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Title: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: PhilT on September 25, 2010, 10:51:55 AM
Anybody know anything about these? Can't see them on the Epi or Gibson web sites.

http://www.dawsons.co.uk/acatalog/epiphone_1960_eb-3_arctic_white_le_epiphone_club.html
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Dave W on September 25, 2010, 11:22:58 AM
Looks like it's not being offered by any US dealers yet. That listing says "34 Inch Short Scale Length" and Rock Palace says long scale. Both say set neck. If it's really long scale, then of course it's not a "true reproduction of the Gisbon SG bass." But from the location of the bridge, I suspect it's really short scale.

I'm interested in learning more.

Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Iome on September 25, 2010, 11:28:28 AM
Thats the usual Epi long scale EB3, only "special" thing is the colour. it's bigger than the original Gibson Eb3 and Eb3L
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Dave W on September 25, 2010, 12:44:11 PM
Quote from: Iome on September 25, 2010, 11:28:28 AM
Thats the usual Epi long scale EB3, only "special" thing is the colour. it's bigger than the original Gibson Eb3 and Eb3L

If the only difference is the color, then why call it a 60s model and why call it a true reproduction? The usual Epi EB3 catalog description doesn't say that.

Also, this one has a dot neck, which the usual Epi EB3 doesn't.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Chaser001 on September 25, 2010, 01:07:17 PM
The fact that it doesn't have a block inlay neck is already a plus. 
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Highlander on September 25, 2010, 01:44:56 PM
The set neck interests me... none of the regular SG Epi's are set are they...?
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: rockinrayduke on September 25, 2010, 01:50:33 PM
I had of those...white, long scale, set neck. IIRC someone around here bought it from me.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Dave W on September 25, 2010, 01:53:22 PM
Quote from: Kenny's 51st State on September 25, 2010, 01:44:56 PM
The set neck interests me... none of the regular SG Epi's are set are they...?

The regular Epi EB3 is set neck, the EB0 is bolt-on.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Highlander on September 25, 2010, 01:54:06 PM
How do they sound, Ray...?
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Dave W on September 25, 2010, 02:02:10 PM
I remember the one Ray had. But if this edition is really short scale, then it's a different animal.

Phil needs to visit a store or at least call and ask them to measure the scale length.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: uwe on September 25, 2010, 02:44:42 PM
I read somewhere that it is actually short scale and that that makes the difference. Can't see the pic here on Blackberry, but if the three point does not fall off the butt of the bass, then it is definitely short scale.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Chaser001 on September 25, 2010, 03:02:48 PM
Then it looks like this is the closest thing there has ever been to an Epi Elistist EB-3. 
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: uwe on September 25, 2010, 03:35:30 PM
Yes, and that was the closest thing to a late sixties/early seventies real EB-3 in feel, look and sound.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Daniel_J on September 25, 2010, 03:56:35 PM
I dont know what they are selling, but that picture is of a long scale Epi EB-3. Only differences are the dot neck and thumbrest. And it is definitely a photoshoped white on that.
You can see it is long scale because of the 22 fret neck, and neck to body joint at the 19th, just like the regular Epi.

Edit: I just saw they also have a cherry and ebony models, so the picture of the white one is a photoshoped black. And the cherry is a photoshoped version of the official Epi EB-3 picture in order to sports a dot neck and thumbrest.
The pics are photoshoped, but can not say if the real deal they are offering are long or short scale.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Dave W on September 25, 2010, 11:12:38 PM
I forgot, this was discussed  (http://forums.vintageguitars.org.uk/showthread.php?t=2795)at Jules' place last month, and the description on Dawsons website at that time was 30.5" scale. One member looked at it in person and said it was short scale.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Chaser001 on September 26, 2010, 12:00:16 AM
I'd love to have one of those.  Unfortunately, they seem to only be sold in the UK.  Dawson's that is selling those basses has a low rating on Amazon.  Personally, I'd probably still order from them anyway.  However, such a low rating is something to be taken into consideration. 
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Highlander on September 26, 2010, 06:08:45 AM
I presume Herr Hornung will be adding one to Ze Kollection...?

May be a differing fin but set neck...
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: uwe on September 26, 2010, 06:22:49 AM
I'd actually be more interested in a traditional (for Epi) long scale one. As regards short scale, I'm covered with my Epi Elitist which is set neck.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Highlander on September 26, 2010, 10:46:39 AM
In that case - it's a fin job... ;)
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: uwe on September 26, 2010, 11:38:53 AM
I would hope this is not quite as good as the Elitist which cost thrice as much! They had a short shelf-life, the introduction of the Gibson SG RI killed them.   
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: PhilT on September 26, 2010, 11:39:13 AM
Dealer said they expected them to be long scale, but when one actually turned up it was short scale.

Possibly Epi's marketing dept doesn't like talking to manufacturing?
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Dave W on September 26, 2010, 03:18:21 PM
It wouldn't be the first time there's been a discrepancy between the marketing department's description and what actually comes out of Epi's factories. It should be better now that they supposedly have their own Chinese facilities. Old habits die hard, I guess.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: godofthunder on September 26, 2010, 04:51:51 PM
Quote from: rockinrayduke on September 25, 2010, 01:50:33 PM
I had of those...white, long scale, set neck. IIRC someone around here bought it from me.
That would be me !
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: hollowbody on September 26, 2010, 05:18:09 PM
I had my guitar guy email Epiphone after seeing the vintageguitar thread a while back.  They of course had no idea what we were enquiring about.  It must be a European only offering.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Dave W on September 26, 2010, 11:27:59 PM
Quote from: hollowbody on September 26, 2010, 05:18:09 PM
I had my guitar guy email Epiphone after seeing the vintageguitar thread a while back.  They of course had no idea what we were enquiring about.  It must be a European only offering.

And yet this came up in my search: http://austin.craigslist.org/msg/1958673172.html (note it says short scale)

Could it have been offered to a few US stores last year?
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Daniel_J on September 27, 2010, 12:04:56 AM
Quote from: Dave W on September 26, 2010, 11:27:59 PM
And yet this came up in my search: http://austin.craigslist.org/msg/1958673172.html (note it says short scale)

Could it have been offered to a few US stores last year?

Again, from the pictures I can garantee it is a long scale because of the 22frets and neck to body joint at the 19th fret. And this one has the standard Epi trapeze inlays, only difference is the finger-rest.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: exiledarchangel on September 27, 2010, 01:30:35 AM
Seems to me its a long scale, the neck is WAY too long for a shorty.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2010, 04:16:45 AM
It's not just an Epi disease, Gibson's knowledge about what it brings out is half-assed too, especially as regards limited runs. Somehow, I can't beleive that the people at the bench decide on a daily basis whether they do a ltd run or not, so it must have something to do with available inhouse-information not being properly compiled.

That said, there is one person who is actually pretty good with Epi stuff and that is their current President. No joke. Go to the "Talk to Henry"-forum on Gibson's official site and there the Epi boss, who seems to be a real likable guy, has his own thread. And he even answers regularly.
Title: Re: Epi Club 1960 EB-3
Post by: Dave W on September 27, 2010, 08:43:01 AM
Quote from: Daniel_J on September 27, 2010, 12:04:56 AM
Again, from the pictures I can garantee it is a long scale because of the 22frets and neck to body joint at the 19th fret. And this one has the standard Epi trapeze inlays, only difference is the finger-rest.

With Epi special editions, I don't think you can guarantee anything without measuring.