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Title: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Dave W on August 20, 2009, 01:32:38 PM
Common criminals are much too common for him (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32484098/ns/entertainment-celebrities/?gt1=43001).

All he's in for is murder, he doesn't want to associate with those dastardly criminals who are in for... uh... murder.

I'll bet he'll be more popular with his fellow inmates after they read this story.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Stjofön Big on August 20, 2009, 01:52:08 PM
That's what cocaine does to ones brains. Holy matrimony!
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: gweimer on August 20, 2009, 01:57:12 PM
Maybe he'd prefer a woman's prison.  They'd probably make him their bitch there, too.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: chromium on August 20, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
Show 'em yer mean face, Phil!   ;D

http://tinyurl.com/msfe3y
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: rahock on August 20, 2009, 02:55:25 PM
Maybe he'd prefer a woman's prison.  They'd probably make him their bitch there, too.   :thumbsup:

We are SO on the same page ;D When I read the original post I formulated a response in my head and then scrolled down the page and saw your post.
Freakin' word for word exactly what I was going to say ;D ;D  Too funny......word for freakin' word.
Rick
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on August 20, 2009, 03:34:58 PM
You guys are crackin' me up! haha haaaa
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Dave W on August 20, 2009, 04:34:26 PM
Phil's just an old Teddy Bear.

Phil's first hit -- and that's him on the right (about 1958).

Now if he would just sing this to the other inmates, I'm sure they'd warm up to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCnUsInBQws
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Highlander on August 20, 2009, 04:37:26 PM
"Look at you, over there, ripping the stuffing from my teddy-bear..."  :o

Old Alice Cooper lyrics...
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: rahock on August 20, 2009, 06:00:19 PM
Oh yeah, they a gonna warm right up to him :o
Rick
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Pilgrim on August 20, 2009, 08:39:14 PM
Actually, I think I understand some of what he's saying.  He's not a habitual career criminal like many of those in there.  He may be guilty of murder, but there are considerable social and behavioral differences between someone like Spector and the others in there. 

Unfortunately, one thing our prison system does extremely well is train everyone in prison to become a habitual criminal.  In Spector's case it doesn't matter because he'll never walk out alive.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Dave W on August 20, 2009, 09:13:01 PM
I understand what he's saying too, yet I still don't have an ounce of sympathy.

Lana Clarkson is just as dead as if she'd been killed by a habitual criminal.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Highlander on August 21, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
Amen, brother Dave...
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: rahock on August 21, 2009, 04:58:43 AM
I think everyone understands what he is saying, but if you're going to play tough guy and wave guns in peoples faces and shoot them, then you earn the right to go hang out with the other tough guys who wave guns in peoples faces and shoot them. You play.....you pay , and I could give a rats ass about your social status. If you do crap like he did, you just earned yourself a new social status.
Rick
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Dave W on August 21, 2009, 04:42:54 PM
Just had to pass this along.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a296/DimeIV/Phil_Spector_Animation-1.gif)
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: godofthunder on August 21, 2009, 05:10:20 PM
Phil's just an old Teddy Bear.

Phil's first hit -- and that's him on the right (about 1958).

Now if he would just sing this to the other inmates, I'm sure they'd warm up to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCnUsInBQws
All kidding aside I really enjoyed that live performance.......................................geeze I must be get ting old.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Lightyear on August 21, 2009, 07:18:01 PM
You, sir, are just a few short years away from looking forward to the early bird special at the Golden Coral ;D
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Pilgrim on August 22, 2009, 02:51:26 PM
I understand what he's saying too, yet I still don't have an ounce of sympathy.

Lana Clarkson is just as dead as if she'd been killed by a habitual criminal.

I'm with ya.  He dealt the hand and he has to play it out.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Highlander on August 22, 2009, 03:16:33 PM
Hopefully the rest of the guys are playing with a marked deck... ;)
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2009, 04:14:06 AM
May I raise my squeamish, liberal minority opinion here?  :gay:


More than social status, I think it is also an age thing. It's a fact of life that there are not too many 70 year old inmates with a still violent nature in their daily prison routine, while testosterone-charged thirty-year olds go mad and aggressive with it. Unless you believe that all prisons should be darwinistic survival dens where the strongest live better than the weakest, the two age groups should be sensibly kept apart in different tracts.

Phil Spector might deserve to die in prison, but he doesn't deserve to be bullied until he does. That's not a viable concept in any penal system. The state has sentenced him to prison, not to being bullied. If he spends the rest of his life tending the audio part of the prison library thinking why it was wrong to shoot Ms Clarkson then hopefully that is ample retribution for her; him being threatend by other inmates won't make her come alive either.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: the mojo hobo on August 25, 2009, 06:20:53 AM
But is he really being bullied or just fearful of it? The notorious murders mentioned by name are in his age group.  Manson is four years older than Spector, and I'll bet he's just as scary as he was 40 years ago.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: uwe on August 25, 2009, 07:15:31 AM
Admittedly, Herr Manson did not age gracefully!  :mrgreen: He is one of those rare things in real life, normally relegated to horror movies, a vicious intelligent nutcase.

I have no idea whether Herr Spector is being bullied (not that he deserves a little for it for some of his headachy productions in the past, I challenge anybody to hear all three CDs of the remastered Harrison opus "All Things Must Pass" without some Tylonol!!!), but my guess is yes. For being a celebrity who's deemed to have money and influence, for being an old man not at the height of his physical strength and for being a novice to prison gang life.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: OldManC on August 25, 2009, 09:25:10 AM
It's hard to say as I don't know California prisons other than what I've read, but I have a nephew in Utah State Prison who is housed with some of the worst offenders known in this state (contrary to what one might think, the prison in Utah is as vicious and dangerous as any other in the U.S.). He's not in the general population (his case was very high profile and he hasn't been there long). Are Phil Spector and Charles Manson even in the general population at Corcoran? I'd find that kind of surprising if they were.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: Dave W on August 25, 2009, 12:19:36 PM
He says he's in 24/7 lockdown in his 3x7 cell. And I don't see any reference to him actually being threatened. He just thinks he's better because he still doesn't see himself as a murderer. He still doesn't take responsibilty for what he did.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: OldManC on August 26, 2009, 01:06:03 AM
He still doesn't take responsibilty for what he did.

I don't know how many years he's got left but all the time he has on his hands might do the trick! Whether he meant to or not, Lana Clarkson is dead because she went home with him that night and he pulled out a gun. Maybe the fear will be a good part of his so called rehabilitation.
Title: Re: Poor, poor Phil Spector
Post by: rahock on August 26, 2009, 11:19:09 AM
Imagine my best Walter Brennan cowboy movie voice (which is actually pretty good) " I reckon we best give 'em a fair trial and hang 'em".
Rick