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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Aussie Mark on June 15, 2011, 10:56:14 PM

Title: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: Aussie Mark on June 15, 2011, 10:56:14 PM
Wonder what the neck is off?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-EPIPHONE-RIVOLI-BASS-SAME-GIBSON-EB2-/260801173141?pt=AU_Musical_Instruments_Instruments&hash=item3cb8f61695

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqUOKiUE3GytEJ)WBN8b-Ln+Lg~~_3.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKpwE3t5yrVdnBN8b-ZdZdg~~_3.JPG)

Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: Basvarken on June 15, 2011, 11:40:26 PM
The edge of the headstock makes it look like an Elite.
Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: dadagoboi on June 16, 2011, 03:09:01 AM
The intonation has to be off by around 2 inches (50 mm).  Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: Basvarken on June 16, 2011, 04:43:09 AM
Not necessarily. The neck meets the body at the 20th fret.
This is a long mofo!
Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: Chris P. on June 16, 2011, 05:54:29 AM
Or a neck from a Standard Epi EB3?
Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: jumbodbassman on June 16, 2011, 07:37:19 AM
not sure about the neck.  2 extra frets but on standard scale neck is up against pickup.  I agrre with Carlo.  probably  2inches off but certainly room to move it back.
Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: Dave W on June 16, 2011, 07:51:08 AM
34" scale 22 fret neck: nut to 22nd is 24.459" leaving 9.541"

30.5" scale 20 fret neck: nut to 20th is 20.893" leaving 9.607"

That's close enough (about 1/16") that a slight difference in the distance past the last fret and the end of the neck could make it exact.
Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: dadagoboi on June 16, 2011, 10:35:44 AM
34" scale 22 fret neck: nut to 22nd is 24.459" leaving 9.541"

30.5" scale 20 fret neck: nut to 20th is 20.893" leaving 9.607"

That's close enough (about 1/16") that a slight difference in the distance past the last fret and the end of the neck could make it exact.

Aha, didn't realize it was 22 fret neck.  That's close enough for bass playing, especially if you're used to vintage Thunderbird  Mystery Scale Intonation.  It figures that someone competent enough to install the neck knew what he was doing.  Nice bass, now I'm jonesing for the EB-2 I bought.

Is it Christmas in Australia?  Guy has a stocking hanging in the window.
Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: ilan on June 16, 2011, 01:09:15 PM
No way this is going to work. Look at the picture and measure from the nut to 12th fret, then from the 12th fret to the bridge. The bridge/tailpiece needs to be relocated south by about an inch for the bass to play in tune. As it is, I guess you can't play past 2nd fret.

The camera angle makes it easy to measure. I know I measured correctly because (0 to 5th fret) = (5th to 12th) in the pic, as it should be.
Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: dadagoboi on June 16, 2011, 02:36:59 PM
No way this is going to work. Look at the picture and measure from the nut to 12th fret, then from the 12th fret to the bridge. The bridge/tailpiece needs to be relocated south by about an inch for the bass to play in tune. As it is, I guess you can't play past 2nd fret.

The camera angle makes it easy to measure. I know I measured correctly because (0 to 5th fret) = (5th to 12th) in the pic, as it should be.

Can't really measure photographs where the object isn't absolutely parallel to the picture plane.  I agree with Dave if his measurements are correct (betting they are).  What matters is how far the distance from the nut to the bridge, 30 1/2 or 34 in this case, and the 22 fret neck adds the 1.5 inches necessary...Mark could always ask the guy for a measurement, that would end conjecture...except for that Santa stocking.
Title: Re: '67 Rivoli with a long scale neck added
Post by: Dave W on June 16, 2011, 06:02:39 PM
The figures are from the fret calculator on Stew-Mac's site.