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Title: silverburst triumph???
Post by: hieronymous on November 27, 2009, 05:37:00 PM
Sorry if this has been posted before, but I was grazing through the Olivia's site and found this:

1979 Gibson Triumph Les Paul Bass SILVERBURST (http://www.oliviasvintageguitars.com/bass/guitars/228/)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: hieronymous on November 27, 2009, 06:17:47 PM
Just noticed - the controls are very different from a standard Triumph - two volumes, no phase switch, no 3 position tone selector switch and the input jack on is on the side of the bass, not on the top. The recent eBay 1980 one has standard controls (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Gibson-Les-Paul-Recording-Bass-Guitar-RARE-USA_W0QQitemZ330378984152QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item4cec1f3ad8#ht_623wt_1167).
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Dave W on November 27, 2009, 07:24:45 PM
I don't remember seeing that one before.

Olivia's sure seems to come up with the unusual.
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Grog on November 27, 2009, 07:25:18 PM
It seems to have a separate jack for each "Hi" & "Low" Impedance, instead of the switch. This is the same sort of setup that was on the last version of the Les Paul Recording guitar. To me, this looks modified. I'm pretty sure the jack plates on the guitar were two separate standard chrome jackplates vs one double jackplate on this silverburst. The serial number apears to be stamped unusually deep. Restamped after a refin or neck repair?  ???  ???  ???
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Basvarken on November 28, 2009, 09:17:36 AM
Very weird. The Lo-Z pickup usually have eight leads each. In different colors. I see nothing but brown wires coming out of the body. And certainly less than 16.
The pickups do look like bass Lo-Z pickups. Guitar Lo-Z pickups are smaller.

Maybe it's a custom shop creation?


Uwe go get it! :toast:
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Grog on November 28, 2009, 09:46:46 AM
On second glance, it has a transformer & the "HI" "LOW" Impedance switch, making the extra output jack more of a mystery. Somebody, either on this sight or Jules sight, posted an excellent sumary of what all four sets of leads do. The pickups can run on two leads each. They've eliminated the "Phase" switch. Don't know if one of the "Tones" is suppose to be a "Bass" control, as Witch Hat knobs never came in anything other than Volumn & Tone.
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Basvarken on November 28, 2009, 10:36:33 AM
To me it even looks like there are two impedance transformers hidden under that piece of foam.

(http://www.oliviasvintageguitars.com/products/lg/1242761079IMG_7083.JPG)





The leads on the original Lo-Z bass pickups are three coiltaps.  Maybe you're right and they used only the last coiltap?
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Grog on November 28, 2009, 10:59:59 AM
Thats what I thought, but now the two transformers are a bit puzzling. I'll have to try to trace the wires better. Maybe it's a stereo setup, with a transformer for each pickup & a DPDT Impedance switch. Can't really see the switch.............. ??? ???
Title: Uwe wake up!
Post by: Basvarken on November 29, 2009, 03:47:53 PM
Ze Kollekshön needs this bass!

Uwe where are you?
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Highlander on November 29, 2009, 04:08:36 PM
You've got three hours to find him...
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Dave W on November 29, 2009, 11:48:08 PM
I can't see Uwe paying that kind of money for this one. If only he collected for finishes!  ;D
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Barklessdog on November 30, 2009, 08:11:14 AM
Here is one that I think was/is owned by someone at TalkBass or from Jules site?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/silvertp3.jpg)
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: Basvarken on November 30, 2009, 08:23:07 AM
Yep, looks the same.

I don't think I've seen it at Jules site.
Must have been at TalkBass then, I never go there  ;)
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: uwe on November 30, 2009, 10:08:34 AM
It's beautiful, but I think its origins (and whether it is authentic) are lost in the mists of time. More than 5.000 bucks is steep for that uncertainty.
Title: Re: silverburst triumph???
Post by: exiledarchangel on November 30, 2009, 10:08:48 AM
Yep, looks the same.

I don't think I've seen it at Jules site.
Must have been at TalkBass then, I never go there  ;)

But you miss all the fun! :P