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Title: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: Dave W on November 30, 2022, 11:46:57 PM
These seem to be priced at $75-$95 for a 4-string long scale set, But I found out from a poster at TDPRI that an Amazon seller has them listed as an accordion accessory (?!) and has them priced at $57.81.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00162ZSW6

I'm not interested but some of you might be.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: uwe on December 01, 2022, 04:50:15 AM
Do we experience a T-I string craze resurgence?  :mrgreen:

I remember those things becoming kind of a mono-theme at the Dudepit. Those T-I Flats especially were a rubbery lot - in weird gauges. Not for someone like me who digs the manly pull (and eternal life!) of D'Addario Chromes.  8)

Beware of Austrians! We should know.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: morrow on December 01, 2022, 06:08:31 AM
You need a light touch , but they’re great strings.
Mostly play short scales now and I like something stiffer on a short scale.
Good price!
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: Dave W on December 01, 2022, 06:12:35 AM
They're still loved by some. Nothing at all wrong with that if it suits your style (and ear).

Dude was a T-I dealer and really hyped them. Some members would jump on anything he promoted.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: doombass on December 02, 2022, 05:09:07 PM
TI's and Darkstars were the saviors of all bass at the Dudepit. My fretless Ripper came to me with TI Flats and after a while I changed to Chromes which I usually prefer. I've been thinking of switching back because on the fretless it feels better with looser tension.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: OldManC on December 03, 2022, 01:24:32 PM
TIs and the Pit got me to try flats for the first time, but as soon as I tried some Chromes (and then LaBellas) a few years later, I was done ever wanting or buying TIs again. I'm glad I learned about them though because for some reason I'd never considered flats before then. 
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: morrow on December 03, 2022, 03:38:57 PM
They’re still the most common string on the 34 in basses I have. If you play with a light touch they’re a great string. I do put fresh rounds on the old Ray every once in a while.
I do prefer something stiffer with a short scale. Most have LaBella flats , but the Longhorn I tend to gig with has 24 year old rounds , and I keep fresh BriteWires on the Jr. 
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: ilan on December 04, 2022, 12:50:28 AM
TI's and Darkstars were the saviors of all bass at the Dudepit.

and the J-Retro.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: morrow on December 04, 2022, 05:43:18 AM
Don’t forget the Cafe Walter.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: ilan on December 04, 2022, 10:38:09 AM
Don’t forget the Cafe Walter.

Yes!

I like TI JF344's for flats. I just like Ernie Ball Group IV a little more.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: Dave W on December 04, 2022, 12:42:07 PM
Walter is still around, but he only makes the piezo buffer, not the headphone amp.

Whatever the bass related product, if Steve could make a buck or so on commission, he was all in hyping it up. Even if he wasn't an authorized dealer. Most of those products were good, but regardless, there were always a bunch of members ready to jump on any bandwagon he started.

Last time I checked, a couple of years ago, Steve was working on a ranch in New Mexico. Now he says he's a certified Level 1 ski instructor at a resort about 25 miles south of Taos. Whatever, I hope he's found himself.

Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: OldManC on December 04, 2022, 01:01:43 PM
Don’t forget the Cafe Walter.

I still use my headphone amp regularly. That is, when I can get it away from my 15 year old son. I love that thing.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: Highlander on December 11, 2022, 06:11:05 AM
I have them on my 5 string AEB and that's it... my only 5 string too... has a nice tone... stuck with Roto 77's for too many years on my other fretless instruments...
If it ain't broke... lol
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2022, 12:03:26 PM
I always liked the low tension and textured sound of TI's.
I broke a G string  recently and put an La Bella (low tension) in it's place and they feel and sound the same.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: Pilgrim on December 17, 2022, 10:01:42 AM
I always liked the low tension and textured sound of TI's.
I broke a G string  recently and put an La Bella (low tension) in it's place and they feel and sound the same.

That's interesting.

I put the Labella low tensions on one of my short scale basses and really couldn't tell any difference compared to the Labella 760FL light gauge flats that I normally use.  At least they're less expensive than the TIs.   
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: Rob on December 19, 2022, 11:32:40 AM
That's interesting.

I put the Labella low tensions on one of my short scale basses and really couldn't tell any difference compared to the Labella 760FL light gauge flats that I normally use.  At least they're less expensive than the TIs.
Agree!  I bought the TI's initially thinking they would resolve any tension problems on my old P bass (like yours).
I do like the textured sound they deem to bring but the Labella's do it too.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: Dave W on December 19, 2022, 11:15:02 PM
I tried the low tension Labellas and thought they sounded quite different from the regular Labellas. Didn't care for the tone.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: ilan on December 20, 2022, 01:39:16 AM
I tried the low tension Labellas and thought they sounded quite different from the regular Labellas. Didn't care for the tone.

I have medium scale LaBella LTF's on almost all my Höfners. Too bright when new but once they're broken in I like them. They're not easy to find in medium scale so when I do find a dealer that stocks them I get a couple extra sets.

For long scale flats, as some of you know, I'm a big fan of Ernie Ball Group IV (NOT the Slinky flats!). I switched to EB after years of TI JF's. The .040 set is a little stiffer than TI's, and has better tone and feel for my taste. And they cost about half of TI's.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: Dave W on December 20, 2022, 07:47:15 AM
I use the Group III. Great flats and moderately priced. But I still like rounds more.
Title: Re: T-I Jazz Flats
Post by: ilan on December 21, 2022, 12:31:34 AM
I use the Group III. Great flats and moderately priced. But I still like rounds more.

For me it's rounds on the Jazz, Rics, Yamaha, and EB-0L; and flats on the P's and hollowbody Höfners.