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Title: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2010, 11:02:21 AM
I'm almost done with the finishing of my self built bass.

Now that I have to wait before I can start the polishing/buffing I have time to figure out how I'm gong to wire the thing...


I have two single coil G3 (or S1) pickups. One of them is reverse polarity. I bought them in the beginning of the BaCHbird project. With the idea to put them together as a humbucker. But the Artec turned out pretty good so I never used this pair.

Plus I have an Artec Mudbucker that I've been planning to use since I tested a Stagg EB0 type bass with the mudbucker at the bridge. I liked the effect of the mudbucker in that position.

I want to use a five six position rotary switch to choose the different combinations.
And one volume knob and one tone knob

But I have no idea how to tackle this :o
Can any of you guys help me out?


Here's a drawing I made with all the components I have :


(http://www.superfloor.net/bedrading zelfbouwbas.jpg)

and a pdf in vector format:

http://www.superfloor.net/bedrading zelfbouwbas.pdf (http://www.superfloor.net/bedrading zelfbouwbas.pdf)

Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Highlander on September 28, 2010, 11:09:31 AM
Unless I've gone bananas, Rob, that's a six position switch...? it moves 5 times but has six positions... yes...?
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2010, 11:34:12 AM
Excellent! That means I have one extra option to wire. :-)
Let me think; position 6 bridge pickup plus neck pickup?
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: exiledarchangel on September 28, 2010, 11:36:14 AM
I thought of something more simpler and much more practical than those dreadful rotary switches, but it involves the use of two 3-way switches instead. Are you interested on that? Or are you determined to use that rotary madness?
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Highlander on September 28, 2010, 11:38:13 AM
Rob is terminally involved with those switches... ;)
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2010, 11:45:52 AM
Haha, I actually own only one bass with a rotary switch and that is the JCS with only three positions.
I really want to keep the top as clean as possible. So I'd rather have one rotary switch than two toggle switches...
I'm even going to hide the Tone pot on the back of the body  8)
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: exiledarchangel on September 28, 2010, 11:47:20 AM
Hmmm, maybe a 3-way and a push-pull pot then? :D
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2010, 11:57:36 AM
Is a rotary switch really that bad? I figured it's really handy for multiple connections?
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Highlander on September 28, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
Looks fine on mine and its all a matter of esthetics - your looking at a hybrid LP, so it suits...

Before you do anything you need to connect everything up to a test rig so you can see what will be usefull sounds before going to the fun-and-games of the final wiring... I spent ages figuring mine out and then discovered a circuitry feedback issue...

I could figure out most of it... What are the resistance values of the pups...?
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2010, 12:13:25 PM
What are the resistance values of the pups...?

I don't know Kenny. I'm going to have to dig up my multimeter. Hope it still works...

Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Highlander on September 28, 2010, 12:22:54 PM
(tsk, tsk... amateurs...) ;D
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2010, 12:32:57 PM
 :-[ the multimeter of this amateur is toast....
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Highlander on September 28, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
Let me guess, some nice green fungus like material where the battery used to live...? ;D

I'll go and play with my pencil and some paper - shouldn't make a massive amount of difference as your only using a master vol/tone...
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
No, I think it's the connectors/wires that have suffered serious abuse...  :P


The Artec is really hot, I believe it's 30 K

The G3 pickup should be somewhere just under 10K.

Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: exiledarchangel on September 28, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
It hasn't "all three" option, but it has "mud plus neck" that is much more useful. Take it or leave it, my head is about to explode!  ;D
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Highlander on September 28, 2010, 02:15:07 PM
pm'd and check you email in-box

as per your spec (ish) but as it's a crude quickie drawing I haven't posted
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 28, 2010, 11:37:25 PM
Thank you Ken!


And thank you Exiledarchagel too!


 :thumbsup:



Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: jumbodbassman on September 29, 2010, 07:58:02 AM
I think you might miss the all 3 0n setting.  Mud plus neck will have some 60 cycle hum.  I know i would miss it. Also i would think about 2 stacked knobs so you can get alittle of this and a little of that.  I went with that on this bass (plus an emg preamp which is  not really necesary)  but i love being able to control how much of each pickup i use  IMHO
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: jumbodbassman on September 29, 2010, 08:03:31 AM
another option is to go with the dano hodad setup.  same rotary setup as above but the switch gets in all three.  if you want i can take some pictures of what the cavity looks like....
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 29, 2010, 10:57:57 AM
All three on is in position 5: mudbucker plus neck and middle pickup (as humbucker)
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: jumbodbassman on September 29, 2010, 01:37:32 PM
not in prior page diagram or  am I missing something
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on September 29, 2010, 02:02:47 PM
Oh yeah you mean in the diagram that exiledarchangel posted! Yes that is what he said too.

But Kenny sent me a drawing which does feature the all pickups on option.
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Highlander on September 30, 2010, 09:59:48 AM
Rough drawing, which is why I didn't post it... pretty much exactly what Rob spec'd, using three of the four sections of the switch...
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: Basvarken on October 08, 2010, 03:22:50 PM
The father of our ex-guitarist helped me out too.

He came up with this drawing. Now even a dummy like me can do the wiring  ;)

(http://www.superfloor.net/wiring-brooks.jpg)
Title: Re: Need some help wiring my project
Post by: exiledarchangel on October 11, 2010, 12:17:20 AM
That is a 4 pole/six position switch in the diagram, I thought you had 2 pole/six position switches available only?

edit: damn, just checked again your first post, you are right. With a 4pole/6position swith, pickup combinations are endless.