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Title: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on March 28, 2009, 04:42:21 PM
Today I attended a vintage guitar fair where I bought a rather unfortunate victim of eighties "let's make it look metal" ethic. Believe it or not but this WAS an early seventies Ibanez Les Paul Custom copy with the lawsuit "open book" headstock. It has three dimarzio pickups and again was fitted with "Everything-and-the-kitchen-sink-is-also-included" switching options. But for 75 Euro's I don't consider it a bad deal, there's a lot of usable parts on this one.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1003.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1004.jpg)

Well I removed that Junk from the Ibanez' top revealing THIS.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1008.jpg)

As you can see it had a couple of home applied (rattle can) re-finishes which also covered the body bindings. Also, as I suspected, the middle pickup is not original and the hole is rather crudely made.

Now if I were crazy...
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1009.jpg)

Nah, I'm gonna fix this puppy up properly.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: pbrocker56 on March 28, 2009, 11:21:02 PM
I actually like the red and bare wood, almost reminds me of a very worn cherry burst, but with spray paint, of course.

What finishes are you thinking?
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Chris P. on March 29, 2009, 03:01:29 AM
Good luck with repairing it! I always love three pick up SGs and LPs. And if you ever sell the MelodyMaker, PM me, cos my girlfriend maybe wants one!
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Saf on March 29, 2009, 06:04:39 PM
Great thing, I saw it do it was on the stand from de witte?
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: OldManC on March 30, 2009, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: Blazer on March 28, 2009, 04:42:21 PM
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1009.jpg)

If it were mine I'd put it back together as-is. I might fill the smaller (un-used) toggle holes (and put a proper toggle switch up top), but other than that I think it would look killer just like that. Is that a bolt neck? Not that it matters, just curious. One of the best Ibanez LPs I ever heard was a bolt neck from the late 70's.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on April 03, 2009, 12:37:45 PM
Today I started the stripping.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1010.jpg)

You guys wouldn't believe me if I tell you that I came across four colors, note also that there's no Mahogany anywhere to be found...
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1012.jpg)

There's some of the original finish still left within the cutaway, the previous owner apparently couldn't remove it from that spot.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1011.jpg)

The previous owner glued in the neck using two component resin, the same stuff used to restore cars with, as a result it sat way too high in the pocket, but chopping away that junk rectified that.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1014.jpg)
Nice snug join, just as intended.

Next on the agenda: fill that middle rout and the holes where the mini toggles sat and bring the guitar body away to have it professionally finished in black.

You know, I bought this guitar at the stand of a shop in Amsterdam, I'm seriously thinking of bringing it back to the shop after the Restoration is complete, I wonder if they would recognize it.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: sniper on April 04, 2009, 05:10:02 AM
nice binding beneath the contact paper
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on April 04, 2009, 11:14:51 AM
A little update here.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1017.jpg)
I routed out the space between the pickups and filled it with a solid piece of maple that I carved to match the carving of the body, I then routed the whole thing for two humbuckers.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1017-2.jpg)
I know, it doesn't look like much but when the humbuckers are in you don't see the mismatching pickup routs.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1017-3.jpg)
And I also filled the holes where the mini switches sat. and sanded the whole thing smooth, you won't see the things after the guitar is finished in black.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1015.jpg)
And here's a little preview on what it will look like finished.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Pilgrim on April 05, 2009, 11:46:28 AM
Filling in that extra pickup rout was a great idea.  I thought it looked very odd before that - and you did beautiful work!
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: shadowcastaz on April 05, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
Thats a great job  putting the block in the mid pup space.
Be careful with the plugs your putin in the top !. The plugs are end grain or from a dowel ,I assume .  They will move or expand  as weather /humidity changes and you will see  round circles under your finish. . This is due to the grain in the top being  horizontal and the plug being verticle.
Id recommend  you get a plug cutter  the same size as the holes and cut some plugs from the face of a maple board and line the grain up with the  top. . the wood will move in the same direction , in theory, and less chance of   the plugs showing in your finish . I have also taken  plugs from under the pups  to use the same wood.
I can send you a pic of a headstock I plugged and re drilled.  In the light you can see the plugs plain as day . . I do need to re paint it so its gonna get the face grain treatment to eliminate the circles.M
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: drbassman on April 06, 2009, 01:00:02 PM
I agree, good idea, it assures nice tight, straight lines.  Looking good!
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: shadowcastaz on April 06, 2009, 01:36:15 PM
Ypu will kick yourself in the ass every time light reflects on your controls are remind you of those fuggin holes.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on April 07, 2009, 12:27:26 PM
Well I put it together to test the pickups and to check if I need to lower the neck in the pocket.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1020.jpg)
The Pickups work flawlessly but the string spacing of the bridge is a little too narrow.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1019.jpg)
And this picture shows that I have to set the neck in lower, because the bridge needs to be extremely high to make this guitar playable.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1018.jpg)
So now it's ready to be primed and painted.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on April 17, 2009, 10:02:53 AM
Well with the body being painted there was not really much I could do on this project, so I started to look around for replacement tuners, seeing as how the guitar came with a mish-mash of Schallers which didn't exactly made the guitar look good.

So I went to my local store and was scouting their pile of spare parts when all of a sudden a box caught my eye...
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1034.jpg)
Okay, new old stock thirty year old Ibanez Tuners, and I need tuners for a 33 year old Ibanez, it didn't take me long to put two and two together. And when I opened the box my smile got even wider.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1035.jpg)
They were in the color I was looking for, how perfect do you want destiny to become?

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1036.jpg)
I still have to do some repairs on chipping and flaking of the finish of the headstock but the tuners make a perfect fit here.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Dave W on April 17, 2009, 12:33:02 PM
Serendipity!
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Barklessdog on April 17, 2009, 01:29:12 PM
Nice job
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Pilgrim on April 17, 2009, 10:13:04 PM
Fly straight to Lost Wages to make major bets.  You're on a roll!
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on May 11, 2009, 07:10:54 PM
Well I got a phone call today telling me that the painting of the body is done, and I'll retrieve it later this week. (My schedule is a bit tedious here)

In the meantime, I did some work on the neck, I filled up the chips and dings in the finish with Black shellac and buffed the thing to a shine and then I installed the tuners, it makes for a very classy look.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on May 13, 2009, 02:24:20 PM
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1067.jpg)
Well here's the body in black, the white residue you see is from the wet sanding.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1068.jpg)
And from another angle, all whats needs to be done is spray it with a yellow tint lacquer to give it that vintage tint. And then I have to wet sand it again and polish it.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: godofthunder on May 13, 2009, 04:19:10 PM
WOW ! Really nice work on that !
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on May 15, 2009, 08:11:09 PM
Well I got the body back home, buffed it to a shine and started assembling it.

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1076.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1078.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1077.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1079.jpg)

All I need to do now is install the pots, wire it all up, install a pickguard and I'm done.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: SKATE RAT on May 15, 2009, 09:23:38 PM
great job ,Blaze! now it an Iblazernez
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Daniel_J on May 16, 2009, 08:00:32 AM
Awesome! Looking very classy now. And those tuners are really sweet!
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: godofthunder on May 16, 2009, 10:50:56 AM
That guitar is lucky you found it !
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on May 16, 2009, 11:35:41 AM
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1084.jpg)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e22/guitarman91/100_1081.jpg)

It's done.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Highlander on May 16, 2009, 03:36:25 PM
With that "lightining bolt" reflection in one of those shots she should be known as the "I-Blaze" (pronounced "I-bur-laze") Laze-Paul

10/10 - A* - well done lad...

Now then... does she play as good as she looks...?
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Pilgrim on May 16, 2009, 04:09:32 PM
Damn.  Simply damn.  BEAUTIFUL!!!!
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: drbassman on May 17, 2009, 07:28:27 AM
Very nice!  I love rehabbed guitars and basses.  It's really fun to bring them back to life!  Well done. 
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: shadowcastaz on May 17, 2009, 06:34:06 PM
Nice Job!
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Chris P. on May 19, 2009, 06:13:07 AM
Great job!!
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Saf on May 25, 2009, 03:16:45 AM
So never even realized that that was possible when I saw it hanging in the stand at the vintage guitar fair. What a hell of a nice job, you did.
Title: Re: An Ibanez fixer upper Les Paul...
Post by: Blazer on May 25, 2009, 04:41:59 AM
Quote from: SKATE RAT on May 15, 2009, 09:23:38 PM
great job ,Blaze! now it an Iblazernez

Why do you think I named myself "Blazer" in the first place?

(http://www.baggs.de/music/assets/images/Ibanez_Blazer_81.JPG)