Jeff Beck is 66 today and still doing exactly what he wants. He's fired and had a lot of bass players quit on him. My favorite by a slim margin was Ron Wood from 'Truth' and 'Beckola'.
very slim for me too. Wood is clearly the least technical bass player but there is something special about his distorted "lead bass" and Rod's voice together. next up is a tie between Clive Chaman the forgotten man.... and i know most of you will disagree, but the BBA album is still one of my favorite all time albums.
Ron and Rod made some great music before and during The Faces. The Every Picture Tells a Story track floors me every time I hear it, I think of it as the anti-Maggie May. Rod, Ron, Mickie Waller and Maggie Bell.
There was really nothing better in the genre at the time than BBA, or as we called them Beck, Blowfart and Apaseizure. Saw them twice, also was a fan of Vanilla Fudge.
My favs are Ronnie and Jan Hammer. Yes, he played some great Moog bass on some tracks like "Blue Wind" and the stuff on "There And Back". Not a bad drummer either (my fav Jeff drummer is Narada Michael Walden).
There's a tune called Hammerhead on JB's new CD, tribute to those days.
Clive Chaman by a long shot. I never really cared for Woody with Beck. I think he has a better guitar sense than a bass one. And my close second is probably Tim Bogert. I actually saw Beck with an unrecorded version of the Jeff Beck Group. It was Beck, Bogert, Appice, Max Middleton, and Kim Milford on vocals.
Saw that same combo. actually not bad set - some of the old with some of the not yet on the album stuff.
Man it took a long time until someone finally mentioned Tim Bogert!
I was excited upon hearing Phil Chen on "Freeway Jam" and the whole Blow By Blow record. BBA did rock too.
Bogert for me, followed by Tal
I hear no individuality in Tal at all and find her bass playing very safe and subdued, even lame at times. She sounds like a hundred other session players of the same ilk. Tim Bogert sounded like Tim Bogert. I'm not knocking her chops, it's more an attitude thing.
Interesting, I hear more attitude in her playing than just another session player. She kind of pokes and prods beck almost.
Quote from: uwe on June 25, 2010, 07:12:10 AM
I hear no individuality in Tal at all and find her bass playing very safe and subdued, even lame at times. She sounds like a hundred other session players of the same ilk. Tim Bogert sounded like Tim Bogert. I'm not knocking her chops, it's more an attitude thing.
+1. She is nice to look at though. (and I wish I had her chops....)
Wilbur Bascomb. Wired was a HUGE influence on 16 year old me. ;D Grooves galore. Tal is friggin awesome too. Just got the Ronnie Scotts DVD a few weeks ago. Killer!
my fave has to be Clive Chaman. I made my fingers bleed as a kid in S. America trying to get his licks down. Through his style of playing I eventually discovered James Jamerson. Very close second would be Ronnie...
Different styles to be sure. Also very different musical contexts. As we all know JB does not stand still for long...
Quote from: Freuds_Cat on June 25, 2010, 07:50:33 AM
Interesting, I hear more attitude in her playing than just another session player. She kind of pokes and prods beck almost.
She can play circles around me. But she's no Jeff Beck or even Ronnie Wood on bass as regards originality and don't-give-a-shit-if this-is-unexpected-now freedom of expression. On that whole recent live album with Beck I hear nothing that for even a second surprised me. It sounds all very learned to me, "Tal was best in bass class and always did her homework". When she slaps, it's neat and cute, but I don't hear any Bootsy Collins, Larry Graham or TM Stevens grime in it. When she plays fast runs, it's liquid and mechanically perfect, but there is no Chris Squire or JAE edginess to her playing. And when she plays something intricate it's not nerdy like Geddy Lee or the guy from Primus or strange like Jack Bruce. She is most likely a technically better and more versatile player than all these people and she is still very young, I'll give her that.
It's not because she is a woman, I hasten to add, I find M'shell Ndegeocello's grooves awe-inspiring.
Quote from: gweimer on June 24, 2010, 01:42:05 PM
Clive Chaman by a long shot. And my close second is probably Tim Bogert.
Agreed-
Jeff beck has really never allowed his bassist to do much, unless they are young attractive females.
Quote from: Barklessdog on June 30, 2010, 04:25:37 AM
Agreed-
Jeff beck has really never allowed his bassist to do much, unless they are young attractive females.
He certainly didnt when I saw him during the Guitar shop tour. ;D ( ie no bassist at all)
Clive, Bogert, Bascomb and Wood. Sounds like a law firm.
+1 Wilbur Bascomb .... deadly player, I think I wore out my original copy of Wired lifting his lines!
Quote from: Barklessdog on June 30, 2010, 04:25:37 AM
Jeff beck has really never allowed his bassist to do much, unless they are young attractive females.
HUH? Seems he let Ron Wood do pretty much what he wanted judging by his bass playing on Rod Stewart's solo records. Bogert was Bogert and definitely
not a young attractive female. Ronnie on the other hand may have occasionally tried to pass, especially in the Faces.
Tal.
Love the TRUTH album still tho tooo
I hate "attractive young females". Unless they ride a Flying V in the Halestorm.
Quote from: dadagoboi on June 30, 2010, 03:24:52 PM
HUH? Seems he let Ron Wood do pretty much what he wanted judging by his bass playing on Rod Stewart's solo records. Bogert was Bogert and definitely not a young attractive female. Ronnie on the other hand may have occasionally tried to pass, especially in the Faces.
Anything past Wired, (78?)
Quote from: Barklessdog on July 02, 2010, 09:45:19 AM
Anything past Wired, (78?)
By '78 JB had almost 15 yrs in the spotlight and picked bass players who complemented his playing and knew their role was to support arguably Rock's best guitar player. He enjoys having women in his band showcasing their chops. Paladino is definitely a guy who likes to play a support role, I believe he filled the bass chair before Tal. Who knows what the next guy (girl) will be like?
I remember when there was talk about Jeff Beck & Stanley Clarke starting a band in the early 80's ?, but never happened
Quote from: Barklessdog on July 02, 2010, 10:53:38 AM
I remember when there was talk about Jeff Beck & Stanley Clarke starting a band in the early 80's ?, but never happened
Yeah, I recall that, don't know what happened. JB has walked away from a lot of stuff, he's well known to commit and then bail. If it doesn't feel right to him he walks quickly without considering the consequences to his career or others'. I remember when he supposedly was in as the replacement for Mick Taylor in the Stones, that would have lasted about 3 dates. Ron Wood took the job and it was all downhill from there for him imo. JB left a Rod Stewart tour in the 80s(?) after 10 dates when he probably really needed the dough 'cause he felt dissed by Rod.
The whole Rolling Stones thing has a slightly different slant on it in his words from his Biography. Dont hold me to this completely because its a while since I read it but I think he suggested that he was lured to France during the recording of a Stones album by Jagger after being asked to help out. When he got there he hardly saw any of the Stones and when he got a whiff that they expected to join the band he hoofed it straight back to blighty.
Actually Jeff really plays a lot better with attractive girls in his band.
Quote from: Freuds_Cat on July 04, 2010, 10:37:46 PM
The whole Rolling Stones thing has a slightly different slant on it in his words from his Biography. Dont hold me to this completely because its a while since I read it but I think he suggested that he was lured to France during the recording of a Stones album by Jagger after being asked to help out. When he got there he hardly saw any of the Stones and when he got a whiff that they expected to join the band he hoofed it straight back to blighty.
My recollection of what the bio said is similar to yours, my mistake. I may have a memory of a rumor linking Beck and the Stones in RS mag but no one should ever take my word for anything without checking another source. More and more the lights are on with nobody home.
I heard somewhere that Rhonda Smith Prince's old bass player is now in Jeff's band.
Quote from: MikeyB5 on July 10, 2010, 08:31:38 AM
I heard somewhere that Rhonda Smith Prince's old bass player is now in Jeff's band.
Yep.
http://www.jeffbeck.com/comments.php?blog=43
http://www.bigozine1a.com/TRKS7/JBKlucca/JBKlucca04.mp3 (http://www.bigozine1a.com/TRKS7/JBKlucca/JBKlucca04.mp3)
"Led Boots" with Rhonda on bass (and Narada on drums!). The whole show available here:
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=541 (http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=541)
Works for me! Thanks