Two major moves this week. First, I talked the wife into a concrete floor for the barn. Now I can set up a "dirty" shop for heavy sawing and sanding and a spray room!!! I'm even gonna put heat out there. Now we're talking!!!!
Also picked up a lightly used Sand Flee sander with all of the accessories at a nice price reduction. These things are great for large surface sanding jobs, like a bass!
(http://www.rjrstudios.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Sanf-Flee%20SF-1800-350p.jpg)
Great news!
...and fold down bunks for visiting.............
I take it u got the one with direct drive.
Fantastic! Congrats
That is great news Bill !
Thats hella cool. What part of the country do you live in? North, south, east, west?
Just don't forget the beer fridge and color TV out there!
Thanks guys! I'm pumped. This is gonna be a fun spring!
I live in western NY. Snow country.
Quote from: shadowcastaz on March 26, 2011, 02:21:10 PM
I take it u got the one with direct drive.
Yep, room for a dormitory! This one has the direct drive. Very smooth and surprisingly quiet.
Quote from: Pilgrim on March 26, 2011, 05:44:48 PM
Just don't forget the beer fridge and color TV out there!
Oh yeah! Beer and tele, the perfect combo. I'll have to install a stove for heat too!
Good news about your shop.
From what I've seen of the Sand-Flee, it's good for fine sanding, not for removing much material.
Quote from: Dave W on March 26, 2011, 08:38:45 PM
Good news about your shop.
From what I've seen of the Sand-Flee, it's good for fine sanding, not for removing much material.
I agree, but it sure will be nice to run an entire body over it for finish sanding and have it smooth and level. An improvement for sure.
Quote from: drbassman on March 26, 2011, 08:59:34 PM
I agree, but it sure will be nice to run an entire body over it for finish sanding and have it smooth and level. An improvement for sure.
A handy thing to have around or sure. I think Spray (aka Carlo) is making one on wheels to lease out to the state for leveling concrete roads.
Quote from: sniper on March 26, 2011, 09:11:35 PM
A handy thing to have around or sure. I think Spray (aka Carlo) is making one on wheels to lease out to the state for leveling concrete roads.
Yeah, I remember that monster. It's got a Hemi doesn't it? :P
yeah and his inspiration was a snowblower i think
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/bowshot.jpg)
Quote from: drbassman on March 26, 2011, 08:37:15 PM
Oh yeah! Beer and tele, the perfect combo. I'll have to install a stove for heat too!
Just remember to start the beer AFTER you're done with the power tools.
Which model do you have? The one in the pic?
Quote from: sniper on March 26, 2011, 09:34:39 PM
yeah and his inspiration was a snowblower i think
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/bowshot.jpg)
Oh yeah! That guy lives up North!
Quote from: Pilgrim on March 26, 2011, 09:42:16 PM
Just remember to start the beer AFTER you're done with the power tools.
Always! I have my priorities straight. I love my fingers right where they are!
Quote from: birdie on March 27, 2011, 12:19:43 AM
Which model do you have? The one in the pic?
Yep, although the newer direct drive models have improved baffles inside for better dust collection with your attached vacuum. I tested it out this morning on Sniper's body and it's really nice. With a grade 60 or 80, I think you could whittle something down fairly efficiently, and level!
Man, am I ever envious! :-[ A Stand alone shop is a dream I've long had. Actually, I'm dreaming of a free standing "dog house" in the guise of a shop. You know, heated, cooled, with a basic bathroom and large utility sink - I would never need to come into the house! ;D This might keep out of trouble to a certain extent...
Quote from: Lightyear on March 27, 2011, 11:18:33 AM
Man, am I ever envious! :-[ A Stand alone shop is a dream I've long had. Actually, I'm dreaming of a free standing "dog house" in the guise of a shop. You know, heated, cooled, with a basic bathroom and large utility sink - I would never need to come into the house! ;D This might keep out of trouble to a certain extent...
Amen!!!!
I read up on it a bit. They say you can joint with it!
BTW, how is your Veritas pin router working?
Quote from: birdie on March 27, 2011, 03:53:12 PM
I read up on it a bit. They say you can joint with it!
BTW, how is your Veritas pin router working?
The pin router is good. I'll be using it a lot more when I start producing my own basses. I use it without the pin for general table routing too. Works well!
Thanks. Good to hear. Am inching closer and closer...
My biggest concern as a newbie is buying the wrong thing, the wrong features, the wrong price etc etc.
Don't want to buy the same type of item 3 or 4 times and waste resources and time bla bla
surely you went through something similar.Or maybe not! :mrgreen:
Thanks for listening. How much do I owe ya? Ha!
Quote from: birdie on March 27, 2011, 09:24:37 PM
Thanks. Good to hear. Am inching closer and closer...
My biggest concern as a newbie is buying the wrong thing, the wrong features, the wrong price etc etc.
Don't want to buy the same type of item 3 or 4 times and waste resources and time bla bla
surely you went through something similar.Or maybe not! :mrgreen:
Thanks for listening. How much do I owe ya? Ha!
I hear ya, I do have some stuff around the shop that I bought and it didn't work out. It happens! They'll end up on eBay when I have some time! The only flaw in the pin router table I have is most industrial pin routers have a hydraulic driven router so you can start the router into the piece with a foot pedal while holding the wood with both hands. Of course it requires a compressor to drive the action of the router. Another pain.
In my set up, I get around that option by simply drilling a pilot hole to the depth I want in the final rout and advance the router by hand a 1/4" at a time. A little more cumbersome, but it works just fine for me. The Porter Cable routers (690) just spin in their base and are very easy to adjust. Maybe someday I'll invest in the real thing.
Yeah I hear ya about buying the wrong thing. Not to happy with my new bandsaw doesn't have enough umph to cut through thick moho body blanks easily.
Quote from: godofthunder on March 28, 2011, 06:50:06 AM
Yeah I hear ya about buying the wrong thing. Not to happy with my new bandsaw doesn't have enough umph to cut through thick moho body blanks easily.
Wow, I'm surprised. I thought that Delta could handle it without too much trouble. How thick is the wood you're cutting?
The blanks are 1 3/4", density varies a bit.
You need a bigger motor? Have you tried a more agressive blade?
Thanks Guys. So far no major head- slappers..Bosch router which I really like.
Found a barely used Bosch router tavble with a Triton router allready mounted. That one works amazingly well, although the "fence" is crrapp......and so it goes. Onward and upward!
Quote from: drbassman on March 28, 2011, 08:23:20 AM
You need a bigger motor? Have you tried a more agressive blade?
I have been looking at blades any ideas?
Quote from: godofthunder on March 28, 2011, 08:48:56 AM
I have been looking at blades any ideas?
I was just going to say you need 3 TPI 1/2" blades. You have to finese tight radii but you'll get the hang of it.
Cool I'll pick one up, thanks.
Which machine you have? Ive cut 3 1/2" maple on my delta band saw.
My saw is Delta model 28-276 3/4 hp
I've cut 4" maple and mahogany with ease on my Jet 14" which is a refinement of Delta's old design. It's 1 HP but there's no reason your Delta shouldn't handle 1 3/4" and more with no problem, with a good setup and the right blade.
May I suggest Mark Duginske's Band Saw Handbook (http://www.amazon.com/Band-Saw-Handbook-Mark-Duginske/dp/0806963980)?
Quote from: Dave W on March 28, 2011, 05:32:36 PM
I've cut 4" maple and mahogany with ease on my Jet 14" which is a refinement of Delta's old design. It's 1 HP but there's no reason your Delta shouldn't handle 1 3/4" and more with no problem, with a good setup and the right blade.
May I suggest Mark Duginske's Band Saw Handbook (http://www.amazon.com/Band-Saw-Handbook-Mark-Duginske/dp/0806963980)?
+1 on the book! I bought right after I picked my 3/4 HP Jet many years back. A good blade will make a world of differnce as the stock blades
really suck. I'm ready to up my motor to a 1HP when I add the resaw kit.
I have an older close based model . You should get an olson blade. the wider the blade the less tpi(tooth per inch). Prob a 3/8" skip tooth will work so you can make those corners. my 1st saw I cussed for 4 months until I was told I had a metal cutting blade on it. . I had a half dozen blades hangin in the basement and a water leak dribbled on them makin a rusty mess.
One by one I cleaned them oiled them & they work fine , so its worth it to invest in a good blades.
Next check your guide (cooling) blocks that help the blade track when under pressure. Once they are adjusted your golden. Band saws take a lot of tweekin but once you get used to it its easy.I also had a buddy that was having trouble with his band saw . I went over his place.... the blade was upside down. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Quote from: shadowcastaz on March 28, 2011, 07:47:24 PM
I have an older close based model . You should get an olson blade. the wider the blade the less tpi(tooth per inch). Prob a 3/8" skip tooth will work so you can make those corners. my 1st saw I cussed for 4 months until I was told I had a metal cutting blade on it. . I had a half dozen blades hangin in the basement and a water leak dribbled on them makin a rusty mess.
One by one I cleaned them oiled them & they work fine , so its worth it to invest in a good blades.
Next check your guide (cooling) blocks that help the blade track when under pressure. Once they are adjusted your golden. Band saws take a lot of tweekin but once you get used to it its easy.I also had a buddy that was having trouble with his band saw . I went over his place.... the blade was upside down. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
These are great discussions as a heavy duty band saw is my next target!!!!
Quote from: Dave W on March 28, 2011, 05:32:36 PM
I've cut 4" maple and mahogany with ease on my Jet 14" which is a refinement of Delta's old design. It's 1 HP but there's no reason your Delta shouldn't handle 1 3/4" and more with no problem, with a good setup and the right blade.
May I suggest Mark Duginske's Band Saw Handbook (http://www.amazon.com/Band-Saw-Handbook-Mark-Duginske/dp/0806963980)?
Gonna get one of these! Thanks Dave! Who knew you could write a book on band saws??? :P
Mark Duginske sold me an Inca bandsaw in 1978 and drove over 200 miles to deliver it to me. That was before he wrote his first book.
He knows his stuff. The Kreg bandsaw fence is his design. IIRC he patented it as the Fasttrak and later sold the design to Kreg.
+1 on Olsen blades and Cool blocks...or Carter guides. 3 TPI 1/2 inch blades will easily cut Bird bodies as well as .090 pick guard plastic and .032 aluminum. Proper tension/setup is key.
My main goal is to have a saw that will cut an 8" wide board down the middle so I can take a 3" thick board and halve it if I want to.
Good Grief... I go off line for a few days and all hell breaks loose..! ;)
Get one of them old pot-belly stoves and have perpetual coffee on the go... except when you're spraying... :o
Quote from: Kenny's 51st State on March 29, 2011, 02:57:03 PM
Good Grief... I go off line for a few days and all hell breaks loose..! ;)
Get one of them old pot-belly stoves and have perpetual coffee on the go... except when you're spraying... :o
Oh yeah, and a cracker barrel to put my feet up on while sipping possum soup! :P
Quote from: drbassman on March 29, 2011, 09:38:12 AM
My main goal is to have a saw that will cut an 8" wide board down the middle so I can take a 3" thick board and halve it if I want to.
A 14" saw with a riser kit would do the job. I have an open base, 3/4 HP Jet and it I had it do over again I would go for the 1 HP. Jet is every bit as pricey as Delta now. Surprisingly Grizzly is starting to get some very good reviews. I recently bought a Grizzly jointer and it has been fantastic - it saved me $275 delivered over the Jet and Delta.
Band saw book is on the way. Also found a bunch of great videos on You Tube............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXW55S4X9zo
Used jointers are readily available and cheap, I bought a quality 70s Craftsman 6", all cast iron w/ stand, manual and extra set of knives for $100 recently. They come up on CL regularly.
I put a 2HP 220v motor on my Delta 14" band saw when I had my production shop. It made a big difference.
Quote from: dadagoboi on March 30, 2011, 05:53:54 AM
Used jointers are readily available and cheap, I bought a quality 70s Craftsman 6", all cast iron w/ stand, manual and extra set of knives for $100 recently. They come up on CL regularly.
I put a 2HP 220v motor on my Delta 14" band saw when I had my production shop. It made a big difference.
Yeah, I'm starting to look at CL more seriously. I want to upgrade my band and table saws. I'll buy new if I have to, but I'm not averse to good quality used equipment! My used Sand Flee is really cool and I saved a couple hundred on it.
My current US made Delta bandsaw is also from CL, less than 1/2 the price of today's supposed equivalent (imported) from Delta. I also have an 8" Belsaw planer which is quite a machine. Parts still available from San Jose, CA. I've owned 2 lightweight import planers and they don't compare. Not one piece of plastic on the Belsaw.
Quote from: dadagoboi on March 30, 2011, 11:19:35 AM
My current US made Delta bandsaw is also from CL, less than 1/2 the price of today's supposed equivalent (imported) from Delta. I also have an 8" Belsaw planer which is quite a machine. Parts still available from San Jose, CA. I've owned 2 lightweight import planers and they don't compare. Not one piece of plastic on the Belsaw.
Yeah, on my future list is a heavier-duty planer and jointer. I saw a nice looking Reliant band saw on the local CL, but one of the woodworkers forums had folks saying you can't get parts for it since they went out of business over 5 years ago.
Doc, keep you eyes open for a Delta or Jet 14" saw - they're common and affordable. Parts are readily available and the design is very solid. Like Carlos said a beefier motor works wonders and these saws are easily pimped to sweet performers.
How about a Binford Turbo XP1400? ;D ;D
aaARGH, ARGH, ARGH, arghhh,ARGH,
(now now - jealousy is such a bad emotion...)
Got my book, now for a saw!
Like this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFGva6ZS4fU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9x8rBKC4BE
Proof that too much is not enough, and the answer to everything for guys is "more power".
Quote from: Pilgrim on April 06, 2011, 10:13:56 AM
Proof that too much is not enough, and the answer to everything for guys is "more power".
Yeah baby!!!!!!!
Here's the Sand Flee all set up. You just screw it down to the table and sand away!!!!!!!
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/Misc%20Stuff/DSCN0143_134.jpg)
Quote from: dadagoboi on March 28, 2011, 08:51:41 AM
I was just going to say you need 3 TPI 1/2" blades. You have to finese tight radii but you'll get the hang of it.
I got a 3 TPI 1/2" blade the other week makes all the difference ! Thanks for the advice.
Hope you got some good ventalation there.