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Title: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Dave W on June 13, 2012, 09:10:25 AM
I saw Patti Smith on Letterman last night. Bassist Tony Shanahan was playing a shiny SG Bass in cherry. I had only seen him with Fenders before.

No video up yet.  Patti was in good form too.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 13, 2012, 09:14:08 AM
Good to hear that the old girl is doing fine.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Dave W on June 13, 2012, 09:26:15 AM
Quote from: uwe on June 13, 2012, 09:14:08 AM
Good to hear that the old girl is doing fine.

The old girl and I are the same age.  ;D
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 13, 2012, 09:37:09 AM
Yeah, but with you no-one would be able to tell!
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Dave W on June 13, 2012, 06:07:45 PM
Video is now up: http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_show/video/?pid=py3a_zfu1JUDxKptuoj3ysMIOWufRNJD&vs=Default&play=true
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Lightyear on June 13, 2012, 07:13:04 PM
Quote from: Dave W on June 13, 2012, 09:26:15 AM
The old girl and I are the same age.  ;D

Eeesh!  Dave, I would bet my next pay check that you look better than her :P
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Nocturnal on June 13, 2012, 10:28:26 PM
She always looked haggard to me. Even way back in the 70's she looked older than she was.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 14, 2012, 05:35:00 AM
Patti has something, both in her voice and in her looks. And she looks like the kind of thinking woman it is fun to have sex with. Intellect can be a turn-on, you know.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Stjofön Big on June 14, 2012, 06:52:28 AM
I really liked that record, Banga. In fact I liked it so much it got five stars out of five in my rewiew of it in the local paper. (I'm a retired reporter, but keep doing some album - that's cd for you, kids  :mrgreen: - rewiews, plus some live too)
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 14, 2012, 06:53:51 AM
Worth having then?
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: nofi on June 14, 2012, 07:32:26 AM
i love patti and agree with uwe's comment. :o and as long as lenny kaye is upright real rock and roll will never die.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Dave W on June 14, 2012, 08:23:49 AM
Quote from: uwe on June 14, 2012, 05:35:00 AM
Patti has something, both in her voice and in her looks. And she looks like the kind of thinking woman it is fun to have sex with. Intellect can be a turn-on, you know.

I saw an interview with her a couple of months ago on CBS Sunday Morning, with Anthony Mason, in front of an audience. It's online here (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7403974n). Definitely worth watching for Patti fans, hope it's viewable in Europe. She was candid, sang a couple of songs and took some audience questions too.

Hey wait, why aren't we talking about that SG Bass?  ;)
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 14, 2012, 08:53:08 AM
"Hey wait, why aren't we talking about that SG Bass?"

If you insist ...  :rolleyes:

Raven (or red, hey, she's a girl) haired vixens, Indie Music and SG RI basses = Fräulein Regina!!! She even talks about "fat bootm end" and such:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3w32YOfSbI

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRk5YmB4heapsNiLhDpUXtrP3TeywR_xlA9Qc24-ZQ_TVqoj7ulxw)

Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: godofthunder on June 15, 2012, 02:37:14 PM
 Probably the best up in the mix bass sound on a TV performance ever.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Barklessdog on June 15, 2012, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: nofi on June 14, 2012, 07:32:26 AM
i love patti and agree with uwe's comment. :o and as long as lenny kaye is upright real rock and roll will never die.

At least she can sing in key
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: patman on June 21, 2012, 06:02:58 AM
Bass sounded good...I don't get the music...not enough elements of traditional music for me (i.e. melody, chord structure, etc.).

Maybe I'm too old.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2012, 08:00:25 AM
Needs a bit more cowbell, errrm, D Major ...

She has mastered that chord well by the looks of it.  :mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxYid-L05xw

And even though Allen Lanier and her were an item one, no one is gonna describe her new song as harmony-drenched like some of BÖC's work was. There are other ways to play songs with D major too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbUxCXX0f2E&feature=related
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Dave W on June 21, 2012, 08:30:48 AM
Quote from: patman on June 21, 2012, 06:02:58 AM
Bass sounded good...I don't get the music...not enough elements of traditional music for me (i.e. melody, chord structure, etc.).

Maybe I'm too old.

I don't think old has anything to do with it. Some people have never gotten her music, and that's okay.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2012, 08:35:35 AM
I like Patti and how intense she is, but she's a lyricist and singer at heart, not a songwriter. Listen to Because the Night and it is so blatantly obvious what Springsteen wrote (mostly all) and what she wrote (the middle eight mostly around D). And plugging on this new song Banga on D endlessly without an interesting melody doesn't do it for me either, sorry. Add a second chord for chrisssakes - like G - and voilà you have a song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aPnFTFrg5k

Simplicity is lovely, just don't make it that obvious.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: jumbodbassman on June 21, 2012, 08:36:29 AM
that's my friend's son of the right with BOC.

His grand parents owned a music store in brooklyn called Bath Music.  really talented kid.  Dad played with the Chambers bros for a while and has a music store on Staten island now.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
I only saw them two weeks ago and he is their real asset!!! Maybe it was an off night, but they were lame (except him and Kasim Sulton on bass) and the set list was totally de-Eric Bloom'ed. Almost only Buck Dharma songs with Buck on (nice and melodic, yes, but he's no gripping frontman) lead vocals. I know he generally wrote the best songs with BÖC and is an incredibly tasteful and melodic guitarist, but Eric Bloom and his (less commercial) voice is what made BÖC special (Buck by himself wouldn't have been put of place with Christopher Cross  8) ). If I had gone to a Buck Dharma solo gig I would not have gone away disappointed, but ETI, Astronomy, Dr Music, RU Ready 2 Rock, Shadow of California, Harvester of Eyes, (This ain't the) Summer of Love, Black Blade, Divine Wind  and Veteran of the Psychic Wars all not being played  :-\, it was decidedly lacking ...

But not your friend's kid fault in any way. He sang well and played nice guitar and keyboards and seemed to actively enjoy what he was doing while Eric Bloom seemed to be, well ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibd7yxg6fJ4&feature=related

He's so subdued on stage (and this wasn't the first time I saw him like that) that I'm worrying whether he might be ill. Or maybe having to work to pay the rent is no fun anymore.

Credit where credit's due: Buck Dharma soloed exceedingly well. Immaculate taste and choice of notes.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: nofi on June 21, 2012, 09:16:45 AM
why disguise a simple song, uwe?  robert johnson, son house et al did just fine with 'simple' songs that turned into blues and rock icons. i think your love of 70's euro bombast colors your views on music, and there is that german thing... ;D
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2012, 09:27:12 AM
Hey, that's unfair!!! My music taste is wide ranging, everyone who knows me is surprised, more wide-ranging than anybody else I know. My car is currently filled with (CDs, I don't listen to individual songs, always to complete CDs) Rory Gallagher (Irish Tour remaster), David Sylvain (ex-Japan), Poco, new Slash, Marilyn Manson, Howlin Rain, Nora Jones, Leonard Cohen  (certainly a minimalist), Max Webster, Band of Skulls, Halestorm, new Dr. John (wonderful), Rush, Nickelbag, the new Garbage, Sunstorm, En Vogue (compilation - Free your mind!), a solo album by a Swedish bassist I forgot the name of, Nancy Sinatra, new The Cult, Foghat (Fool for the City remaster), new Coldplay, We are Augustines, Flying Colors, Gary Numan, new Magazine, new The Shins, new Meshell Ndwhatchamacalher and these guys here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQpg2liuyX8


Oh, and them as well:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MT0gYwKYIU

Is that sufficiently wide-ranging?  :mrgreen: You know, my Noah's Ark concept applies to my music buying too, I sometimes even go out of my way and buy stuff I know I will not like and listen to it as an intellectual exercise (like most things by U2). I'm different to most people I know in that way that I do not stop liking something - all the music I liked as a 16 year old I still like. It's just that with each passing year I like a wider range of music. But nothing is lost. From this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZDWTaSmC9M

to this (though perhaps not every hour of the day!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuHfAqz3TFY&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL4D8A83EB7CF31316

is no contradiction for me.

Though this song is probably the one I have liked best among releases in recent years, two Yanks with a bit of Euro bombast,
and a couple of more chords than D Major:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouy8JChTjVk


Not to forget "ze Tshörmän zing" of course  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUtzk7TmjVI




Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: nofi on June 21, 2012, 11:39:18 AM
there is a two hour documentary on scott walker hiding somewhere on your cable. i've watched it twice , the guy is quite remarkable.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2012, 11:48:17 AM
Demanding too, but who says all music has to be easily digestible?
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Highlander on June 21, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
It's raining here, again... Uwe has admitted to listening to Foghat... all these Noah references...

I'm heading for the Highlands... now...!

(BOC were in Eu...? missed again)
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 21, 2012, 04:39:49 PM
I really like the bass playing (producer did it, he later joined for a short while) on the Fool for the City album. It's quirky rock-funkish, very late seventies style, even a bit Disco influenced, but it's lively and even has humor in it.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: nofi on June 22, 2012, 07:53:32 AM
some fogfat for you. still sounds great with the extra pounds. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nwOBaH--kA&feature=relmfu

this must have been near the end for lonesome dave. :sad:

that is tone stevens believe it or not.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: gweimer on June 22, 2012, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: uwe on June 21, 2012, 04:39:49 PM
I really like the bass playing (producer did it, he later joined for a short while) on the Fool for the City album. It's quirky rock-funkish, very late seventies style, even a bit Disco influenced, but it's lively and even has humor in it.

My two favorite Foghat albums are the ones with Nick Jameson producing and playing bass.  Fool For The City was the big one, but In The Mood For Something Rude was equally as good.  Nick Jameson found a new career as the President in the 24 series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-coxadEL2iU
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: godofthunder on June 22, 2012, 09:22:33 AM
Quote from: nofi on June 22, 2012, 07:53:32 AM
some fogfat for you. still sounds great with the extra pounds. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nwOBaH--kA&feature=relmfu

this must have been near the end for lonesome dave. :sad:

that is tone stevens believe it or not.
Thanks for posting that ! Reminds me why I love Foghat! Great guitar sounds and Dave's voice one of the best in rock imho. Was that Roger Earl on slide ?
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: gweimer on June 22, 2012, 09:28:03 AM
Quote from: godofthunder on June 22, 2012, 09:22:33 AM
  Thanks for posting that ! Reminds me why I love Foghat! Great guitar sounds and Dave's voice one of the best in rock imho. Was that Roger Earl on slide ?

Roger Earl was on drums.  On this cut, I think it was Eric Cartwright on slide.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: godofthunder on June 22, 2012, 09:30:04 AM
  Oh man I should know that!
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: nofi on June 22, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
rod price plays slide on video i posted. he has also passed on. after he died the band was done imo.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: uwe on June 22, 2012, 09:50:06 AM
We start with Patti and end with Foghat. All things end in Foghat here.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: godofthunder on June 22, 2012, 10:02:24 AM
Quote from: nofi on June 22, 2012, 09:36:45 AM
rod price plays slide on video i posted. he has also passed on. after he died the band was done imo.
Yes that's it, Rod Price! RIP Dave and Rod.  :sad:
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Pilgrim on June 22, 2012, 10:38:37 AM
I may be late to the party, but the only part of Banga that appealed to me was the bass line.  At least I could hear it.  Aside from that, meh.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Dave W on June 22, 2012, 03:08:47 PM
The bass and bass line were why I posted it. I wouldn't expect anyone but diehard Patti fans to like the music.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: PhilT on June 24, 2012, 10:09:21 AM
I'd have less trouble with Patti Smith if she didn't put her damned poetry into everything.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Pilgrim on June 24, 2012, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: Dave W on June 22, 2012, 03:08:47 PM
The bass and bass line were why I posted it. I wouldn't expect anyone but diehard Patti fans to like the music.

Understood.  Rather cool bass line.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Dave W on June 24, 2012, 12:33:42 PM
Quote from: PhilT on June 24, 2012, 10:09:21 AM
I'd have less trouble with Patti Smith if she didn't put her damned poetry into everything.

And I'd have less trouble with John Milton if he didn't put his damned poetry into everything!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: patman on June 24, 2012, 01:44:13 PM
Don't mind poetry...bass sounds good
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: clankenstein on June 24, 2012, 03:15:54 PM
i cant believe its not butter.nice bass sound.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: PhilT on June 25, 2012, 04:02:09 AM
Quote from: uwe on June 21, 2012, 09:27:12 AM
Hey, that's unfair!!! My music taste is wide ranging, everyone who knows me is surprised, more wide-ranging than anybody else I know. My car is currently filled with (CDs, I don't listen to individual songs, always to complete CDs)  ....


Stick with it. Having moved my mp3s onto my phone, so I can use the voice search to tell it which album to play in the car, I realised I am now completely incapable of deciding which album I want to hear. Too much mp3 player on random scrambles the brain.
Title: Re: SG RI Bass sighting -- Patti Smith on Letterman
Post by: Highlander on June 25, 2012, 05:17:02 PM
Big C got Lonesome and "the Bottle" fell down the stairs and broke his neck iirc... rip