The seller is a bit off on this one............. He says it's one of only 45 produced in '58. It has the same case that my first reissue had that I though was an aftermarket case, but I've seen several since with the same chunks of bare foam on the lid.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Gibson-EB-1-eb1-Vintage-Bass-Guitar/163056722624?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D50999%26meid%3De561c459b27e402c96e0d1473d5a29d8%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D202313458314%26itm%3D163056722624&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
By a bit off, do you mean a moron? Because this guy is.
No Evertilt in '58 ???
No brown plastic-covered single coil pickup, no banjo tuners, no bar bridge, no fake f-hole, no pinstriping, and a s/n that couldn't possibly be from the 50s. Am I missing anything else?
He's either badly misinformed or a con artist.
He's owned it since the sixties..........
You usually don't get this kind of false information from someone that claims to have owned his instrument since before the model was actually sold?!!??%#%$@!
I wonder if it was stolen or possibly inherited to somebody that hasn't a clue as to what it is..........
Quote from: Grog on May 21, 2018, 04:39:44 PM
He's owned it since the sixties..........
You usually don't get this kind of false information from someone that claims to have owned his instrument since before the model was actually sold?!!??%#%$@!
I wonder if it was stolen or possibly inherited to somebody that hasn't a clue as to what it is..........
I missed that gem.
Contacting him would only bring an angry denial. He must know what he really has.
Caveat emptor.
Thankfully it ended without a bid. I checked in today to see if he had relisted, and it has been completely removed, you can't even see the ended auction. I wonder why.
It has become 10 years younger now, that seems about right.
Quote from: uwe on June 08, 2018, 05:26:41 PM
It has become 10 years younger now, that seems about right.
Not the same bass we were talking about. Note the "The listing you're looking for is no longer available. Check out this similar item we found for you."
The so-called 1958 EB-1 was actually a legit EB-1 reissue, probably from 1970 since it didn't have the Made In USA impressed.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/G3EAAOSwOyJatpMF/s-l1600.jpg)
Looks like he's back.....................
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Gibson-EB-1-eb1-Vintage-Bass-Guitar/163091317227?hash=item25f90001eb:g:G3EAAOSwOyJatpMF
I wonder what the story is with the earlier (Dog Eared) hand rest. the holes are visible from the original. Maybe he just wanted to showcase the innovative "Tilt-O-Matic" bridge.
Quote from: Grog on June 16, 2018, 06:40:11 AM
Looks like he's back.....................
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Gibson-EB-1-eb1-Vintage-Bass-Guitar/163091317227?hash=item25f90001eb:g:G3EAAOSwOyJatpMF
I wonder what the story is with the earlier (Dog Eared) hand rest. the holes are visible from the original. Maybe he just wanted to showcase the innovative "Tilt-O-Matic" bridge.
Earlier than what? The 50s originals didn't come with a hand rest. I didn''t notice in his prior auction, but that sure doesn't look like the rest that came with the reissues either.
He claims he moved it b/c he plays with a pick "to allow easy playing over the pickup." Regardless, it doesn't look wide enough to cover the bridge.
I actually thought that if it was to make a comeback it would have had a revised description. :o
Quote from: Dave W on June 16, 2018, 09:15:42 AM
Earlier than what? The 50s originals didn't come with a hand rest. I didn''t notice in his prior auction, but that sure doesn't look like the rest that came with the reissues either.
The 68 version came with the wider chrome handrest over the Evertilt. Grog is right that you can still see that holes on either of the bridge.
Quote from: Basvarken on June 16, 2018, 03:19:36 PM
The 68 version came with the wider chrome handrest over the Evertilt. Grog is right that you can still see that holes on either of the bridge.
I think we're confusing terms here. AFAIK once the Evertilt was introduced, the handrest was discontinued, and a bridge cover was introduced. The holes you can see on either side of the bridge are from a bridge cover, but what he refers to as a "bridge guard" is almost certainly a handrest from a pre-'68 EB-0/EB-3. He didn't move it from over the bridge b/c it's not a bridge cover, it didn't come with the bass, and it's not wide enough to cover the Evertilt and fit those screw holes.
But he's owned the bass since before it was manufactured, so he must be an expert. :rolleyes:
Yes, owning a bass before it was manufactured might seem like an accomplishment. But sometimes people do clever things. Once someone told Noel Redding that he saw the Jimi Hendrix Experience in a concert in 1972. Noel said that must have been quite clever since Hendrix had died in 1970.
Quote from: Dave W on June 16, 2018, 05:57:57 PM
I think we're confusing terms here. AFAIK once the Evertilt was introduced, the handrest was discontinued, and a bridge cover was introduced. The holes you can see on either side of the bridge are from a bridge cover, but what he refers to as a "bridge guard" is almost certainly a handrest from a pre-'68 EB-0/EB-3. He didn't move it from over the bridge b/c it's not a bridge cover, it didn't come with the bass, and it's not wide enough to cover the Evertilt and fit those screw holes.
But he's owned the bass since before it was manufactured, so he must be an expert. :rolleyes:
Ah yes, the chrome thingy that covers the bridge and where you can rest your hand on. :mrgreen:
Quote from: Dave W on June 16, 2018, 05:57:57 PM
I think we're confusing terms here. AFAIK once the Evertilt was introduced, the handrest was discontinued, and a bridge cover was introduced. The holes you can see on either side of the bridge are from a bridge cover, but what he refers to as a "bridge guard" is almost certainly a handrest from a pre-'68 EB-0/EB-3. He didn't move it from over the bridge b/c it's not a bridge cover, it didn't come with the bass, and it's not wide enough to cover the Evertilt and fit those screw holes.
But he's owned the bass since before it was manufactured, so he must be an expert. :rolleyes:
That bass most defiantly didn't come with that handrest as Dave said............ I have seen a few odd combinations of handrests, bridge covers & bridges. My '68 EB-0 must have been a transition model, it has a "Tilt-O-Matic" & the older handrest. My'67 EB-2, (that I've had since 1955....LOL) came with a cut-a-way in the pickguard for the bridge cover. Mine never had a handrest installed but I've seen several with the newer bridge cover in the handrest location.
(https://i.imgur.com/i57wCUMl.jpg)
I heard (or read, can't remember) that sometime in the 60's they shipped the handrest unmounted, so that shops could install them if the customer wanted? Maybe just before they started making the new bridge cover... Anyone that can verify this information?
I've never heard that.
I think that my '67 EB-2, was special ordered without a hand rest. It never had an orange label until I put a NOS label in it. My '67 ES-335 was special ordered with a Bigsby instead of the Lyre Vibrola that normally came with it at the time. It has a CUSTOM TRC & also never had an orange label until I put one on. Here is an early photo, back when I purchased my first Hobbit for $300.00. After nearly 20 years of owning the other two, this increased my guitar population from two to three. Things went downhill from there................... I eventually traded my EB-2 pickguard for one without a cutaway for the hand rest.
(https://i.imgur.com/UcpYna7.jpg)
You could custom order, and I'm sure some did. AFAIK it wasn't normal for the hand rest to be shipped uninstalled. Back in the day, I never saw one in a store that way.
In any case, the EB-1 reissue came with a bridge cover, not a hand rest.
Against my better judgment, I contacted him two or three days ago and politely explained all the features of a '58 that his doesn't have and that his is definitely a reissue. No response at all from him, and now he's relisted it with no change. Since two minutes of searching would confirm everything I told him, I have to conclude that he's attempting a swindle, in spite of his good feedback.
Another thing I forgot to mention: "comes with five extra sets of vintage light gauge Gibson electric bass strings ($60/set if you can find them)." Yeah, right. Since when did strings made in the 90s or later become "vintage"? There's a set on Reverb now for $21 and the last sale I can see was a set sold for $15 in March on eBay.
Agreed............ With minimal research, even somebody with no knowledge of this bass can see that it's not a '58. 1958 was the last year the original version was shipped & only 45 were sold that year. I wonder why he picked that year??? Dave has his displayed online.............
https://davesguitar.com/dgs_collection/eb-1-58/