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Gear Discussion Forums => Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs => Topic started by: godofthunder on January 03, 2009, 06:10:52 AM
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Here is the new saw for the shop, I have a 12" bandsaw out in the carriage house shop, bought of craig's list for 50 bucks. it's not bad but i wanted something nicer for the basement shop, i started looking at 10" table top models but i came home with this ! http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=59964-70-28-276&detail=&lpage=none Great for resawing and cutting out body blanks !
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nice scott
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'Meet the new saw, same as the old saw' Pete Townshend already sang...
There was something going on about Blazer posting too much guitar pics in this bass forum, but I guess it even worse to post about new machinery.
But okay, you started this so you can get it! Here's my coffee maker!
(http://www.sunbeamhospitality.com/resources/images/products/3278-500-600/3278int_xlg.jpg)
:mrgreen:
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Chris, I'm trying to figure out how your coffeemaker is involved in repair or building. Doesn't look like it saws wood... do you put powdered aninline dye in the filter basket and brew tinted finishes? :P ;)
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Of course I was kidding;)
But really: I can't do nothing without no coffee machine. (I still love Americans and their double and triple negations) I need it to post here, I need it to play bass. So this coffee machine is very important:)
Coffee is my only addiction. Well, the only I admit;)
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Nice Saw Scott,
I don't see anything wrong with getting a little excited about shop machinery, I've got a Delt jointer from the same series ( also from Lowes ) comes in pretty handy.
Chris,
Ummm, well, uh, nice coffee maker......does it make a really nice cup of coffee, what's its' capacity? 8-10 cups? I mean it looks really nice and everything but Scotts' saw ( or my jointer for that matter ) would win in any "appliance" war! Although I doubt either one of us wants coffee spilled on our.................................................................
Scott ( BassVI )
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I inherited my dad's 1954 Shopsmith Mark V a few years ago. It still works like a charm, and I can order any piece for it from Shopsmith. A while back I picked up a bandsaw for it off Ebay - it had been in the same garage as a small fire and needed some cleanup, but works fine.
When you need a bandsaw, there's nothing as good as one! They are great tools.
With the Shopsmith, I have a nice table saw, drill press and disc sander. It's also a lathe and horizontal boring machine before you add on accessories, but I don't normally use those functions. This is NOT a new saw - it's a very old saw that has never become outdated. Mine doesn't have the blade guard on it because in 1954 such things hadn't been thought of. I value my fingers and am careful to keep them out of the way.
Here's the interesting thing - I have the original receipt for the Shopsmith, bought at Carr Hardware in Ames Iowa in 1954 for $276 with the optional casters. The same setup today retails new for $3000. Go figure.
(http://www.shopsmith.com/markvsite/images/AnvMarkVGlamour6.gif)
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I've got a mix of Jet and Delta stationary tools. When it comes to handheld power tools, I've got one or more of just about everything except Festool and Crapsman.
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Very nice Scott. I've got along list of stuff I want before I retire. that's a nice saw for sure!
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That's like the bandsaw we have at our shop. Had it for 20 years and still going strong.
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I have the Jet version of the same design - which they ripped off from Delta. Both companies make a riser block kit that increases your resaw capibility by 6" ( and who wouldn't like to have an extra 6" :P) - last I looked the kit was about $50.
There's a great book called The Bandsaw Book that I picked up years ago that really helped me get my saw dialed in - it was well worth the money.
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Calling it a ripoff is a bit harsh considering that Delta's design was a copy of a Walker-Turner. 8) Jet did start out 30 years ago making Delta clones but the models today aren't the same. I have a newer (2003) Jet 14" and it's a lot sturdier and more accurate than my old Delta. The newer Deltas are much improved too.
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My understanding, FWIW, coming from several folks in the bidness, was that a bunch of Delta engineers broke away and formed or went to Jet - I could very easily be wrong but a lot of Jets early stuff is a close match to the then current Delta models. I have a 10" contractor tablesaw and the 14" open stand band saw - both of which I have really run hard without a complaint ;D 10 years ago, when I bought these, you could save well over a $100 to go with Jet - not so the case now. :sad:
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That's not what happened. Delta was still owned by Rockwell back then (late 70s), and Jet had no engineers at all. They were strictly an importer. They just took US-made machines and had them copied in Taiwan.
Times certainly have changed. Pentair bought Delta and Porter Cable in the early 80s, then sold them to Black & Decker/DeWalt about 5 years ago. Meanwhile, Jet bought Powermatic, Performax and Wilton, then got bought out by a Swiss holding company (WMH Tool Group). And would you believe that most of the woodworking machinery lines of both parent companies are now made in the same Chinese factory? The factory is GeeTech -- look at their customers at the bottom of this page: http://www.geetech.com.tw/sp.html
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Well, they have to build something in the prison factories ;D ;D Might as well be power tools.
If you really start looking at the large power tools it's not hard to see that they have many similar components and assembly methods.
I'm not too surprised at the Jet thing though - assbackards engineering strikes again!
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I shudder to think what Herr Dasson's new contraption might do in the hands of someone thus disposed ... just imagine a brandnew white TBird body, innocent and virgin, the saw begins to hum, an evil smile ... :-X :-X :-X
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i think the bass looks happy with it's new life ;) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/IMG_4460.jpg) Here is a better shot note the Badass bridge and deep cutaway, still gotta get rid of that black plastic pup ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/IMG_4465.jpg)
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The saw is good, the saw brings joy, have no fear. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/IMG_4323.jpg)
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Amen, saws are good! The bass looks great!
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I have the same saw ,but oldr by about 15 yrs. You will love it!M
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Amen, saws are good! The bass looks great!
Thanks Bill ! I really love this bass, my main stage bass at the moment. Best of both worlds for me has the feel of my 60's NRs with out the fear of taking them to clubs and festivals. Sound wise the Dimarzio model G though ugly really delivers. This one is a 4 lead pickup so you can split the coil, I installed a mini toggle so I can go from full bore to something a little cleaner/brighter. In full humbucking mode it sounds like a Thunderbird on steroids, split the coil and the bass sounds remarkably vintage Thunderbird. The bass balances quite well for those worried about neck dive. I have a Lindy Fralin Bass bucker that is going into the next one I build. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/IMG_5194.jpg)
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"The saw is good, the saw brings joy, have no fear."
Quite. And he sawed that it was good. Sawed of(f) at least.
I sawed that out myself. ;D
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That is one of the best uses of a saw I ever saw! Beautiful bass! (I agree, ya gotta lose the black PU cover.)
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Well I have the saw all together (thanks for the lift Bill) and tested it yesterday on some 1 1/2 mahogany. The saw cut quickly and cleanly, very stable very little vibration. I love the 14" throat the main reason I went with this saw. I was a little worried about the 3/4 horse power motor having enough power to cut through thick stock, it handled the mahogany with ease, how it fairs with ash and maple I will be interested in seeing. The only thing I don't like about the saw are the cheap latches for the covers on the blade housing. At $368.00 I think this saw is a bargain and a good machine for those of use who want to build basses.
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As long as the saw is aligned and tensioned right and your blade is in good shape, it ought to be just fine with ash, maple and even harder woods.
If you buy the height extension and try to resaw 12" stock, then you might need a motor upgrade.
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As long as the saw is aligned and tensioned right and your blade is in good shape, it ought to be just fine with ash, maple and even harder woods.
If you buy the height extension and try to resaw 12" stock, then you might need a motor upgrade.
Yeah I was thinking upgrading the motor might be a option down the road.
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You'll be surprised at how much better your new saw will cut once you ditch the stock blade ;D Another thing to you can do to tweak it is do replace the guide blocks with some after market replacements - I think the ones I used were called Cool Blocks or something to that effect.
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Getting rid of the stock blade had been on my mind since I bought it, though I was pleased with the way it cut on my test piece. Thanks for the tip about the guides.
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Two new pieceshere: got my 10" Craftsman table saw Friday and the buffing arbor will arrive Monday. Things are shaping up in the shop.
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Cool blocks: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=16850
I don't know if you have a Rockler or Woodcraft in your area - they're quite the toy stores. :)
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I've never used the cool blocks and never had a problem with shortened blade life or overheating.
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I just found out there is a Woodcraft store in town over Christmas. I walked through with my wife and she had to drag me out screaming and kicking. I'm gonna sneak over there on a lunch hour sometime soon! SOme of the prices can be high, so you do have be an astute shopper.
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I love that store but I feel like they have you over a barrel with the prices. Even their sale prices seem steep.
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Woodcraft is high on some things, right in line on others. There are better and less expensive places to buy certain things. There are even a couple of online merchants who offer a discount to members of a certain woodworking forum. If you want details PM or email me.
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I only buy specialty items that I need locally at Rockler or Woodcraft - most of wheat I want I can get on line. Some things I buy come at at high price - like Hock plane blades and the like - they're pricey everywhere you can buy them.
Amazon seems to be the place to for most tools now - especially if you are a power buyer and get free shipping.