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Title: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Basvarken on March 15, 2018, 07:45:13 AM
For $12,500 At Lark Street Music
https://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-eb-6-1960-sunburst
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: uwe on March 15, 2018, 08:10:33 AM
Not an unfair price, I paid USD 10,000 for mine in likewise pristine condition, but that was many years ago.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Grog on March 15, 2018, 10:58:35 AM
If I could only win the lotto........................
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: amptech on March 15, 2018, 10:50:53 PM
Ooooo.. Sexy!
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 16, 2018, 07:06:08 AM
Ooooo.. Sexy!

If I could only win the lotto........................
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Pilgrim on March 16, 2018, 09:02:46 AM
I look on such objects with wonder. I'd love to be able to buy such a toy instead of a car...but that's pretty close to the price of the last two cars my family bought.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: uwe on March 16, 2018, 11:50:03 AM
Don't get carried away, it feels more like a guitar than a bass. And sounds like it too.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: FrankieTbird on March 16, 2018, 12:55:52 PM

Lark Street always has cool stuff.  I used to have band rehearsal right around the corner.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Alanko on March 16, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
Here is one in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6WuSxMWaOY
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Dave W on March 16, 2018, 02:12:31 PM
I love PhilX's demos!

Of course he's got it backwards, there's no bass boost, it's a bass cut in the other switch position. Common mistake.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Basvarken on March 18, 2018, 04:20:53 AM
In the biography of Bruce Springsteen there's a nice anecdote where he tells about this cool guitar he had when he was young. And how it played incredibly heavy and the guitar strings barely fit. Until he found out it was an EB-6  :rimshot:
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Chris P. on March 19, 2018, 02:14:33 AM
Phil's a great guy!
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: ilan on March 19, 2018, 07:04:01 AM
So wait a minute, if I put a PAF on an EB2 it's going to sound like this? Because I really liked Phil's clean tone (not the bass cut position though) and it sounded nothing like my old too-muddy-to-keep EB2C. If I still had it I'd try to hide a PAF under the big Sidewinder cover.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Dave W on March 19, 2018, 10:51:51 AM
So wait a minute, if I put a PAF on an EB2 it's going to sound like this? Because I really liked Phil's clean tone (not the bass cut position though) and it sounded nothing like my old too-muddy-to-keep EB2C. If I still had it I'd try to hide a PAF under the big Sidewinder cover.

If there were no string spacing issues, I don't see why not. A humbucker sized pickup wound to PAF specs but with four poles and slugs ought to work.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: ilan on March 19, 2018, 02:56:46 PM
If there were no string spacing issues, I don't see why not. A humbucker sized pickup wound to PAF specs but with four poles and slugs ought to work.
I don't see a problem here. Rickenbacker toasters are the same part for guitar and bass - with 6 magnet slugs. Fender Musicmaster pickups - same part for bass and guitar, 6 pole pieces under the blank cover. Both work great (the Ric toaster is even better than the 4-pole button-top pickup, that has a noticeable volume drop when you bend a string). Vintage 1960 Hofner toasters - same thing. 80's Carvin is another example.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: amptech on March 19, 2018, 11:35:16 PM
So wait a minute, if I put a PAF on an EB2 it's going to sound like this? Because I really liked Phil's clean tone (not the bass cut position though) and it sounded nothing like my old too-muddy-to-keep EB2C. If I still had it I'd try to hide a PAF under the big Sidewinder cover.

Go for it! I can only speak for my two EB-6 (converted EB-0's) solidbodies, but a PAF (or any kind of typical Gibby guitar humbucker)
in my ears is perfect for bass.  I made one pickup PAF and the other with tall bobbins and slug side with blade polepiece (both for neck position) but both sounds pretty much the same. No difference when bending (blade vs. normal).

My opinion is that both the EB-2 and EB-3 (and EB-0 for that matter) would have benefitted from having guitar pickups.
I made P-90's and even the alnico (les paul custom) pickup in bass version, all great sounding and looks good. There is no lack of bottom of course, you just lose those woofy subs and that is a good thing in many situations. I love the mud, but for my part
I need a special 'setup' each time I use my mud solo'd.

Of course, a mud and the small humbucker gave it the looks and made them not so alike the guitars..
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Dave W on March 20, 2018, 08:02:04 AM
I don't see a problem here. Rickenbacker toasters are the same part for guitar and bass - with 6 magnet slugs. Fender Musicmaster pickups - same part for bass and guitar, 6 pole pieces under the blank cover. Both work great (the Ric toaster is even better than the 4-pole button-top pickup, that has a noticeable volume drop when you bend a string). Vintage 1960 Hofner toasters - same thing. 80's Carvin is another example.

It's true in those cases, and from what amptech says, it will work with a Gibson guitar humbucker. That doesn't mean it will work in all cases. Depends on the magnetic field of the pickup, and that depends on the particular  design.

IIRC Chris P. said  that one of the recent Gibson basses with a guitar sized HB was actually a guitar pickup.

Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: ilan on March 20, 2018, 08:44:38 AM
And why not wire the switch to coil split and get two usable sounds, assuming no one uses the bass-cut.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 20, 2018, 07:17:38 PM
The baritone is a useful option (heresy, I know - especially coming from me, a devoted Mud Monk) - that sort of mod is what push pull switches on the back of pots are for.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 21, 2018, 06:23:23 AM
Carter vintage has one for $3,500 less.
https://cartervintage.com/collections/basses/products/gibson-eb-6-1960
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 21, 2018, 07:32:41 AM
Non original baritone switch (an improvement really)  but otherwise in great shape.  Still out of reach for most of us, but that is almost a reasonable price.

Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: ilan on March 21, 2018, 09:10:49 AM
Glad I'm past my Bass VI days (had a Fender and a 1960 Dano), otherwise I'd be itching right now. Back in the day I really wanted to find a Gibson, either an SG or 335 shape.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Chris P. on March 22, 2018, 01:45:10 AM
Dano lipsticks are the same for guitar and bass too. Musicmaster of course. And yes. A Gibson designer told me the 335 Bass had normal humbuckers. It sounded good so they used it.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Grog on March 22, 2018, 06:47:28 AM
Both pickups on the Les Paul Signature guitar & the one pickup on the Les Paul Signature Bass are the same exact pickup. The ES Les Paul & the Les Paul Standard Oversized Bass both have guitar humbucker sized pickups.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Dave W on March 22, 2018, 08:55:47 AM
Dano pickups and other bar or blade pickups will be fine as longas they are wide enough to cover all strings but that's beside the point. The question is whether a 6 pole pickup will do for a 4 string bass. The answer is, sometimes.
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Grog on March 22, 2018, 05:15:39 PM
I found this 50's Gibson EM-150 for my brother-in-law about 15 years ago at a good price. Someone had replaced the original four pole P-90 with a period correct six pole. Although it always bugged me that it wasn't a four pole, I don't think it effected the sound at all................

(https://i.imgur.com/GgqJPid.jpg)
Title: Re: EB-6 in great condition
Post by: Granny Gremlin on March 23, 2018, 08:18:04 AM

I am amazed at Dave's patience here.  Seriously guys, you'd all flunk the LSAT.