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Title: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: Pilgrim on September 02, 2022, 09:50:29 PM
Don't know where this was posted...but at least the guy has ambitions!
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: Grog on September 03, 2022, 07:48:52 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: doombass on September 04, 2022, 04:04:11 PM
I suppose it's a birthday prank or similar but still funny. I especially like the effort to misspell the instrument in question.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: uwe on September 05, 2022, 02:03:20 AM
Start small, but think big.
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: lowend1 on September 05, 2022, 12:33:56 PM
Eddie Brigati is putting a band together?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUNJbVFW5Pw&ab_channel=TheEdSullivanShow
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: uwe on September 05, 2022, 12:42:04 PM
Good percussion can be the key to success.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPh7OZew5oo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFTFTXDOzAc

I hear the cowbell fine (he even changes from quarter notes to eighth notes at one point) on the original track AND IT SOUNDS GREAT. Gives the track a nice chugging feel and I always identified it with a ticking clock

(https://c.tenor.com/vR1hGi9w7IUAAAAM/tick-tock-clock.gif)

- in line with the reassuringly fatalist message of the song.  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF7mP2LASCo
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: uwe on September 05, 2022, 12:57:11 PM
Speaking of tambourine playing ... I love how it sets in here at 4:30 towards the end of the track and picks up in notes at 4:40, my favorite part in the whole song, small detail, great effect!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWx7lSZw-c
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: doombass on September 06, 2022, 12:47:15 AM
Too bad they did'nt get to keep their predecessor, a master of small rhythm instuments. He kept an arsenal. Skip to 2:48 and he goes from cowbell to something I don't even know the name of. That's how Deep Purple formed you know. Rod Evans put an ad up like the one above. Too bad for them he outgrew them, adding lots more to the tambourine playing, like singing for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tuqmHSfStA
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: Dave W on September 06, 2022, 01:05:39 AM
Never could understand why the "more cowbell" skit was supposed to be funny. One of the dumbest SNL skits of that era.
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: uwe on September 06, 2022, 04:48:34 AM
On a humor level, it quickly overstayed its welcome, I agree. And it ridiculed a great song with a somber-melancholic vibe. BÖC took it in good humor though and didn't become a whining Winger complaining that Beavis & Butthead ruined their career.

Doomie, Captin Beyond always had an appetite for self-destruction AND percussion, my guess is that their initial drummer and co-mastermind Bobby Caldwell liked added percussion, but as he had to concentrate on real drums live, someone else had to do it (though the Englishman wasn't especially adept at it). By their second album, they had Guille Garcia (from an Englishman to a Cuban, definitely a rhythmic improvement) on congas/timbales/percussion (who would go on to play with Chicago)

(https://i.discogs.com/H72_9FeIQYCIhtaYy2-KyZxsom6wKJWOEoEsCOqVO10/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:450/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9BLTQ2NDM4/Ni0xNTE5OTQxOTg4/LTk3NzEuanBlZw.jpeg)

PLUS Marty Rodriguez on drums & backing vocals (Caldwell having joined Derringer though he would return for later Captain Beyond line-ups). Captain Beyond's excellent second album Sufficiently Breathless had enough percussion on it/was rhythm-drenched enough to put any Santana record to shame:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ8GD7tFpVc

Underrated band. I like Evans' work with them better than what he did with DP Mk I.  But a genre label like Capricorn was definitely the wrong record company for them, anybody expecting something akin to Southern Rock from this Iron Butterfly/Johnny Winter/Deep Purple spin-off, could only be confused. Thanks to Rod Evans' voice they didn't even sound American, much less Southern.

Those two Captain Beyond albums with Evans rate among the strongest and most interesting material recorded by any ex-DP while on leave from the mothership.
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: lowend1 on September 06, 2022, 04:53:12 AM
Quote from: Dave W on September 06, 2022, 01:05:39 AM
Never could understand why the "more cowbell" skit was supposed to be funny. One of the dumbest SNL skits of that era.

The majority of SNL skits weren't/aren't funny - they rely on repetition to create a meme, essentially. Remember when people were running around yelling "Cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, chips - No Coke, Pepsi!"? The truly funny ones were few and far between. One of my all-time favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeSwrFKFNFw
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: Dave W on September 06, 2022, 08:07:39 PM
Good point. 

But there was educational content. I learned all about astronomy from Father Sarducci.

https://youtu.be/lWBhsiBMOIo
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: westen44 on September 06, 2022, 10:30:04 PM
I thought the early stuff with Eddie Murphy on SNL was funny.  But I saw him perform in person and he wasn't funny at all.  Whatever was going on in SNL, it looks like he really needed the writers. 
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2022, 05:08:17 AM
I liked some of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LeJfn_qW0

These days of course, that skit wouldn't be allowed, cultural appropriation!
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: Pilgrim on September 07, 2022, 08:17:27 AM
Let's not forget SNLs intellectual peak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt0spqQtMKg
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: westen44 on September 07, 2022, 11:13:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAalP0jeqV4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv2VIEY9-A8
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: lowend1 on September 07, 2022, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: uwe on September 07, 2022, 05:08:17 AM
I liked some of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LeJfn_qW0

These days of course, that skit wouldn't be allowed, cultural appropriation!

That's another classic. Eddie was a genius on that show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h2jZtuRuic&ab_channel=SaturdayNightLive
Title: Re: Never underestimate the tambourine player
Post by: Dave W on September 07, 2022, 11:10:48 PM
https://youtu.be/3l2oi-X8P38