The price tag is shocking, but I have to admit, its a beauty. :-*
http://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/Gibson-EBS%252d1250-Double-Neck-Bass-%7B47%7D-Guitar--Black-1966.html
(http://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/product_images/z/784/4__08199_zoom.jpg)
$30K? :o Even for CME, that's optimistic. Have any sold for over $10K even when the economy was better?
wish i could afford it but ........ i am not too impressed with "Gibson" engraved into the guitar side and not the bass side pups nor am i impressed with what i think appear to be later style bass tuners on a 66?
just my 2 cents.
A number of years back, Mikes music had a refin for about $4,000. It might have had Fuzz-tone?? It seemed like a lot of money at the time. I would like to have another crack at it at that price today..... ??? ???
With those embossed pickups, shouldn't it be more like a 1971?
Someday, someday...
Well, probably not, but I can dream!
Nah! I pass
Why anyone here needs those extra 6 strings and 2 pickups for? I sure dont...
Quote from: sniper dog on December 15, 2010, 05:27:36 PM
wish i could afford it but ........ i am not too impressed with "Gibson" engraved into the guitar side and not the bass side pups nor am i impressed with what i think appear to be later style bass tuners on a 66?
just my 2 cents.
I noticed those things too. I am pretty sure all of it can't be factory original, which is kind of funny given the monstrous price tag.
I love the bass/guitar concept because I do a lot of looping / solo performance. It would be very handy! Maybe I'll just wait around for the Ibanez version of this (pictured here with Takeshi from Boris):
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cLI19EXK2oU/TB7uh26HxnI/AAAAAAAAAuc/mWexAqRgPKU/s1600/51GbCyH9cpL._SS500_.jpg)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-77-Ibanez-2404-Cherry-SG-Doubleneck-Bass-6-String-/250739365706?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a613b174a
Went for a decent price.
Like everything at Chicago Music Exchange, it is brutally overpriced. They have big ads to pay for in Vintage Guitar, and brie and wine isn't cheap. But yes - that is clearly not a 1966. The pups and bass tuners point to this leaving the factory in 1971-72, and the evertilt alone puts it a year or two later than 66 at least. Like all things bass-related with Gibson the body could very well have been made up and serial numbered in 1966 and sat around unfinished for years. That might explain a black factory finish, if there was some flaw with the body. But they should know better, as we all do.
They do know better. You can count on that.
The embossed pickups raised a red flag right away. Somethings fishy.
I bought my '66 EB-2D from them. I think now that about eight years has passed, it might actually be worth what I gave for it! (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/smilies/omg.gif) (no matter, though, knew full-well what I was doing and still love that bass)
Also interesting to note the '2' on the back of the bass headstock
Quote from: EvilLordJuju on December 16, 2010, 12:22:40 PM
Also interesting to note the '2' on the back of the bass headstock
Good catch. It's hard to imagine that they would let one of these out as a second since so few were made. Could be, but it's also possible that just the bass neck was a 2. Which -- along with the solid color finish -- makes me wonder if it's possible this is not a factory EBS-1250. Hard to know.
I bet that it is in fact a factory instrument, and that it left the factory in 1971-2 era using left-over parts. The 2 would help to confirm at least to me that Gibson did this as a standard practice (ala the 1962 Explorers). This may have started out as a double neck, or they had a couple of crapped up axes in the SG and EB0 wreck room. This is my pet theory which dovetails into Gibson using the basses as the training wheels work for new guys (Jules - how are those Kalamazoo interviews coming along?). "Hmmm, how can we make money off this salvage?" Presto - double neck. A black finish would cover up some sins there too, like how they started using sparkling burgundy to fix ES's. It would not be too far off to think it was original, although it could be a refin and with a price tag as unrealistic as that it could be a fake. With prices like those, if it ever sold, faking fantasy Gibsons could be worth your while if you had no conscience.
But again, times is tough for the vintage dealers. Especially those who cultivated the snob investment world and talked about these things like they were stamps or wine. Maybe they just overlooked, I dunno, almost EVERYTHING.
At least this one has the components in the right sort of places, unlike that one that had two sets of controls - one of them at the top of the body...
I have a hunch it is the real thing, but really, any bass beridden with the strange disease of sharing a body with a, yes, guitar should be half the price of what it costs alone!
Amen! Let's keep an eye out for 6 string bass and bass. Bass and mandolin would be a hoot, too.
Quote from: eb2 on December 17, 2010, 08:05:13 AM
Amen! Let's keep an eye out for 6 string bass and bass. Bass and mandolin would be a hoot, too.
+1, especially on the bass/mandolin!
Quote from: uwe on December 17, 2010, 06:33:02 AM
... but really, any bass beridden with the strange disease of sharing a body with a, yes, guitar should be half the price of what it costs alone!
... still half a Gibson Bass not in
Ze Köllectiontm... ;) (at a totally unrealistic price, mind you...)
I vaguely remember a thread with a double neck including mandolin previously - not a bass iirc
Quote from: EvilLordJuju on December 16, 2010, 12:22:40 PM
Also interesting to note the '2' on the back of the bass headstock
Actually, in this case, it was the guy at Gibson just marking down how many necks he attached :)
The Gibson Bass/Mandolin belonged to the late Allen Woody.
(http://fufustew.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/wood2.jpg)
Yeah! Nice pic of Mr. Woody. A fan of my old band Jiggle the Handle became Govt. Mule's road manager, plus his sister was married to Allen Woody! A tenuous connection, but I was able to go backstage at one of their "Deep End" concerts and talk to Widespread Panic's Dave Schools who was playing bass on the tour...
$30K is crazy.
I heard Scott Silver sold Chicago Music Exchange and is out of the music business. The new owner is opening a drum shop and a pro sound shop next to the guitar shop.
Quote from: fur85 on December 17, 2010, 11:10:22 PM
$30K is crazy.
I heard Scott Silver sold Chicago Music Exchange and is out of the music business. The new owner is opening a drum shop and a pro sound shop next to the guitar shop.
Now that's interesting. I wonder if he overpaid for the inventory? That might explain why the asking price on this is even higher than usual for CME.
Maybe they were bought out by Cream City Music, another discount retailer.......... :rolleyes:
Quote from: n!k on December 17, 2010, 07:25:39 PM
The Gibson Bass/Mandolin belonged to the late Allen Woody.
(http://fufustew.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/wood2.jpg)
Woody sure had some cool shit. The head of Steinberger asked me to put together an ad/promotion with Woody/Allmans back in the 90s and I had to run some ideas by Allen...called the hotel where he was at and ended up waking Greg Allman, who answered the phone (sounded dead.) Funny.
A friend who I've known for 30 years has managed the Allman Bros since the 80s.
QuoteA friend who I've known for 30 years has managed the Allman Bros since the 80s.
He is doing a good job then, as they more or less resurrected themselves in that period. The whole Allman and Woman period was disturbing.
I'm man enough to admit to having seen that one... :o
Quote from: mc2NY on December 18, 2010, 11:37:42 AM
Woody sure had some cool shit. The head of Steinberger asked me to put together an ad/promotion with Woody/Allmans back in the 90s and I had to run some ideas by Allen...called the hotel where he was at and ended up waking Greg Allman, who answered the phone (sounded dead.) Funny.
A friend who I've known for 30 years has managed the Allman Bros since the 80s.
I'm a big Woody fan. I emailed Walter Carter at Gruhns a few years ago with questions about the Woody bass. Woody used to work at Gruhns. The Epi Woody bass was ultimately inspired by the Mando Bass that Gibson made for him. Which is kind of stating the obvious a bit when you look at them together.
Quote from: eb2 on December 18, 2010, 02:07:22 PM
He is doing a good job then, as they more or less resurrected themselves in that period. The whole Allman and Woman period was disturbing.
Some people are just jealeous here! :mrgreen: Have mercy on him, he was in love ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OssZL_YNZ3o
Cher sure ain't holding back on that track, drowning out pure (poor?) Greg with her characteristic hollering. She sure wasn't overawed. More overbearing really. Still, Ken liked it at the time and now doesn't 'fess up.
Got to have a long chat with Allen in the 90s when Govt.Mule and my band were taping a TV show in Austin. We talked Hofners, he loved mine.
Quote from: uwe on December 21, 2010, 01:31:14 PM
... Still, Ken liked it at the time...
... From the front row, in a skin tight get-up, back in '77... ;)