I think the buy-it-now is pretty good here. Doesn't look broke, and an ok case.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1953-Gibson-EB1-bass-with-original-case_W0QQitemZ300278805179QQihZ020QQcategoryZ118984QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
The asking price does seem to be lower than what I've seen in the past couple of years. Don't know if $5,000 is ever reasonable.
It really looks beat up
I don't see that really, although granted it is not mint. It has the original parts, finish, and case. It doesn't look cracked. Not mint, but dings and checking don't classify it as beat. Not Relic status by any stretch. I still think a 53-58 EB1 for $5gs or less in comparisson to the asking and selling prices over the last few years is good.
Looks like tons of little lacquer checks. Some guys love that. I don't. Still, it's just excessive lacquer aging. I wouldn't call it beat up either.
That is probably the only Gibson bass that is ugly in my opinion. I don't understand why these basses are that expensive and why someone is willing to pay that money for that bass. I would really prefer a Hofner viola bass or even the Epiphone viola bass which looks really good (and sounds good too).
Can someone explain the charm of this bass to me? I don't see it.
Age, rarity, the fact that it was the first violin bass, and it has the Gibson name on the headstock.
Rarity alone makes it worth a lot even if you don't like the looks or tone. Old Hofners are expensive enough, but they're a dime a dozen compared to the 1953-58 EB-1. Plus a lot of old Hofners were user-built from parts kits.
The EB-1 appeals to me very much. I suspect people who aren't interested in them are maybe turned off by the old fashioned look. Personally, though, there are few vintage basses that would interest me more than a Gibson EB-1. Obviously, the fact that Jack Bruce played one at the Cream reunion concerts only added to the mystique. If Gibson reissued the EB-1 for around $2,000 or so, I'd definitely buy one.
I don't like the violin look either, but a fifties EB-1 sounds like no other Gibson bass with that hysterically overwound single coil (the late sixties reissue with the mudbucker included). The bass belies its un-rock looks, it is one fat chunk of maho with a very raw and assertive sound, pummeling mids that cut through, not too much, but certainly sufficient bass and moderate (but audible) treble. It is really fun to play and you can "take no prisoners" with it.
A Höfner 500/1 (a bass I like and which offers a one-of-a-kind, but totally different sound too) sounds and feels nothing like an EB-1. Where the Höfner goes "plonk!", the EB-1 goes "plrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ..." and if truth be told then the fine German product handles like a flimsy toy in comparison to the yank maho stalwart.
Uwe
Quote from: barend on December 10, 2008, 05:23:26 PM
That is probably the only Gibson bass that is ugly
There were some pretty serious sins in the 1980s...
Ok, Jules, why not be frank about it? What you mean is probably this, right? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_2194.jpg
Old EBs are more about collecting/investing. 5K used to be a lot for one of these, but it is looking more reasonable now, though still hardly a deal!
If I wanted a violin-shaped bass I would buy a new Chinese Hòfner. Great fun for little money.
Quote from: EvilLordJuju on December 11, 2008, 05:37:57 AM
There were some pretty serious sins in the 1980s...
Ok, Jules, why not be frank about it? What you mean is probably this, right? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_2194.jpg
ok, you got me...these are even more ugly!
Well, since I've had 2 of the Epi EB-1 RI's, I guess I'll chime in. My first one was great, but it had a lot to do with the pickup I dropped into it (custom Lollar pickup). The appeal is pretty much the look of the bass, without the hollow body. I happen to think they're pretty cool, and would take one over the EB-0 anyday.
To somewhat parrot Uwe, comparing a 50s EB1 to a Hofner, the 70s reissue, the Epi copy of this, the Epi/Rogue/Turser/Chinese copy of a Hofner or even a Klira, is beyond comparing Apples to Oranges. Its like comparing apples to a written description of an apple. The shape is probably the least relevant attribute when approaching these as a bass. The 50s pup is tonally not much like later humbuckers although it packs similar power. The body is a MASSIVE chunk of mahogany as is the neck, where the profile is unlike any other Gibson bass with the exception of the very first EB-2s. They are, like Faberge eggs, and amazing piece of work that only a few have ever had the pleasure of messing with. If run of the mill EB2Ds could start trading hands over the $2k mark, that is pretty good for a non broken or cobbed real 50s one.
Quotewhere the profile is unlike any other Gibson bass with the exception of the very first EB-2s.
You mean they are like baseball bats?
Chunky. Maybe Telecaster Bass-ish. About part way between the top of where you tape to the leading edge on a Louisville Slugger oval.