What a bargain!
https://www.julienslive.com/lot-details/index/catalog/500/lot/219560/ERIC-CLAPTON-CREAM-STAGE-PLAYED-1964-FOOL-GIBSON-SG-ELECTRIC-GUITAR?url=%2Fauctions%2Fcatalog%2Fid%2F500
And what would it cost me to get rid of the paint job?
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Collectors gonna' collect.
For finish? A sin if there ever was one.
Always loved the artwork on this guitar. I'm still thinking of one day having a similar design painted on my '73 white Ric.
I once read that it never really dried right, but remained soft, sticky and gooey plus ruined the sound (Dave: Discuss!), any truth to that? It should have dried out by now.
Quote from: uwe on October 10, 2023, 03:54:21 PM
For finish? A sin if there ever was one.
:mrgreen:
Quote from: uwe on October 13, 2023, 06:32:55 AM
I once read that it never really dried right, but remained soft, sticky and gooey plus ruined the sound (Dave: Discuss!), any truth to that? It should have dried out by now.
I think that was Bruce's painted Bass VI that was gooey.
My bad!
In the description on that auction page, Rundgren who had it restored says that it wasn't properly sealed and paint was flaking off and the neck wood deteriorating. He doesn't mention the paint being gooey though.
Quote from: morrow on October 13, 2023, 08:23:08 AM
I think that was Bruce's painted Bass VI that was gooey.
You are correct, sir.
He said he never liked the feel of it after it was painted.
I blame the Dutch. ;)
I have a nice Fool story.
About 30 years ago I celebrated my birthday with friends. And we had the good habit to give each other useless presents. Such as ugly crockery and drinking glasses. But also horrible vinyl records from artists you were absolutely sure the birthday boy/girl would really hate. And as a bonus; the uglier/sillier the artwork, the better of course.
So on one of those birthday parties I got a stack of horrible vinyl records wrapped in nice packing paper.
- Alle Dertien Goed
- Gert & Hermien
- Het beste van Henk Wijngaard
And a very silly looking record by "The Fool"
Infantile artwork in blistering colours.
The music was even worse. Bad songwriting on hippy flutes and out of tune guitars.
We had a good laugh over that. :mrgreen:
The next day you'd throw them away along with all the ugly crockery, drinking glasses, cigarette butts, balloons and garlands.
And so I threw away that hilariously bad elpee by that horrible band The Fool.
I had no idea who they were. And I had never heard of their Art Collective and artwork for Cream.
Until I found out a couple of years later that this vinyl record was a highly sought after collector's item. :mrgreen:
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By the way: Simon Posthuma's son Douwe Bob is a successful musician in The Netherlands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZugH_-RIb4
I had no idea that they were also a band.
Oh well, I'd guess a lot of us have sold something that later became valuable.
Sold for $1.27 million (https://www.guitarworld.com/news/eric-clapton-the-fool-gibson-sg-auction-sale) :o
Probably Joe Bonamassa.
No, it was bought by James Irsay, owner of the (NFL) Indianapolis Colts.
From the article:
Highlights of his collection – for which he was offered over $1 billion – include Jimi Hendrix's '65 Fender Jazzmaster, David Gilmour's Black Strat and Kurt Cobain's Smells Like Teen Spirit Mustang. Irsay's own personal highlight from the collection, though, is Bob Dylan's Newport Folk Festival sunburst Fender Strat – the same model that was once found in an attic – which he called "one of the most important instruments in rock 'n' roll history".
Well, in that case that SG is now exactly where it belongs, namely in a collection of 20th century cultural artifacts. In essence, a bunch of rock'n'roll Stradivaris. A good home. You don't really want guitars like that to be continued to be played until they need a refin, a refret or new pups - they need to be preserved in the state they were used to write rock history.
I agree with his assessment of the Dylan Strat btw. Dylan was no Chuck Berry or Jimi Hendrix in a musical sense, but he brought the power of social commentary into rock music.
Quote from: uwe on November 19, 2023, 10:11:26 AM
Well, in that case that SG is now exactly where it belongs, namely in a collection of 20th century cultural artifacts. In essence, a bunch of rock'n'roll Stradivaris. A good home. You don't really want guitars like that to be continued to be played until they need a refin, a refret or new pups - they need to be preserved in the state they were used to write rock history.
I agree with his assessment of the Dylan Strat btw. Dylan was no Chuck Berry or Jimi Hendrix in a musical sense, but he brought the power of social commentary into rock music.
The Fool SG has already been repaired extensively during Rundgren's ownership - retouching, clear-coating, replacement of portions of the neck, headstock and some electronics - so it's not exactly pristine. Somebody actually built him a replica, which he said played and sounded better than the original.
Dylan's Strat is is of great importance primarily because he used it onstage at Newport, which was his first-ever performance on electric guitar. That set was seen as a turning point in popular music - where acoustic folk and electric rock were inexorably linked. Dylan's hard-core fans were horrified by his embrace of the electric.
I'm just not relating at all to the fanaticism of acoustic guitar fans. Somehow by accident, I once landed on a forum in which there was a flame war between electric and acoustic fans. Normally, I'm not on any guitar forum at all. But I was briefly on that one. That was the most intense warfare on a forum except for one other forum I was once on. I've heard about how horrified Dylan's hardcore fans were when he switched to electric at Newport and I believe it.
I know. He and The Band were booed at some gigs of their later UK tour too - folk fans couldn't handle it, any rock'n'roll element was perceived as intellectually lightweight and not authentic, an escapist passing fad. It must have bee akin to Led Zep performing in, say, 1974 with a dance troupe and horns during Stairway To Heaven.
Which would have given that song some entertainment value for once.
Marijke Koger still paints guitars.
https://www.facebook.com/marijke.kogerdunham
I wasn't even aware of her, how embarrassing, she's an indelible part of pop culture!
https://marijkekogerart.com/marijkeKoger/psychedelicGuitarArt.php
Alles Gute kommt aus Holland.
Quote from: uwe on November 20, 2023, 02:12:58 PM
I know. He and The Band were booed at some gigs of their later UK tour too - folk fans couldn't handle it, any rock'n'roll element was perceived as intellectually lightweight and not authentic, an escapist passing fad. It must have bee akin to Led Zep performing in, say, 1974 with a dance troupe and horns during Stairway To Heaven.
Which would have given that song some entertainment value for once.
Oh dear, this sounds like a prompt for a "oddest cover songs" thread...
Quote from: uwe on November 21, 2023, 11:01:27 AM
I wasn't even aware of her, how embarrassing, she's an indelible part of pop culture!
https://marijkekogerart.com/marijkeKoger/psychedelicGuitarArt.php
She is. But don't feel bad, you are concentrating at fallschirmjäger while I try to concentrate on Dutch popart.
:mrgreen:
All great art kommt aus Holland!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM7WVNxNnWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXezPSfATy8
Quote from: uwe on November 20, 2023, 02:12:58 PM
I know. He and The Band were booed at some gigs of their later UK tour too - folk fans couldn't handle it, any rock'n'roll element was perceived as intellectually lightweight and not authentic, an escapist passing fad. It must have bee akin to Led Zep performing in, say, 1974 with a dance troupe and horns during Stairway To Heaven.
Which would have given that song some entertainment value for once.
All I can say is that although it can have many merits, sometimes I can't handle folk music, either. I never wanted to boycott it, though, or help start a riot against it.
Fate had it that even at an advanced age I saw myself confronted with an avalanche of folk music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSk0sdG1RXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1aB4Be--Jc
But there is a big difference between traditional American folk music and neo-medieval folk rock. In general, I'm not very enthusiastic about the former. I had mentioned in another post about Nordic Roots music. Sometimes this can seem like a blend of medieval folk and rock. It can be odd and maybe even a little unsettling, but a band like Hoven Droven which I've also mentioned can get my attention. You just don't hear stuff like this at your local venue with a cover band. At least I don't. If i were in Sweden, I might be able to speak about it with a little more authority.
https://youtu.be/HXuNdjxRdh8
Quote from: Chris P. on November 21, 2023, 09:01:25 AM
Marijke Koger still paints guitars.
https://www.facebook.com/marijke.kogerdunham
Peter Cook is a FB friend of hers...
I've not been following/replicating her style of fins... :mrgreen:
And if you're throwing in some Joan Baez... lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9-HI_VjwE&ab_channel=JudasPriestVEVO