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Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: Dave W on March 26, 2025, 10:42:37 PM

Title: The return of Tobias
Post by: Dave W on March 26, 2025, 10:42:37 PM
Tobias instruments were trailblazers in the bass world. Now they're back. (https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/bass-guitars/gibson-tobias-bass-guitars-2025)
Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: gearHed289 on March 27, 2025, 07:37:34 AM
Seems like a good idea. At these prices, I wonder where they're manufactured?

Gibson Tobias page (https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Collection/tobias-bass-guitars?srsltid=AfmBOorT2stTg896y92hELHK6ARbIwxQPC6vhGGvI-QCufql_JduRjDd)
Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: Son of Dave W on March 27, 2025, 10:30:20 AM
Quote from: gearHed289 on March 27, 2025, 07:37:34 AMSeems like a good idea. At these prices, I wonder where they're manufactured?


According to some TB threads I saw, apparently Indonesia, but I don't see any concrete proof there.
Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: Son of Dave W on March 27, 2025, 10:40:00 AM
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ClassicV--tobias-classic-v-5-string-bass-guitar-natural look at the back of headstock photo.

Apparently made at the Samick factory where Epi and I think I saw Kramer mentioned.
Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: Dave W on March 28, 2025, 02:00:22 AM
At those prices, I would guess Korea. That's still Samick headquarters.
Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: gearHed289 on March 28, 2025, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Son of Dave W on March 27, 2025, 10:40:00 AMhttps://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ClassicV--tobias-classic-v-5-string-bass-guitar-natural look at the back of headstock photo.

Apparently made at the Samick factory where Epi and I think I saw Kramer mentioned.

Cool, I was hoping for a back of headstock shot. Samick makes some fine instruments. I have an acoustic guitar and a mini bass with their name on them.
Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: Son of Dave W on March 28, 2025, 02:09:34 PM
Quote from: Dave W on March 28, 2025, 02:00:22 AMAt those prices, I would guess Korea. That's still Samick headquarters.

True, but the Sweetwater back of headstock shot says "Indonesia".

Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: Dave W on March 30, 2025, 02:18:16 AM
Quote from: Son of Dave W on March 28, 2025, 02:09:34 PMTrue, but the Sweetwater back of headstock shot says "Indonesia".



D'oh!

Every Tobias in their inventory says Indonesia. Guess that settles it.

I notice that the over-$2K neck throughs all say that they won't be restocked, so maybe these are old stock.
Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: ajkula66 on March 30, 2025, 07:34:11 PM
Quote from: Dave W on March 30, 2025, 02:18:16 AMI notice that the over-$2K neck throughs all say that they won't be restocked, so maybe these are old stock.

My understanding is that these are some kind of a test run. Test for what exactly, I have no clue but one and done. Not old stock though, evident if you look at the serials which give 2024 as the production year.
Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: Alanko on March 31, 2025, 04:40:33 AM
The slow creep of Tobias from boutique brand to budget 'Toby' basses from Epiphone, courtesy of the Gibson buyout, is a bit bizarre. I think Tobias himself cannot use his own name on instruments now, hence MTD basses?

Still, my Lakland Hollowbody was apparently part designed by Michael Tobias, who has apparently consulted on other designs over the years, so presumably everybody is happy!


Thru-necked fancy wood basses with Bartolinis and 18-volt preamps are about the opposite of my taste in basses, but these do look rather nice.
Title: Re: The return of Tobias
Post by: Son of Dave W on March 31, 2025, 09:55:19 AM
Quote from: Alanko on March 31, 2025, 04:40:33 AMI think Tobias himself cannot use his own name on instruments now, hence MTD basses?
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Thru-necked fancy wood basses with Bartolinis and 18-volt preamps are about the opposite of my taste in basses, but these do look rather nice.

You would be correct, he sold the name/IP to Gibson, I read somewhere waaaay back when that at the time he was taken care of pretty well by the deal.

And they do look pretty nice.  I'm not sure about 2K+ US for a made in Indonesia bass, but I wouldn't mind trying one out.  I had a chance to play a gig once with a pre-Gibson Classic 6, and outside of the brain seizing mid-song from playing a 6, it played like butter and sounded great in a mix.