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These days, I'm a big fan of Canada.
It's spring break , this is the US Customs at the Toronto airport. It would normally be jammed
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That makes me an even BIGGER fan of Canada.
Definitely a fan of Canada right now.
We have always had a strong relationship with the US , that is now gone. At least while Trump is in power.
But there's this question ... why would he even entertain the idea of trying to annex Canada (his excuse for using tariffs) when it's so full of Fentanyl and immigrants?
Quote from: morrow on March 12, 2025, 09:26:24 AMBut there's this question ... why would he even entertain the idea of trying to annex Canada (his excuse for using tariffs) when it's so full of Fentanyl and immigrants?
You should keep in mind that there is NO logical connection between his individual actions, and even less between his statements and the eventual actions.
I always thought Canada as kind of a neat mix of the best aspects and traits of the UK, Scandinavia & the US (+ some France, naturellement!) combined. Ok, so they had rock bands with screechy vocals, strange meters and Ayn Rand lyrics, but why alienate them of all people?
I could never listen to Rush , but I love the band.
Quote from: morrow on March 12, 2025, 11:45:09 AMI could never listen to Rush , but I love the band.
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(totally kidding) Now, according to Herr Uwe, I must go read Atlas Shrugged four times while listening to "YYZ" on endless repeat for my internet forum decorum violation.
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(totally kidding) Now, according to Herr Uwe, I must go read Atlas Shrugged four times while listening to "YYZ" on endless repeat for my internet forum decorum violation.
Alas!, Keith,
and the meek shall inherit the earth.Elon Musk is probably one of those people that never outgrew
Atlas Shrugged - I always had a hunch that they must still be hiding somewhere.
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves Orcs."
John Rogers
Now , I live way off , out on the coast in Nova Scotia. The edge of the planet. No major industry , low population density , no great mineral deposits ... we are not what he's apparently after. I doubt Trump will be sending troops out this way.
Unless he's adding lobsters to his list.
With Trudeau stepping down we have a new Liberal leader , the Conservative candidate is somewhat modelled on the MAGA ideal , I do not want to see that happen here. The new Liberal leader , Carney , is an economist , and seems to realize economic decisions affect people. He seems to have some compassion. I think he'll take the upcoming election. He will stand up to Trump. So I think he's about to become the right guy at the right time.
We'll see soon enough.
Quote from: uwe on March 12, 2025, 01:09:50 PM"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves Orcs."
John Rogers
I saw where that was going about seven words in :mrgreen:
Quote from: morrow on March 12, 2025, 01:14:59 PMNow , I live way off , out on the coast in Nova Scotia. The edge of the planet. No major industry , low population density , no great mineral deposits ... we are not what he's apparently after. I doubt Trump will be sending troops out this way.
Unless he's adding lobsters to his list.
With Trudeau stepping down we have a new Liberal leader , the Conservative candidate is somewhat modelled on the MAGA ideal , I do not want to see that happen here. The new Liberal leader , Carney , is an economist , and seems to realize economic decisions affect people. He seems to have some compassion. I think he'll take the upcoming election. He will stand up to Trump. So I think he's about to become the right guy at the right time.
We'll see soon enough.
I generally completely abstain from discussing politics online whatsoever, but without going any further, this entire situation with Canada has me scratching my head.
Quote from: Son of Dave W on March 12, 2025, 02:10:42 PMI generally completely abstain from discussing politics online whatsoever, but without going any further, this entire situation with Canada has me scratching my head.
Yep, I was reluctant to comment even as much as I did. This is the most dysfunctional situation I've ever seen for the US.
I have kept out also, but I will say something. Current management of the U.S is to run it like a business. A business managed by the means of fear.
Correction: Like a
family business. Which never works in the long run with other businesses either.
When you have to answer to a powerful supervisory board or majority shareholders, you need a different skill set.
The higher the monkey climbs ...
If it weren't for the cold weather, I would have moved to Canada long before the orange sh*tgibbon got into politics. I played Canadian Music Week in Toronto in 95 and 97 and fell in love with the place. Vacationed there a couple of times as a result. Been a long time. I should head back up there some time.
The thought that comes to mind for me is this:
If I owned a business with 20 people working in it, and I thought one of them was stealing money, would I fire all 20 and then decide what to do next?
Hell, no.
I'd research the situation, study the result and take action where I could do so without causing a major halt in the business process.
The current situation does not reflect businesslike behavior in ANY respect.
The most colossaly stupid move of all is to start your term by deliberately attacking and alienating your allies.
Yes, that caught us somewhat by surprise, not to mention our Danish neighbors to the North. :rimshot:
But we are where we are and I always wanted a nuclear bomb arsenal of our own just in case.
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That "Roman Salute" has become all popular again, wie ich gehört habe. I wouldn't attach any greater meaning though, I'm sure there is nothing to it.
Quote from: Dave W on March 13, 2025, 10:35:05 PMThe most colossally stupid move of all is to start your term by deliberately attacking and alienating your allies.
Absolutely! There is no possible benefit to doing that.
Today an article in the paper mentioned that the federal student loan site was down for hours, so kids couldn't get at the FAFSA financial aid forms. Those forms aren't used just for federal aid requests, they are used for ALL financial aid at ALL higher ed institutions. Why is the site down? Because of firings at the Dept of Ed. So we're starting to see the internal process of government fail. It won't be long before we see a lot more of this.
I will try and desist from sharing further thoughts about this.
I honestly believe that - other than maybe Afghanistan regarding girls and women and Cambodia when trying to create their stone-age communism under Pol Pot in the 70s - the US is the only country in the world with an administration to brag about cutting down on education. It's friggin' dystopian.
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My dad was a plant construction engineer for General Motors and often worked as an expat on their international sites, the battle against red tape was not alien to him and he would curse about it. But I'll always remember one piece of advice he gave me: "It's all too easy to rant about bureaucracy and government employees ... until you have to get things done in a country that doesn't have them. Then you are really stumped."
Quote from: uwe on March 13, 2025, 06:32:20 AMCorrection: Like a family business.
A family business in the mafia sense of things.
Pretty much everything that tangerine 47 does is based on ego, money/power, and pleasing his Russian handlers.
And another thing: the whole concept and purpose of tariffs has always been strictly to exert economic pressure. I can't recall any government using tariffs as weapons of social policy. It's just astonishingly stupid.
Besides, US government's own statistics show that fewer than 1% of illegal immigration and fewer than 1% of fentanyl comes from Canada.
People are making a point of not buying anything from the US. The other day I noticed some things in the grocery store were turned upside down ... it was to alert people not to buy the item.
Quote from: morrow on March 16, 2025, 06:26:55 AMPeople are making a point of not buying anything from the US. The other day I noticed some things in the grocery store were turned upside down ... it was to alert people not to buy the item.
Can't blame them. At this point we deserve to be pariahs. It's sad and embarrassing.
Tariffs hurt those who have little the most. If you are affluent enough to consider buying a Porsche, slapping on an extra 25% or even 50% is not going to deter you. There is always money for luxury goods, wealthy people are the most economic crisis-resistant.
But if the price difference between a Chinese and an US refrigerator is what forces you to buy the Chinese one, then adding a prohibitive tariff will f*** you big time. In that case it's no refrigerator at all then.
You guys know me, yeah, I'm a lefty, I believe in social advancement, I'm too old for that to change. But I'm also a globalist - global trade with as little prohibitions as possible leads to the optimal allocation of production and market regions. The age of globalism saw national poverty decline - worldwide. Just take a look at what it did to China. The US didn't get any poorer either, actually the opposite - it is just that its allocation of wealth across the population became more top-heavy. But that is something you can't solve with tariffs.
All tariffs do is preserve inefficiencies for a while.
And the US has one other issue. Your huge domestic market. That is a blessing and a curse. A curse, because US production of goods tends to concentrate on the home market. Those goods, however, are often so specific they are rarely competitive in other markets. Sure, Europeans or Asians will buy an iPhone, a Harley-Davidson, a Levi's denim jeans or a Gibson Les Paul. Those are all arch-American brands, you acquire the mythology and social status with it. But no one looking for a space to park his car in London, Paris, Rome, Berlin or Warsaw needs a Dodge Ram, and no European farmer dreams of a John Deere or Massey Ferguson combine harvester. Your industries are not really used to adapting to other markets, that makes them susceptible to attacks from foreign brands who are. Again, tariffs won't cure that type of trade deficit.
He doesn't understand anything about tariffs and how they work. But whatever, it's not his fault. It's never ever his fault. Someone or something else is always at fault.
Life is hard when you're brain dead.
The first thing I remember in Econ 101 was analyzing tariffs, and how they were almost always bad for everyone except possibly the protected manufacturers.
It's an archaic instrument of medieval robber barons. Or going even further back to antiquity: one of Biblical publicans and tax farmers, not exactly popular figures in scripture IIRC ... Trump has become a re-publican. :mrgreen:
Immediately after the election "tariffs" was the most googled term in the US, no joke. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Dave W on March 16, 2025, 10:08:41 PMLife is hard when you're brain dead.
Ignorant derision at intelligence, education, experience and generally knowing what you are talking about has really become a thing in the era of social media, hasn't it? It has helped people overcome all shame about outing themselves as having no idea about anything.
If you listen to fools ... the mob rules !!!
Ah... living the dream in Scotland...
Also having a mother that was born in Vancouver BC before being repatriated to Scotland because of some financial fracas in 1930, gives me the right to claim Canadian citizenship...!
My sister holds duel nationality...
Presently awaiting Bernie Sanders to ask the good people of Vermont if they wish to stay in the Union or become a Province, as was discussed in the State prior to Biden's win...
No idea of the political leanings of the other 12 States that border the Provinces but wouldn't that make a pretty flip of the switch... :mrgreen:
Quote from: Highlander on March 17, 2025, 02:20:06 PMAh... living the dream in Scotland...
Also having a mother that was born in Vancouver BC before being repatriated to Scotland because of some financial fracas in 1930, gives me the right to claim Canadian citizenship...!
My sister holds duel nationality...
Presently awaiting Bernie Sanders to ask the good people of Vermont if they wish to stay in the Union or become a Province, as was discussed in the State prior to Biden's win...
No idea of the political leanings of the other 12 States that border the Provinces but wouldn't that make a pretty flip of the switch... :mrgreen:
Yes please.
I'm so happy to see America embrace Taliban culture politics!
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States really know best in such matters.
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Finally, some real country:
Ha! Hard to tell if that's satire or not. He needs to be sent into space.
A lot of people ask that question, is this satire? Have we really reached a stage already where it could be deemed as serious even in any alternative universe?
She's a comedian and currently feeding the take that it's sincere in its mock-devoutness, but I believe it's all part of the spoof to carry on for a while. To me it cries SNL. Or maybe I'm just one of those jaded and cynic libs that don't recognize true, unquestioning faith when they see it.
But then ... things can take a life of their own, can't say? This iconic Vietnam War pic here
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is largely seen as a media turning point of the war, a depiction of an atrocity. But that is not how the photographer intended it. He took the shot after the interrogation of the tied up man, a suspected Vietcong member, had apparently revealed that he had murdered a South Vietnamese family collaborating with the Americans, women and children being among the dead. The shootist, a higher ranking member of the South Vietnamese police, became so infuriated that he seethingly delivered what he thought was ultimate justice himself and executed him on the spot. The photographer, an American, thought nothing wrong with that given what the VC suspect had supposedly done - the rest of the world, however, did - and would decades later still belabor how the intended message of the pic could have gone so awry (from his point of view).
Well, at least it was nice of Elon to finally rescue those stranded NASA astronauts whatever else you may think of him. Personally, I'm happy to see DOGE trimming down the bloated bureaucracy. Speaking of Canada, I've had some of the happiest moments of my life there and I wish Canadians the best. I'm optimistic things will work out eventually.
No one is denying that Musk has real, selective talents and can be a driving force of innovation - but through all of history people like that have not been the right ones to wield significant political power. You wouldn't have wanted Thomas Edison or Henry Ford to be Presidents either. Musk can spend his zillions all he wants on flying to Mars, letting him buy a social network was a mistake under any rules-based order preventing concentration and misappropriation of powers.
If he can afford to buy it and it's for sale, it's a free country. If someone doesn't like him owning the product, they don't have to use it. It's not like Twitter is an essential utility. I don't use twitter but from what I understand there's less censorship now there than before and freedom of speech is more important than whatever the corrupted established order was allowing for. Hopefully some day most Europeans can say what they want without fear of having a knock on their door for expressing views contrary to what their establishment prefers.
Quote from: 4stringer77 on March 28, 2025, 11:22:39 AMHopefully some day most Europeans can say what they want without fear of having a knock on their door for expressing views contrary to what their establishment prefers.
As being a Swede I don't have any fear of speaking my mind (well, yet. Give Sverigedemokraterna some more slack and then we'll see). I'm not sure which European country you are referring to in that statement.
There is a schism where the US Constitution places Freedom of Speech (pretty much above all else in your First Amendment) and where most European democracies see it. Article 1 of the German Constitution reads:
"(1) Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority.
(2) The German people therefore acknowledge inviolable and inalienable human rights as the basis of every community, of peace and of justice in the world."
Only Article 2 states:
"1) Every person shall have the right to free development of his personality insofar as he does not violate the rights of others or offend against the constitutional order or the moral law.
(2) Every person shall have the right to life and physical integrity. Freedom of the person shall be inviolable. These rights may be interfered with only pursuant to a law."
You get the gist, there is much more of a "yes, but ..." element to Freedom of Speech. The German Constitution is shaped by historic experience: How the Nazis lied and defamed the Weimar Republic to get elected - and once in power dismantled democracy.
There are pros and cons to the respective emphases of both philosophies.
The older I get, the more my tolerance for hate speech, inventing things just for the heck of it or denying scientific progress shrinks. Social media amplifies these things beyond what we have experienced before in our history and algorithms lead people down rabbit holes where they no longer take part in a discourse. By now, I would likely favor algorithms being outlawed completely or at least programmed in a way that they do not filter out opposing views. I guess you can say that I'm no fan of freedom of ignorance.
Quote from: 4stringer77 on March 28, 2025, 10:03:27 AMPersonally, I'm happy to see DOGE trimming down the bloated bureaucracy.
There is no doubt a lot of bloat in government but DOGE is taking a sledgehammer to walls and asking afterwards if they were in fact load-bearing.
Multiple times now DOGE has gone in and fired someone crucial without realizing it leaving them scrambling to try to rehire them. They're basically using an AI to go through and flag things they don't like which has lead to situations like the removal of Jackie Robinson's military records and the Enola Gay from government websites. Musk himself is going into departments he has clear conflicts of interest with and screwing with them like going into the FAA, canceling a contract that they made with Verizon in 2023, and replacing it with a contract with his own company.
There is a way to audit departments and companies for excess. DOGE is not doing that.
Then there are the people he hired to work for DOGE. A guy who has been given direct access to sensitive personal information of Americans was literally fired from a previous job for leaking company information. These people are not vetted. They do not have security clearance. This is a clusterf***.
Successful change happens in small carefully controlled increments over time. Evolution rather than revolution.
My opinion...yours may vary. I'm uncomfortable with the chainsaw approach.
Quote from: 4stringer77 on March 28, 2025, 11:22:39 AM...fear of having a knock on their door for expressing views contrary to what their establishment prefers.
Elon's buddy Donald is taking the USA in that exact direction. It's already happening to college students.
Other than Germany, I would have said the UK pertaining to european countries that are most hostile toward free speech. Just recently some folks over there got arrested for complaining online about their kid's primary school.
I don't know exactly how the administration is trying to suppress the rights of college kids. The party previously in power would not have lost so much in the last election if the country was satisfied with the way things were going. The pendulum swings and so it goes.
Quote from: gearHed289 on March 31, 2025, 07:33:02 AMElon's buddy Donald is taking the USA in that exact direction. It's already happening to college students.
I can agree with what Ron Paul is saying here.
https://ronpaulinstitute.org/free-speech-is-worth-fighting-for/
Quote from: patman on March 31, 2025, 05:45:24 AMSuccessful change happens in small carefully controlled increments over time. Evolution rather than revolution.
My opinion...yours may vary. I'm uncomfortable with the chainsaw approach.
Amen. Progress is a snail, but a determined one. And for the life of me I can't think of a notable civilization that was built on chainsaws.
Quote from: 4stringer77 on March 31, 2025, 10:29:16 AMOther than Germany, I would have said the UK pertaining to european countries that are most hostile toward free speech.
...according to Breitbart and Fox News.
I'm ceaselessly amazed at how confidently Americans can make such poorly researched, unnuanced statements. Aren't you lot knocking back folk at airports for saying mean things about your new King for Life in text messages? Much freedom. At least the folk in North Korea probably understand that they are living in a totalitarian hellscape.
Quote from: 4stringer77 on March 31, 2025, 10:29:16 AMI don't know exactly how the administration is trying to suppress the rights of college kids. The party previously in power would not have lost so much in the last election if the country was satisfied with the way things were going. The pendulum swings and so it goes.
Look up the case of Rumeysa Ozturk who is a Turkish national legally here on a visa studying at Tufts university. Masked individuals ambushed her and took her away in an unmarked vehicle. Her crime: she co-wrote an op-ed criticizing her school's response to what was happening in Palestine which many view as a genocide. She was exerting her freedom of speech as a person legally here in the US and they kidnapped her. They also sent her to Louisiana against court orders.
Freedom of speech only matters to the right when it's on their side. Muskrat bought Twitter and said his goal was to restore the freedom of speech to the platform and yet that notion doesn't apply if you say something he doesn't like. Trump would constantly make threats and call for violence but his cult loses their head if anyone on the other side does anything marginally close to what he does.
Do not think that the election was a landslide and Democrats lost a huge footing because people were unhappy. Less than half of Americans voted for this and the difference in a red win versus a blue win is about 200k total votes across 3 swing states.
Oh, and if you care so much about wasted spending from a bloated government, how do you feel about the 20+ million that's already been spent on golf trips since January 20th?
Darrol, see post 50. I don't have 100% faith in any elected official. I'm hoping we don't get wrapped up in further military escalations but that looks like it will be a challenge. Don't get too worked up guys. I'd hope everyone here can manage to resist the urge to key a tesla or something like that.
My apologies; I've been a bit on edge about a lot of this stuff for a while now though I will never reach a level of keying a tesla or anything like that.
As for further military escalations, I don't have high hopes. Trump ran on not getting involved in any more and yet he's threatening military use to take over Greenland, make Canada the 51st state, and also take over the Panama Canal.
Don't forget Iran and China. It all gets a bit overwhelming after a while. All the more reason to dig in to some tunes, play some bass and try to get into a different frame of mind.
I would comment here but Darrol has expressed my views very well.
The current state of affairs sort of reminds me of Nero and the decline of Ancient Rome.
It's all a bit much and dystopian right now. And I miss the adults in the room.
But what baffles me the most is the amount of ignorance in the electorate (and I don't mean just the US, it's a symptom of very many Western societies), too many people have a next to nothing grasp of how good administration, domestic economies and worldwide trade work. Snake oil salesmen reign.
I don't know why comprehension of more complex issues has gone out of style, it used to be what set the Western World apart from its competitors. We live in world with an abundance of availabilities of gathering information, facts and knowledge - yet people seem to make little use of them.
Historically, whenever progress, science, education, research and development have been held in low regard, that has not been a good sign and an indication of rulerships trying to keep the public dumb and themselves in power.
Education has much to do with current trends. When I started in college, I think it cost $255 a quarter. Anyone who wanted an education could get one. Within limits, you could be whatever you wanted to be. Sky was the limit, as long as you worked hard and had talent.
The same education is now pretty expensive, resulting in sky high student loan amounts for the working class.
Added to that is a general disdain for education in many areas.
The whole "elitist" bullshit...
Access to education is a key driver to development and progress in any society and economy. I always thought the West had agreed on that long ago. As our societies and economies develop, not having a proper education will push you into fringe jobs with precarious job security and pressure for low wages. You will spend a good deal of your life fighting off to be redundant and never quite make it.
I don't want elites, I want well-educated masses. That is one of the things that makes a country strong and resilient.
I understand that people long for the 50s, 60s and early 70s when an unskilled auto worker in Detroit could pay off a house, have a small boat on Lake Michigan, cars for himself, the wife and his kids plus send them all to Ann Arbor for college, but that time won't come back. Established Western countries are doomed to develop into information and knowledge-based societies.
Quote from: uwe on April 01, 2025, 04:49:37 PMAccess to education is a key driver to development and progress in any society and economy. I always thought the West had agreed on that long ago. As our societies and economies develop, not having a proper education will push you into fringe jobs with precarious job security and pressure for low wages. You will spend a good deal of your life fighting off to be redundant and never quite make it.
I don't want elites, I want well-educated masses. That is one of the things that makes a country strong and resilient.
I understand that people long for the 50s, 60s and early 70s when an unskilled auto worker in Detroit could pay off a house, have a small boat on Lake Michigan, cars for himself, the wife and his kids plus send them all to Ann Arbor for college, but that time won't come back. Established Western countries are doomed to develop into information and knowledge-based societies.
The problem here in the US now is that the people in power don't want people educated. That way the masses can't question or understand what they're doing. Classic dictatorship.
What I can't understand is "wanting to bring manufacturing back"...
It's looking to the past rather than the future.
Same with hindering electric car development...
Why look backwards when the future is forwards?
Same with pushing fossil fuels, when the future is obviously something else...
In order to be successful, don't you need to look to the future, and be the first one there...?
Quote from: uwe on April 01, 2025, 04:49:37 PMAccess to education is a key driver to development and progress in any society and economy. I always thought the West had agreed on that long ago. As our societies and economies develop, not having a proper education will push you into fringe jobs with precarious job security and pressure for low wages. You will spend a good deal of your life fighting off to be redundant and never quite make it.
I don't want elites, I want well-educated masses. That is one of the things that makes a country strong and resilient.
I understand that people long for the 50s, 60s and early 70s when an unskilled auto worker in Detroit could pay off a house, have a small boat on Lake Michigan, cars for himself, the wife and his kids plus send them all to Ann Arbor for college, but that time won't come back. Established Western countries are doomed to develop into information and knowledge-based societies.
^^^ 1,000,000%
There are literally thousands of message boards, websites, social media platforms that politics can be discussed on. Although I am not disagreeing that things are a complete mess right now, this thread is getting old. Go rant on Twitter if it makes you feel better. I have started to come here more often to see cool quirky basses (to me), discover new random tunes or bands that people play in, or discover some off the wall obscure random trivia about Deep Purple that Herr Uwe digs up from his memory banks, not see political topics repeated kicked ad-nauseum that could be discussed literally on thousands of other sites/platforms/media.
Wild horses couldn't drag me on Twitter which has had a different name (and owner) for a while now, Keith!
Quote from: uwe on April 02, 2025, 02:58:31 PMWild horses couldn't drag me on Twitter which has had a different name (and owner) for a while now, Keith!
Twitter is a pox upon humanity, even before it's current owner came on.