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Title: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: ilan on December 19, 2021, 01:48:27 AM
6 string LP bass at 3:33
4-PU Bird at 5:42

https://youtu.be/FRXqtxdJ7VY&t=5m42s
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Basvarken on December 19, 2021, 03:20:47 AM
"Gibson ModTM Collection products may have minor cosmetic defects which are listed in the Warranty Evaluation for each product. These defects are AS-IS and are not covered under the Gibson ModTM Collection's Limited Warranty"

What?!
They have the bloody nerve to ask a king's ransom for these and not even have them flawless?

And, what's the point of converting an existing product if you have all the tools at hand to build an entirely new one. I'm not sure if I would want a bass that has a plugged / doweled headstock and dito bridge. Not for that kind of money at least.

Having said that, I like the idea of a LP six bass.

(The Christmas finishes of sliver and gold are butt ugly by the way)
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: ilan on December 19, 2021, 08:06:22 AM
The 4-pickup Bird is a bit like the Nigel Tufnel MusicMan. But I like the look, a lot actually. And I like the tone of a neck-position pickup in a bass, like a Ric toaster or a Höfner neck pickup.

(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--scvfMh6v--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1488321188/gakgw4ruyymnmx2foouf.jpg)
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: uwe on December 20, 2021, 09:41:04 AM
Too many pups get in the way of my pick playing, especially if the neck is set low so that the top of the body and hence the pups are very close to the strings. It distracts me if my pick constantly bumps against something.

But isn't four (!) soapies adding insult to injury for all you wretched chromies here?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: TBird1958 on December 21, 2021, 10:18:48 AM


Do my eyes deceive me? Are the saddles on that  beautiful 3 point chrome and the body black? How many pups is too many pups?
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: TBird1958 on December 22, 2021, 05:40:22 PM


Then there's this......I like it.

https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMOH16478/Thunderbird-Bass/Smooth-Brown
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Ken on December 22, 2021, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: TBird1958 on December 22, 2021, 05:40:22 PM

Then there's this......I like it.

https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMOH16478/Thunderbird-Bass/Smooth-Brown

"Thunderbird reissue pickups".  Foreshadowing?
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: ilan on December 23, 2021, 04:12:13 AM
The bass looks like it's covered in leather.

(https://static.gibson.com/product-images/Demo/DMOH16478/Smooth%20Brown/RAM015309-6.png)
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Basvarken on December 23, 2021, 04:37:19 AM
That is one of the minor cosmetic defects you pay extra for  8)
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: ilan on December 23, 2021, 06:32:59 AM
Fixed it

Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Rob on December 24, 2021, 09:47:47 AM
Quote from: Basvarken on December 23, 2021, 04:37:19 AM
That is one of the minor cosmetic defects you pay extra for  8)
Hahahaha
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: gearHed289 on December 24, 2021, 11:11:34 AM
Quote from: TBird1958 on December 22, 2021, 05:40:22 PM

Then there's this......I like it.

https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMOH16478/Thunderbird-Bass/Smooth-Brown

This would look awesome with a b/w/b pickguard and bird logo. The leathery finish kind of works for the color. The black rings kind of get lost against that finish, but it probably looks better in person.
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Alanko on December 26, 2021, 08:01:25 AM
That Trogly guy is an annoyingly adenoidal little grifter isn't he! I can't watch his videos for more than a few minutes, especially when he starts trying to play the guitars.
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: westen44 on December 26, 2021, 08:44:09 AM
Quote from: Alanko on December 26, 2021, 08:01:25 AM
That Trogly guy is an annoyingly adenoidal little grifter isn't he! I can't watch his videos for more than a few minutes, especially when he starts trying to play the guitars.

You are correct.  That particular tone of voice seems to be developing among certain males.  I don't know what it is.  There are annoying rises in the pitch of the voice throughout sentences and the last syllable of a word often ends in vocal fry.  If everyone talked like that in the U.S., I think I would seriously have to consider moving to another country.  Because I find listening to this kind of thing to be unbearable.  Fortunately, it seems to be limited in scope and I haven't heard very many people use that "accent" or whatever it is.  Whatever it is, I don't think it's regional, but I do think it must be some kind of affectation. 
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: D.M.N. on December 26, 2021, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: Alanko on December 26, 2021, 08:01:25 AM
That Trogly guy is an annoyingly adenoidal little grifter isn't he! I can't watch his videos for more than a few minutes, especially when he starts trying to play the guitars.

God I cannot stand his dumb voice. It's like having a spinal tap any time I misclick and one of his videos starts playing.
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Dave W on December 27, 2021, 12:11:12 AM
I agree with all the comments about Trogly. In addition, he takes 10 minutes to make a point about something that a normal person could have explained in 30 seconds.

The CIA probably uses his videos to psychologically torture terrorists.

Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Alanko on December 27, 2021, 05:08:46 AM
Quote from: D.M.N. on December 26, 2021, 08:54:38 AM
God I cannot stand his dumb voice. It's like having a spinal tap any time I misclick and one of his videos starts playing.

I don't understand why he is so highly rated on The Gear Page, et al. He is 'book smart' about Norlin-era Gibsons, to a degree. He gets things wrong occasionally and there is no depth to any of his analysis or assessment of instruments. He doesn't understand guitar wiring, so at best he can lift a control cavity cover and say things like "and the wiring all looks good, with nice big capacitors in there". Plus, it gals me that he can't play guitar well at all. This is his specialism, so why isn't he any good behind the wheel? For all that people can retort 'but Gruhn can't play either!', Gruhn didn't build a reputation from uploading thirty minute videos of himself surfing Reverb for bargains.


My wider gripe is that any criticism of these YouTube ubermensch is now framed as jealousy or negativity given the slightly emotionally incontinent time we now live in...
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: uwe on December 27, 2021, 01:08:17 PM
A somewhat verbose young man, agreed, but isn't talking a lot, yet saying little in tune with these influencing times? His son will at least have the benefit of extensive bedtime stories, so that's a good thing.

(https://di2ponv0v5otw.cloudfront.net/posts/2020/01/28/5e3118b208a008dadcf537d6/s_5e3118b408a008dadcf537fb.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rkNBH5fbMk
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Dave W on December 27, 2021, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Alanko on December 27, 2021, 05:08:46 AM
I don't understand why he is so highly rated on The Gear Page, et al. He is 'book smart' about Norlin-era Gibsons, to a degree. He gets things wrong occasionally and there is no depth to any of his analysis or assessment of instruments. He doesn't understand guitar wiring, so at best he can lift a control cavity cover and say things like "and the wiring all looks good, with nice big capacitors in there". Plus, it gals me that he can't play guitar well at all. This is his specialism, so why isn't he any good behind the wheel? For all that people can retort 'but Gruhn can't play either!', Gruhn didn't build a reputation from uploading thirty minute videos of himself surfing Reverb for bargains.


My wider gripe is that any criticism of these YouTube ubermensch is now framed as jealousy or negativity given the slightly emotionally incontinent time we now live in...

He left MLP in a huff a couple of years ago.  He had his fans there, but on the whole, he wasn't respected. Good riddance.
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: gearHed289 on December 28, 2021, 09:51:52 AM
I've been waiting for an opportunity to say this, so here it is - YouTube "stars" are annoying! When people who didn't "live it", but rather read about it on Wikipedia, then go online speaking as some sort of expert, it's time to change the channel. I see it a lot in lazy "journalism" too. Is this what a couple of decades of bloggers has lead us to?
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: uwe on December 28, 2021, 10:01:15 AM
Hey, I like him!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxASxisMNUM

Pete's my hero and our musical tastes very often align.
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: westen44 on December 28, 2021, 01:59:23 PM
I thought we were talking about Trogly, not Pete.  Pete rates Golden Earring high.  I like him.  Also, I see nothing about him that would be distracting. 
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Dave W on December 29, 2021, 01:39:28 AM
We were talking about Trogly.

And I agree with Tom about YouTube "stars" -- so many of them are self-appointed know-nothings.
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: westen44 on December 29, 2021, 05:36:58 AM
Quote from: Dave W on December 29, 2021, 01:39:28 AM
We were talking about Trogly.

And I agree with Tom about YouTube "stars" -- so many of them are self-appointed know-nothings.

It isn't just YouTube.  Much of the Internet has given self-appointed "experts" a chance to spew their drivel.  I think maybe ignorance breeds a special type of boldness.  YouTube really is bad, though, and just seems to be getting worse. 
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: gearHed289 on December 29, 2021, 07:59:54 AM
Quote from: uwe on December 28, 2021, 10:01:15 AM
Hey, I like him!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxASxisMNUM

Pete's my hero and our musical tastes very often align.

I almost added a "not all" disclaimer, but I was too grumpy yesterday.  ;D I like Pete too. Sea of Tranquility (Steven Reid, not Pete) gave my band's first EP a good review a few years back.
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: Dave W on December 30, 2021, 12:04:06 AM
Quote from: westen44 on December 29, 2021, 05:36:58 AM
It isn't just YouTube.  Much of the Internet has given self-appointed "experts" a chance to spew their drivel.  I think maybe ignorance breeds a special type of boldness.  YouTube really is bad, though, and just seems to be getting worse.

Robert Ringer, in Looking Out For #1, coined the term Shmexpert to describe people like this. They pose as experts b/c they're desperate for attention but they don't know their subject.
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: westen44 on December 30, 2021, 05:36:07 AM
Quote from: Dave W on December 30, 2021, 12:04:06 AM
Robert Ringer, in Looking Out For #1, coined the term Shmexpert to describe people like this. They pose as experts b/c they're desperate for attention but they don't know their subject.

The quote "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" is applicable. 
Title: Re: Mod Collection 4-pickup TBird and 6-string ES LP GibSix bass
Post by: morrow on December 30, 2021, 06:22:50 AM
YouTube has created the recroom entrepreneur .