana/status/234756090900926464 :) I would have watched that!
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"The Two" are within their rights to keep using the name "the Who" if they want. After all, the only things missing are the rhythm section and Daltrey's voice. :P
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"The Two" are within their rights to keep using the name "the Who" if they want. After all, the only things missing are the rhythm section and Daltrey's voice. :P
:mrgreen:
The rhythm section is the only thing left. No voice (Daltrey), no symphonic orchestra (Moon) and no lead guitar (JAE). But I still enjoyed it.
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And just to clarify - I'm not trying to be mean to Daltrey, it's just a simple fact that he can't sing like a man in his 20s or 30s anymore. Robert Plant did the right thing - twice - First by ending Zeppelin when Bonham died, and then by refusing to do a reunion tour and choosing to sing music that is more suited to his voice as it is today.
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Voices do age. McCartney's voice at the Olympics was definitely showing less stability and pitch than a few years ago.
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And just to clarify - I'm not trying to be mean to Daltrey, it's just a simple fact that he can't sing like a man in his 20s or 30s anymore. Robert Plant did the right thing - twice - First by ending Zeppelin when Bonham died, and then by refusing to do a reunion tour and choosing to sing music that is more suited to his voice as it is today.
I'm gonna go see the Quadrophenia tour... with the expectation that it'll sound absolutely nothing like it used to.
(They're probably going to have to do a combination of transposing and modifying melodies just to be able to make any vocal sound at all... some of those songs are HIGH)
On the "Wire & Glass" tour, I enjoyed Roger's voice the most on the newer songs... he sounded great on "Tea & Theater", which was written to be sung by a 60-year-old Daltrey, not a 20-year-old Daltrey.
I still like 'em.
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Voices do age. McCartney's voice at the Olympics was definitely showing less stability and pitch than a few years ago.
It might have been an off day plus the acoustics must have been horrible for the performers - Liam Gallagher (by now live hardly ever off key, I've seen him twice) was abysmal. The Spice Girls were struggling, not that they were ever very good singers in the first place. I saw Macca two years ago and he was vocally fine, even on the more demanding stuff.
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There was also the Arctic Monkeys doing Come Together in the opening ceremony - the lead singer was almost a half step flat. That kind of thing usually suggests horrible monitor problems, which are apparently pretty common at these big multi-artist events...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdCOQ2_6pQE
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I'm gonna go see the Quadrophenia tour... with the expectation that it'll sound absolutely nothing like it used to.
(They're probably going to have to do a combination of transposing and modifying melodies just to be able to make any vocal sound at all... some of those songs are HIGH)
I'm debating. I really want to go, just not to be disappointed, and also, I have never really listened to that album...it's one part of the Who's work I have missed.
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I saw the last tour. I enjoyed the show but it was really kind of sad thing. They had been on the road for months on end and Daltreys voice was just plain gone and Pino plain out underwhelmed me. Pete still played the same but the windmills were a little strained - his voice was strained as well.
Contrast that show to the last time I saw them in 1980 and it was night and day - they just killed. Quadorphenia is one my favorite albums - I'm torn as to spend the money or not.
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I've never been a big Who fan, but there are a lot of songs I do like. Live at Leeds is also one of the best live albums I ever had. I recall a Townshend quote a few years back, if you can believe him, that was basically the idea that people were determined to make him wealthy by insisting on them continuing to play. That may have been in reference to the Broadway version of Tommy.
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I was lucky enough to have seen them 1st time round; it would just ruin the memory for me...
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It might have been an off day plus the acoustics must have been horrible for the performers - Liam Gallagher (by now live hardly ever off key, I've seen him twice) was abysmal. The Spice Girls were struggling, not that they were ever very good singers in the first place. I saw Macca two years ago and he was vocally fine, even on the more demanding stuff.
I am reminded of George Harrison's comment which was something to the effect that one advantage to the Spice Girls is that they were just as enjoyable with the volume turned off as on.
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I am reminded of George Harrison's comment which was something to the effect that one advantage to the Spice Girls is that they were just as enjoyable with the volume turned off as on.
I also noticed that during the closing ceremonies.
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I beg to differ... the best way to enjoy them is watching a different channel to the one they're on... :puke:
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I found that Ginger rather enjoyable. (Yes, I had to utilize Google to find their names...) ;)
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I beg to differ... the best way to enjoy them is watching a different channel to the one they're on... :puke:
I'll have to admit I never paid much attention to them. It seemed to me that in the late 90s they were like a novelty act which mostly appealed to 12 year old girls. Add to that the "What You Really Want" song or whatever it was called, which was impossible to take seriously.
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Tom, you mean Geri...? ... and Westen, she definitely aimed at their dads...
(http://mikescollection.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mrpphotos211794-gl393094_geri-halliwell_union_jack_dress.jpg)
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Yikes, if she aimed at their dads, I'm quite sure she had no problem finding her target.
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There was a #TheLostSpiceGirls on Twitter at the time. Some of the names suggested were Botox Spice, Talented Spice, Silicon-Free Spice and Able To Sing A Note Spice. ;D Any would be more talented than the real Spice Girls,
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Despite having questionable talent, it does seem to me that the Spice Girls may have had some genuine sex appeal. This is unlike, for example, Britney Spears who has neither talent nor sex appeal. I saw a picture of her several days ago which showed what she looked like when she shaved her head. I'm still grossed out by that and have found it hard to forget.
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There are enough photos of Britney in her train wreck/trailer trash/dumpster phase to have permanently turned me off.
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Yeah, I never understood what was appealing about Britney. Horrible singer too, yet now I see promos of her as a judge of singers on Simon Cowell's show.
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I think they'll find out soon enough that getting her as a judge was a big mistake. Of course, I don't plan to be watching anyway, just as most people with a taste in music won't be watching.
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Re the spice girls names - Geri Halliwell ran into some controvesy over her age at one point being somewhat er... enhanced... so the gutter press started to call her Old Spice... she has persistently twisted the truth about her age but I believe she passed the big four-oh last month...
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I think they'll find out soon enough that getting her as a judge was a big mistake. Of course, I don't plan to be watching anyway, just as most people with a taste in music won't be watching.
I like to think I have "a taste in music" and this is one of the only shows I watch regularly. What can I say? I love a good train wreck! Plus it's fun playing armchair A&R guy/producer. I do start to lose interest as they wind down to the final 4-5 contestants. The show is probably toast at this point anyway. Tyler was great, but with him gone, and last man standing, Randy Jackson (great bass player BTW) leaving, they don't have much going on in the judging department.
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I like to think I have "a taste in music" and this is one of the only shows I watch regularly. What can I say? I love a good train wreck! Plus it's fun playing armchair A&R guy/producer. I do start to lose interest as they wind down to the final 4-5 contestants. The show is probably toast at this point anyway. Tyler was great, but with him gone, and last man standing, Randy Jackson (great bass player BTW) leaving, they don't have much going on in the judging department.
I was talking about the X-Factor which is the one with Britney Spears and Simon Cowell. I did watch American Idol from time to time, but that was only to see what Steven Tyler might be up to. The way things stand now, I don't plan to be watching either one and have never much liked the idea of these kinds of shows anyway. Most likely, though, if someone had the patience to sit through it, there might even be something worthwhile to watch from time to time. Seriously, though, like I said, I wouldn't ever watch a show with Britney Spears in it.
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I haven't watched any of them. Based on what I've seen from commercials, the most obnoxious one has to be The Voice. It appears that they value the ability to scream, screech and caterwaul at the highest possible volume - that's what they consider talent. It's painful to even sit through a promo.
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I haven't watched any of them. Based on what I've seen from commercials, the most obnoxious one has to be The Voice. It appears that they value the ability to scream, screech and caterwaul at the highest possible volume - that's what they consider talent. It's painful to even sit through a promo.
I have to agree about The Voice. I think I did watch about 30 minutes of it once. Besides the fact that I'm not fond of Christina Aguilera, there is that guy from Maroon 5. I think his name is Adam Levine. I could be wrong, but I get the impression he thinks he is God's gift to women. Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt, there are plenty of women out there excited about other men besides him. He just seems to be so full of himself. I have a close (female) friend who seems to despise him mostly for the reasons I've just mentioned.
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Like Tom, we enjoy the train-wrecks, but...
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Ah, yeah... X Factor. That stuff IS hard to stomach! And the Voice... just hasn't managed to grab my attention. The judges are their own train wreck.
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One of my favorite web comics is Scott Meyer's Basic Instructions. Here's a recent strip he did lampooning a certain Idol panelist. :)
http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2012/8/14/how-to-engage-in-recreational-cruelty.html
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(I missed that... Tom and Geri... ;D)