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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Barklessdog on March 26, 2009, 02:18:34 PM

Title: Dingwall T bird
Post by: Barklessdog on March 26, 2009, 02:18:34 PM
First Lull now Doingwall is considering making a T bird

http://www.dingwallguitars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1074

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/super_t_sketches_119.jpg)

From Sheldon Dingwall
Quotehis is something I've toyed with for a couple of years but haven't got it quite nailed down. If we were to see enough demand, I'd pick it back up once we got a few more past-due projects completed.

Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: chromium on March 26, 2009, 02:29:30 PM
That's sweet looking!  I like the headstock on the first one.

I've never played a fanned-fret anything before - is it hard to adjust to?

Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: Barklessdog on March 26, 2009, 02:43:06 PM
If anyone has real interest they should join the forum to prod him to build it.
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: bassvirtuoso on March 26, 2009, 02:57:23 PM
I want a slanty-fret bass too....I like the idea.
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: TBird1958 on March 26, 2009, 02:59:30 PM

As of today..............3/26
I like this better  ;D

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/Hills_TBass.jpg)
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: bassvirtuoso on March 26, 2009, 03:20:42 PM
Yeah but Mark, that looks totally unplayable!
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: gweimer on March 26, 2009, 04:10:03 PM
I'll be on that like white on rice.  I need to jump on that forum and make the case for a 4-string.   8)
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: uwe on March 26, 2009, 05:34:56 PM
I'd be interested. That fanned concept appeals hugely to me. A stiff E with a soft D and G and a medium stiff A ... pure lust!
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: rockinrayduke on March 26, 2009, 05:38:07 PM
If it plays and sounds as good as his Jazz bass it'll be a killer. Glad to see the Bird on builder's minds.
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: uwe on March 26, 2009, 05:39:54 PM
I'd want it fretless though - I'm a sucker for punishment! ; - )
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: godofthunder on March 26, 2009, 05:44:07 PM
Quote from: TBird1958 on March 26, 2009, 02:59:30 PM
As of today..............3/26
I like this better  ;D

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/Hills_TBass.jpg)
Love the color !
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: hollowbody on March 26, 2009, 06:01:21 PM
When I was in school my roommate built a fanned fret guitar. It actually was easier to bar chord on.  I'd like to do a fanned fret bass someday - 32" to 34".

The Thunderbird body is a perfect match for the fanned frets!
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: jmcgliss on March 26, 2009, 09:29:29 PM
YES! That's the fanned fret shape that speaks to me.
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: Dave W on March 26, 2009, 10:40:46 PM
To each his own. I'll take normal scale length any day.
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: Chris P. on March 27, 2009, 12:53:44 AM
Mark: That bass has no strings. Or is it made to play Guitar Hero and Rock Band?
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: gweimer on March 27, 2009, 01:12:53 AM
Quote from: Dave W on March 26, 2009, 10:40:46 PM
To each his own. I'll take normal scale length any day.

If I hadn't done the Bettie Page fanfret project, I would agree with you.  It really has been an amazing bass.  It may look like a Fender, but with the mahogany body, it has a lot of Gibson personality.  Imagine a bass with the low end of a Thunderbird, and the high end of an EB-3.
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: FrankieTbird on March 27, 2009, 03:51:33 AM
What's the point? ???
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: uwe on March 27, 2009, 04:19:39 AM
The point is that each string has a in theory a different optimal scale though what is optimal is of course also a matter of taste. Me, I like short scale on D and G, but a relatively tight E, hence my preference there for either long or even extra long scale (from my personal experience, however, the D string on an extra long scale suffers because it becomes too tight). The slanted or fanned frets on a Dingwall are not for show, they are a consequence from the fact that each string has a different scale on them. Those instruments should be more accurately referred to as "multi-scale".

It's not the novelty look that intrigues me, it's the combo of a tight E with a very bendable G string.
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: Barklessdog on March 27, 2009, 05:41:20 AM
As Uwe pointed out the fan fret design actually works pretty well for the tbird upper access issues without compromising the body design.

Nice to see you here Jim, hope things are picking up for you.
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: FrankieTbird on March 27, 2009, 06:36:14 AM
Why not just tailor each individual sting guage to your preference?
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: uwe on March 27, 2009, 07:30:18 AM
It's not the same thing (to me). I prefer a soft thick string to a soft thin one. The sound of a thin string just isn't the same. The harmonics change too with a different scale (not with a different gauge).
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: bassvirtuoso on March 27, 2009, 08:02:37 AM
Think anyone could talk Sheldon into using Lull's pickups instead of his own? I'm doubting it since he makes all of his own pickups, but then again he does use Aguilar preamps (albeit modified).
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: Barklessdog on March 27, 2009, 08:20:31 AM
I dont see why not since they are basically custom instruments anyway
Title: Re: Dingwall T bird
Post by: Dave W on March 27, 2009, 10:03:52 AM
I understand the point of it, I just like things better with every string the same scale length. I don't buy into the notion that there's an optimum scale length for each string tuning. And I don't like the aesthetics either.

That's why I'm glad we have choices.