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Title: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: Dave W on November 16, 2024, 09:40:02 PM
Grilled guinea pigs are this NYC restaurant's shocking specialty (https://nypost.com/2024/11/12/lifestyle/grilled-guinea-pigs-are-this-restaurants-shocking-specialty-and-locals-love-it-its-better-than-chicken/)

Looks appetizing!
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: uwe on November 18, 2024, 02:25:03 PM
I've eaten it in Chile in a Peruvian restaurant. It doesn't look much different on a plate to rabbit or hare served complete

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which I like as well. It actually tastes like it too. Long before guinea pigs became pets they were livestock in South America (where they initially come from), a peasant dish.

I'd eat one of those in a heartbeat, it looks tasty. Anyone who has ever kept a guinea pig as a pet should know that they make much more sense fried on a plate. A very rudimentary rodent with - unlike, say, a pet rat - low entertainment value.

When did you Yanks become so squeamish  :gay: , I've eaten pig's and goat's head often [not really unusual back in the 60s and 70s with German butchers, we basically had "headmeat" ('Wellfleisch')

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every Monday when our butcher had freshly slaughtered, those cheeks tasted yummy] - likewise we often had oxtail soup.

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To this day, I order my fish in one piece "together with the head" all the time (so does my son) and have enjoyed fruit bat (tastes game-y) in the Seychelles as well as insects and snake in Zaire. Not finding a place where you could get opossum stew when my son and I did a road trip in the Southern US was a real let-down, people thought we were joking.

What we eat and don't eat, find appetizing or not, is all wholly culturally acquired. I generally do as the Romans.
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: Pilgrim on November 18, 2024, 03:55:21 PM
Hey, we Yanks have both gourmet dishes: burgers AND cheeseburgers!
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: uwe on November 18, 2024, 04:54:25 PM
I know, sigh. You don't like to recognize what you eat.
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: Dave W on November 18, 2024, 08:43:40 PM
I'd eat it. I may have already. Next door neighbors are Ecuadoran. They've seved some kind of delicacy meat at special occasions where they've invited the neighbors (e.g. their daughter's quinceañera). I'll ask.
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: uwe on November 18, 2024, 09:54:36 PM
Just don't take the dog with you.
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: Dave W on November 19, 2024, 10:38:37 PM
 :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

They like dogs and other pets.

They have chickens, strictly for eggs (allowed here) -- and a couple have escaped into my back yard. If Joy should be out in the yard, it will be chicken dinner time for her.
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: uwe on November 19, 2024, 11:46:30 PM
That has become a popular thing in Germany too, even in suburban areas, keeping chickens for eggs. It had somewhat died out here from the late 60s onwards (except on farms in rural areas), but a lot of things come in cycles. Good for the chickens at least. A friend of mine keeps some chickens and his young teen daughter Marlene takes her favorite one with her wherever she goes (mostly to the neighbor boy) - the bird, miraculously, doesn't mind being carried around.
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: Pilgrim on November 20, 2024, 02:06:24 PM
My dad was born in 1919 and their family had chickens for a while. He swore that he would never have chickens again, and I've never felt differently. That's a lot of trouble for a very small benefit.   
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: uwe on November 20, 2024, 06:31:49 PM
My wife grew up with chickens too and she hates them! "They're dumb and they're mean-spirited!" she says.  :mrgreen: 
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: Dave W on November 20, 2024, 09:04:50 PM
But chickens are pure profit!

NSFW (language)

Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: ilan on November 21, 2024, 01:08:43 AM
If I wasn't already a vegetarian...
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: uwe on November 21, 2024, 05:11:19 AM
You really know how to ruin a party, Ilan!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: BTL on November 21, 2024, 06:48:07 AM
Life is gross. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: Highlander on November 21, 2024, 10:03:57 AM
The military research I've had to do regarding "Burma", and that theatre of War, noted that it was acceptable (for the Japanese troops, who had by early/mid 1944 become desperate for any form of sustenance) to eat the flesh of their enemy, but not their own... their preference was liver, buttocks and thighs...
It was not the easiest of reads but that is what can happen and without knowing Uwe's (working) "specialisations" are, I'm pretty certain he also may have had some grim research...
It's long been known as "long-pork"
I believe it was/is legal to consume human flesh in some countries to this day...
To each their own... :o
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 21, 2024, 01:00:55 PM
War is so awful that it can drive men to commit cannibalism. That said, I guess one thing I have in common with those Japanese soldiers is I'd be lying if I said I never ate ass before.
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: 4stringer77 on November 22, 2024, 10:44:32 AM
I bet some of those soldiers opted for a nice tossed salad instead. Alright, Im done now.  :-X
Title: Re: The head is the ‘best part’
Post by: uwe on November 22, 2024, 03:37:26 PM
Put people under extreme duress and they do extreme things. Cases of cannibalism happened in Stalingrad with encircled German troops and they happened with desperate Soviet POWs as the German Wehrmacht willfully starved them to death in 1941, same thing during the criminal siege of Leningrad where causing cannibalism among the populace was a German propaganda goal to demean the Russians. It also happened with the survivors of the Andes airplane crash in the 70s. I wouldn't judge, hunger can drive you mad, the Pope absolved the Chileans.

I'm pretty sure the Japanese fabricated some mock-ideological pretense to face/justify the prospect of eating human flesh in the absence of anything else. Don't think it was too good for their Shinto karma either.

Eating human flesh for sustenance is relatively rare. It generally requires famine-like conditions. In the absence of those and where it is culturally embedded, the ritual, erotic and religious aspects overshadow the metabolism one. Remember the German cannibal guy Armin Meiwes from around the Millenium?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes

At the time of his trial there was the issue whether him eating his male victim (who had volunteered to be killed and eaten as it was a sexual fantasy of his) was a sign of demeaning him (it would have increased Armin's sentence). Several anthropological scientists gave expert opinions that throughout history famine-free cannibalistic practice was not perceived as demeaning the victims, ritual and religious aspects being key.

Armin is still serving his life sentence. A schizoid character (but deemed fit to stand trial) he has by now become a - don't laugh - vegetarian and is a model inmate in the psychic ward of a low-security prison. Eligible for parole since 2017, his attempts to gain it have so far failed due to allegedly poor prospects of reintegration, but he is meanwhile allowed to do incognito supervised excursions outside of the prison. He regrets his deed and blames himself for not having sought psychological help sooner as his cannibalistic fantasies took up a greater and greater part of his everyday life.


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Now look where Dave's callous and gloating dislike of guinea pigs got us!  :mrgreen:

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PS: My name is Dr. Hannibal Lecter and I do not yet hold a position in the in-
coming Administration, but I approve this message.


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