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I'm familiar with the band name but wouldn't have recognized the guy. That said, this does not surprise me at all. As long as you can sell all those lawyer bursts, right?
Uhum! :mrgreen:
(https://media.tenor.com/images/b390e5f267633c6e1720a06b66537dc6/tenor.gif)
But I'm in a peaceful mood given that I'm listening to your deadringer brother Michael McDonald's new album as I type.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80lbgZD5z-s
Not at all my friend. That's just what they call the multi-thousand dollar Les Paul reissues over here. The ones that never get played but look nice on the wall. You PLAY your guitars; buy vintage and new, and are not afraid to call it like you see it where Henry is concerned. And tell my brother to let me play bass for him on the next go 'round!
ESP even has a taco guitar. Maybe a taco bass some day, too? I'm seriously wanting to go to Taco Bell right now.
http://www.espguitars.com/videos/2033542
George, your link isn't complete. I found this.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/mastodons_kelliher_i_left_gibson_because_they_treat_artists_like_shit_that_company_is_falling_apart.html
Thank you, Dave. I should have checked that.
That's disheartening news for our beloved brand. The Gibson company's legacy deserves much better standard of representation. I hope they can get their act together.
Ouch! Bad news for Gibson. Really interesting to hear this from a former endorsing artist's perspective.
I don't doubt what he says is true, but he also seems to have a "You cant fire me, I Quit!" attitude going on.
Quote from: 66Atlas on October 07, 2017, 10:01:28 AM
I don't doubt what he says is true, but he also seems to have a "You cant fire me, I Quit!" attitude going on.
Exactly! They non-renewed his contract, not the other way around. He whines about Gibson not having "his gauges" (whatever they might be) and apparently thinks that's responsible for buyers' guitars not being tuned. Huh? I looked it up on Gibson's website, it's an Explorer with mini-Grovers and the usual tune-o-matic.
OTOH I can believe that Gibson may not have handled it well. From what we've heard, they didn't do right by Lee Sklar or Meshell Ndegeocello.
Yes he got fired and might be angry just because of that. But what he says kind of echoes what I have suspected regarding Gibsons management. This quote for example:
"All the guys I worked with over there - the A&R guys were getting fired left and right and the company just seemed to be falling apart to me. There were new guys who would come in and they didn't know shit.
Are those guys fired because they are incompetent or because they are competent and thus not willing to ride on the same ship as the Captain?
Henry has a reputation for firing people without a valid reason. There's no way for us to know if that's true unless one of us wants to go work for Gibson. Any volunteers? :mrgreen:
I beg to differ. If you have an artist with such idiosyncratic tuning,
Bill Kelliher (born March 23, 1971) is a musician from Atlanta, Georgia, best known as rhythm ... one whole step, C G C F A D), and another tuning similar to D standard, but with the sixth string tuned down to A (A G C F A D), on the Explorer.
then you either get it right or don't bother. The kids who buy his signature Explorer want it to sound like him.
What he writes does indeed remind me of what Hetfield said about Metallica's slated collaboration with Gibson not working, ESP OTOH has a reputation of bending over backwards to please their endorsers.
Mastodon has quite a reputation and popularity, they are sort of in a no-man's-land of 2nd generation proggish nu-metal, but have their ardent followers and always get good reviews in the scene mags.
Considering the metal image that ESP has, if someone had asked me what Mastodon's guitarist played, I would have guessed ESP anyway, without, of course, being aware of the history with Gibson. Also, i thought Mastodon had been around since at least the mid-90s, but they formed in 2000.
Never had an issue with ESP, they have their niche and do what they do well.
Quote from: uwe on October 09, 2017, 06:11:54 AM
I beg to differ. If you have an artist with such idiosyncratic tuning,
Bill Kelliher (born March 23, 1971) is a musician from Atlanta, Georgia, best known as rhythm ... one whole step, C G C F A D), and another tuning similar to D standard, but with the sixth string tuned down to A (A G C F A D), on the Explorer.
then you either get it right or don't bother. The kids who buy his signature Explorer want it to sound like him.
What he writes does indeed remind me of what Hetfield said about Metallica's slated collaboration with Gibson not working, ESP OTOH has a reputation of bending over backwards to please their endorsers.
Mastodon has quite a reputation and popularity, they are sort of in a no-man's-land of 2nd generation proggish nu-metal, but have their ardent followers and always get good reviews in the scene mags.
I had never heard of him or the band. It's obvious from the article that he had a non-standard tuning, but normally signature guitars leave the factory in standard tuning with the usual string gauges, no matter if the signature artist uses a different tuning; e.g. Fender's SRV Strat comes in standard tuning strung with10s, not tuned to Eb with 13s. That's exactly what I'd expect Gibson to do unless he had a signed agreement with them to do otherwise. I'm guessing that he didn't, and that he was a pain in the ass.
If a buyer expects to be able to drop a step or two and still be able to use Gibson's usual 09-46 strings to drop a step or two, he needs an education. You buy the proper gauge strings and pay a tech to set it up if you don't know how.
Maybe ESP agreed to do it differently. If he's happy with them, that's great.
I once bought an Iceman signature bass consciously strung B E A D (the Sharlee D'Angelo one - fron Scandinavian heavy metallers Arch Enemy) and they had tuned it to E A D G at the factory notwithstanding the outsize strings! :mrgreen: Man, that bass was hard to play coming out of the case :o until I realized what had gone wrong! (I changed it to an E A D G set.) Said a lot about Ibanez structural quality that the neck took it without bowing.
Where a player uses such an extreme tuning, not using the correct gauges and not tuning the instrument that way is kind of self-defeating. The guy is a dedicated downtuned rhythm guitarist, he basically plays a baritone Explorer with weird power chords, hard to see who would buy his signature model and play the Free Bird solo with it. It's like someone buying a Lemmy Ric and complaining that it is not really good for slap technique.
Quote from: uwe on October 10, 2017, 12:59:24 PMI once bought an Iceman signature bass consciously strung B E A D (the Sharlee D'Angelo one - fron Scandinavian heavy metallers Arch Enemy) and they had tuned it to E A D G at the factory notwithstanding the outsize strings!
You can't get good help these days. :rolleyes: Doesn't seem like too much to ask.
It made for muscular playing. :)
I'm not up on ESP's signature guitars, but this one (from the latest GC flyer) looks like it's well worth the price. ???
(http://www.tdpri.com/attachments/guitar-jpg.459274/)
The ESP signature instruments for Metallica have always been astronomically priced. Kirk's signature super Strat was over $5k and Het's Explorer was over $7k in 1991 BEFORE the Black Album made them huge. The ones in catalogs are their "LTD" line, which are made in other Asian mass production facilities outside of Japan.
ESP was never cheap, they don't consider themselves to be a budget or even mid-price brand, those proud sons of the rising sun!
Since we're talking about lots of shekels, here's something for your most extravagant desires.....
https://reverb.com/item/5059026-fender-custom-shop-2014-namm-prestige-hermitage-stratocaster-masterbuilt-by-yuriy-shishkov
Quote from: bassilisk on October 13, 2017, 08:16:04 AM
Since we're talking about lots of shekels, here's something for your most extravagant desires.....
https://reverb.com/item/5059026-fender-custom-shop-2014-namm-prestige-hermitage-stratocaster-masterbuilt-by-yuriy-shishkov
Thank goodness they're offering free shipping, otherwise I wouldn't be able to afford it.
Quote from: bassilisk on October 13, 2017, 08:16:04 AM
Since we're talking about lots of shekels, here's something for your most extravagant desires.....
https://reverb.com/item/5059026-fender-custom-shop-2014-namm-prestige-hermitage-stratocaster-masterbuilt-by-yuriy-shishkov
Dang, no whammy bar. Pass!
Meh, not my color.
Needs a tort pick guard and some relic-ing.
Metal guitarists really have strikingly different taste than classic rock / blues guys, don't they? Ebony/maple neck plus active EMGs ... I bet that thing is incredibly bright.
Metal guitarists (and vocalists) can also have quite a different interpretation of country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZIZ15py6Sw
Quote from: westen44 on October 17, 2017, 10:40:30 AM
Metal guitarists (and vocalists) can also have quite a different interpretation of country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZIZ15py6Sw
At least it's a real country song, unlike the wannabe-frat boy party rock that passes for country today.
Quote from: Dave W on October 17, 2017, 09:32:19 PM
At least it's a real country song, unlike the wannabe-frat boy party rock that passes for country today.
I agree. I think they are giving Hank respect, too. As for the new country crap, I hardly know what to say about it. I may hate it as much as you do, though. It is a massacre of actual country music. I give it a zero rating for authenticity.
A few months ago I radomly ended up watching a country music top 20 countdown show while my wife was getting ready to go out to dinner. It gave me plenty of time to sit through at least 10 of the 20 and not one sounded like country music to me. If anything they were all circa 1990s hip-hop rehashed with a country accent.
Bad pop music with a little twang and maybe a fiddle or steel guitar. I read an interview with that Australian country guy... (hold on, Googling...) Keith Urban. He talked about when he first went to Nashville to make a record, the producer asked him "do you want fiddle or pedal steel on this song?". He was like "Uh, neither?" Guess he ended up having to pick one. :-\
In the words of the late Steven Fromholz: :
You try to put Nashville in a nutshell
It's hard-sell town where the dollar is the king
When you're broke and drunk and standing in the rain
Nobody really cares how well you pick and sing
I suppose that's true unless you get hunted down by a Swedish television production team:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrD3Qz7u-DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGupXkJlWRU
See, that's why the welfare state/folkhemmet is a good thing. In this case: Americana folkhemmet!
Some country songs have really weird chords.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_UO7_4GLbY
This is more like it! Yet I'm sure there will be someone from the C&W ghetto police to announce shortly that it isn't country at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il7vc7jCk6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ixkCXSI7M
Who cares, as a European I don't have to masticate the point, it's all country to me ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHfSuBglk8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuVJEn9wk9Y
Quote from: uwe on October 18, 2017, 02:15:08 PM
See, that's why the welfare state/folkhemmet is a good thing. In this case: Americana folkhemmet!
Yes, the welfare state is very effective at perpetuating the conditions necessary for poverty to thrive and thus provide plenty of these downtrodden soulful musicians.
Ah yes, the old adage, if everybody takes care of himself, everyone is taken care of. 8)
I remember when Gentle On My Mind was considered "pop country." Now I think it's old school.
When I think old school, I think of Roy Acuff singing "Great Speckled Bird." I'll take the pop country by preference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Towf6nIpo
Sounds like a Status Quo song! That can never be bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7no2d90PC0
Rossi loves country and always tried to sneak influences in - his whole overt penchant for major chords and major scale solos is country'ish ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXqdvKfoYO4
Quote from: Pilgrim on October 18, 2017, 03:21:13 PM
I remember when Gentle On My Mind was considered "pop country." Now I think it's old school.
When I think old school, I think of Roy Acuff singing "Great Speckled Bird." I'll take the pop country by preference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Towf6nIpo
That's what my much older uncle sings at family gatherings. I'm pretty sure there are far better examples of old country than that. Stuff like that makes me shudder. I've been around country music all my life and know something about it. However, I'm no expert. Dave, however, actually is a country expert. I've been around them enough to know.
I'm sure Dave will be along. I've defamed this particular song before. :P
Quote from: Pilgrim on October 18, 2017, 03:21:13 PM
I remember when Gentle On My Mind was considered "pop country." Now I think it's old school.
When I think old school, I think of Roy Acuff singing "Great Speckled Bird." I'll take the pop country by preference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Towf6nIpo
Gentle On My Mind charted much higher on Billboard's Easy Listening chart than its Hot 100 (pop) chart, and higher on its Hot 100 than its Country chart. Whatever you want to call it is okay. But The Band Perry? Not country. Not even close.
As I've said before, Great Speckled Bird is a gospel song, not a country song.
Quote from: uwe on October 18, 2017, 02:19:46 PM
Some country songs have really weird chords.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_UO7_4GLbY
This is more like it! Yet I'm sure there will be someone from the C&W ghetto police to announce shortly that it isn't country at all.
Nirvana is actually a good choice for a country cover. There have been so many bands doing bland watered-down versions of them already, there are no bones for modern Nashville to pick.
Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ixkCXSI7M
My favorite Dylan song!
QuoteWho cares, as a European I don't have to masticate the point, it's all country to me ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHfSuBglk8E
The Dixie Chicks from 1999 called and they want their sound back.
Quotehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuVJEn9wk9Y
I really used to like these kids. They're local (Greeneville) and different musically from modern "country." Unfortunately that different tack has veered toward Los Angeles of late. I worked their show a few weeks ago. Between the completely incompetent FOH hip hop wannabe and the Pro Tools rig playing the show, whatever warm fuzzies I had for them are gone. When a week later in the same venue, a 68 year old Eddie Money can roll in with a band and nothing else and still sound like he did 40 years ago with no tricks or comp tracks... yeah, screw Nashville.
I guess I'm just no purist. I remember discussions a few years back that Avril Lavigne wasn't really rock, but pop, that Garth Brooks wasn't really country, that Johnny Cash's Rick Rubin ouevre wasn't really country anymore or discussions here that if Ten Years After play a blues it's not really blues because Alvin Lee was some limey and not born in a shack in Mississippi, that Glenn Hughes or Mothers Finest were too funk to be credibly rock (or the other way around), that Joe Bonamassa is too squeaky clean to be a blues guitarist. I'd like to think that if you had, say, time machined the Ten Years After line up around the time they played Woodstock into a Cotton Club of the 30ies and given them period-correct instruments for an ad hoc gig, that they would have then sure raised a few sceptic black eyebrows at first, but won the audience over in the end.
That only music from a certain point in time and a certain place is pure, credible and the real thing is to me a notion similar to the love for vintage (and only those) instruments. There is a whole bunch of feelings attached to that type of nostalgia that have very little to do with music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdcUDErLzM8
Is'nt it more of the nuance thing? We need to narrow down everything, sort it and put it in the correct jar. How many different kinds of metal genres are there in music because of this? Oh well, Lemmy always said Motörhead played rock 'n roll and who would argue? It's just words as a short description of the music.
The Band Perry = :puke:
That's a very helpful remark. :mrgreen:
OMG, they are three young people riding the country pop wagon, worse crimes have happened. Do they really have less credibility than Suzi Quatro, The Runaways, Pat Benatar or The Bangles? Is their music more artificial than Lynn Anderson's?
How about a neo-roots cover of (early) Radiohead?
https://youtu.be/attWLjs5WWs
Admittedly, I have serious issues with Radiohead, it's elevator music for manic depressives to me, so I like this a lot better than anything I have heard by Radiohead yet.
The best thing I can say about Radiohead is that they are at least not Led Zeppelin. :mrgreen:
I'm probably being grossly unfair, but I have made several attempts with Yorke & Co., and everytime their music does nothing to me (I have several of their albums, also their legendary ones), it does so little, I don't even find it offensive, it just puts me to sleep. :bored:
I did/do like the unorthodox chord change in Creep (from a major chord to a major third step chord, but that played in major again and not - as the laws of harmony would have it - in minor), but they swiped that (by their own admission) off Albert Hammond's The Air That I Breathe. And that is a song whose chorus always sweeps me away. :gay:
So you're saying you don't like Radiohead or Led Zeppelin?
Wow! Tell us more! ;D
Jackie's got at least one LP by Lynn Anderson... but she likes all sorts of stuff... country... and western... :mrgreen:
I fail to understand Radiohead :rolleyes: and my entrails are devoured by jealousy and incomprehension at the inordinate, even obscene success of Led Zep over DP with
- a le(a)den, dragging drummer,
- a bassist you couldn't hear very well (and when he played keyboards, he didn't even wear a cape, stab the keys with a knife or tip the Hammond over),
- a terrible lyricist oooh-awing all over the place with nothing relevant, much less witty to say plus
- a sloppy lead guitarist with way too many suspended chords grating with my German-anal-retentive sense of musical order (it's either major or minor, jawohl!).
Let's not even start how they were never produced by Martin Birch and how Page's production sounds weird and all indirect, cavernous echo-y to me. I guess that hides inaccurate playing better. :-X
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
My son, when he's trying to be (very) mean to me (his Page impressions are much better than his Blackmore ones), says that I simply don't hear the sex in Led Zep's music while DP is devoid of that and just cerebral and well-executed, but lacks "mojo". And the he adds that I play too many thirds when playing bass and if he made a bass for me he'd take the thirds out on the fretboard! :mrgreen:
Radiohead is neither cerebral nor sexy to me. Not a lot of thirds either. Useless really.
If I keep feigning surprise, will Uwe keep going? ;D
Quote from: gearHed289 on October 19, 2017, 08:30:38 AM
The Band Perry = :puke:
:toast:
Quote from: uwe on October 19, 2017, 10:45:13 AM
That's a very helpful remark. :mrgreen:
OMG, they are three young people riding the country pop wagon, worse crimes have happened. Do they really have less credibility than Suzi Quatro, The Runaways, Pat Benatar or The Bangles? Is their music more artificial than Lynn Anderson's?
They are a credible easy listening pop band. Nothing country about 'em.
Quote from: Dave W on October 19, 2017, 11:00:33 PM
They are a credible easy listening pop band. Nothing country about 'em.
I take just as much exception to the term "band" being applied to them as I do "country:" pure high fructose saccharine.
Quote from: slinkp on October 19, 2017, 04:51:12 PM
If I keep feigning surprise, will Uwe keep going? ;D
I rest my (Zeppelin) case, I've pretty much summed it up now. :mrgreen:
You have to move a Zeppelin case when you relocate Ze Kollection...? I never realised CC's offices were that big...! I thought they normally had a hanger... :o
Gotta agree about most Zeppelin. I liked the first couple albums. That's it.
Quote from: uwe on October 19, 2017, 10:45:13 AMDo they really have less credibility than Suzi Quatro, The Runaways, Pat Benatar or The Bangles? Is their music more artificial than Lynn Anderson's?
I don't own anything by any of those acts. I find the Perry kids more in line with the Partridge Family.
Quote from: uwe on October 19, 2017, 02:20:22 PMMy son, when he's trying to be (very) mean to me (his Page impressions are much better than his Blackmore ones), says that I simply don't hear the sex in Led Zep's music while DP is devoid of that
Your son knows what's up. ;D
But I like(d) David Cassidy too! :gay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdf8B__fXg
Quote from: gearHed289 on October 20, 2017, 09:29:05 AM
Your son knows what's up. ;D
Sigh I, it's a conviction he adamantly holds, yes.
Quote from: Highlander on October 20, 2017, 08:00:20 AM
You have to move a Zeppelin case when you relocate Ze Kollection...? I never realised CC's offices were that big...! I thought they normally had a hanger... :o
Sigh II, nothing will ever hindenburg you from misunderstanding me!
(But the hanger/hangar bit was brilliant! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )
Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on October 20, 2017, 01:47:47 AM
I take just as much exception to the term "band" being applied to them as I do "country:" pure high fructose saccharine.
That's a good description.
Not as bad as Rascal Flatts, though. First time I heard them, I thought they must be a boy band.
If were going down a rabbit hole of horrible "country" acts I'd like to nominate Florida Georgia Line as the worst of them all. If for no other reason than their collaboration with the Backstreet Boys.
Quote from: 66Atlas on October 21, 2017, 06:17:31 AM
If were going down a rabbit hole of horrible "country" acts I'd like to nominate Florida Georgia Line as the worst of them all. If for no other reason than their collaboration with the Backstreet Boys.
They were the worst long before that. :)
I don't know that the "new" formula country bothers me any more than the "new" formula pop sound, including the millenial warble. I don't find them offensive as much as I find them like caffeine free diet Coke - no substance, no flavor.
Of course, both of them make blues (including 50 year old blues recordings) and classic rock sound pretty darn good.
Our NPR affiliate split into two stations, one of which is news/talk and the other is all music. They seem to know contemporary music well, and they do a nice job of avoiding formula music and playing stuff that seems to have some merit. They make pretty good listening and surprise me with new stuff. I've pretty much given up on following new music, but at least that station is interesting.
Quote from: Pilgrim on October 21, 2017, 08:25:29 PM
I don't know that the "new" formula country bothers me any more than the "new" formula pop sound, including the millenial warble. I don't find them offensive as much as I find them like caffeine free diet Coke - no substance, no flavor.
My thoughts also. I believe these acts are mostly for people with less genuine interest in music and who use it as easy listening background noise while doing their dishes.
Quote from: doombass on October 22, 2017, 04:20:56 AM
My thoughts also. I believe these acts are mostly for people with less genuine interest in music and who use it as easy listening background noise while doing their dishes.
Exactly. Same with music sales. As T Bone Burnett once said
"We live in an age of music for people who don't like music. The record industry discovered some time ago that there aren't that many people who actually like music. For a lot of people, music's annoying, or at the very least they don't need it. They discovered if they could sell music to a lot of those people, they could sell a lot more records."
Quote from: Dave W on October 20, 2017, 09:42:50 PMNot as bad as Rascal Flatts, though. First time I heard them, I thought they must be a boy band.
Ugh... that guy with the high voice.
Quote from: 66Atlas on October 21, 2017, 06:17:31 AMIf were going down a rabbit hole of horrible "country" acts I'd like to nominate Florida Georgia Line as the worst of them all.
Not sure they're the worst, but definite contenders!
Quote from: doombass on October 22, 2017, 04:20:56 AMI believe these acts are mostly for people with less genuine interest in music and who use it as easy listening background noise while doing their dishes.
Sad but true.
I love traditional country, like this iconic duo covering Tammy Wynette's biggest hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W4RLuluK90
New country rarely has female nudity or smashing gear on stage. It's kind of staid, IMO.
Quote from: Dave W on October 25, 2017, 02:46:38 PM
I love traditional country, like this iconic duo covering Tammy Wynette's biggest hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W4RLuluK90
Sorry Dave, to me that's just noise.
Quote from: Pilgrim on October 25, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
Sorry Dave, to me that's just noise.
That was a joke, son.
Iconic duo... and Lemmy...? :vader:
Quote from: Dave W on October 25, 2017, 10:04:37 PM
That was a joke, son.
Herd to tell, sometimes. You're such a rebel..... 8)
I guess this is country music? Check out Warren Haynes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNMUkAN2muk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38PUii2SSVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVy2xLl5WxU&list=PLE80B70723F162607&index=5
Even to me as a music liberal that is not country by any stretch! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
But it's good music.
But fringed shirts and a slide guitar emulating a steel guitar do a country song not make.
Or Richard Ashcroft and Trapeze are country stars too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ga0oZANsnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivSMRe4SUVI
Is there any way to hook an mp3 into a post that's not on youtube?
David Allan Coe is a country artist but that doesn't mean every song he does is country.
I think you'll have to admit that these are country.
His most famous composition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hidk2V_S63g
This was co-written by Dan Seals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boyvx3FpwaY
Quote from: bassilisk on October 26, 2017, 03:08:38 PM
Is there any way to hook an mp3 into a post that's not on youtube?
It has to be hosted somewhere, e.g. on Soundcloud.
Alas!, the lines do blur.
But even if they didn't, if Dave sez it's country, it is. :mrgreen:
I'd say anything Coe performs instantly becomes Country because he is the embodiment of Country. Country is sort of a generic term without it's musical association. Why is it that America has the sole privilege of calling it's particular genre of folk music country while other countries don't? Shouldn't a polka band or even an Indonesian Gamelan group have the right to refer themselves similarly as country musicians?
Now based on the prevailing definition, I'm confident this can still be considered country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUH4Wn-O6Ok
Quote from: Dave W on October 26, 2017, 09:06:08 PM
David Allan Coe is a country artist but that doesn't mean every song he does is country.
Saw him years ago at an Irish club in North London... did a well received country set then came back with an electric set, very Allman's styled... people walked in their droves... Personally thought it was great...!
I went to see support act Steve Young, best known for Seven Bridges Road...
I understand the terminology annoyance... But Don't other countries have many different genres of "folk" music with different names? "Country" here means something quite different than "folk music from rural areas", a category that would include both bluegrass and delta blues among other things. I think. I don't really understand any genre family tree very well :)
Quote from: 4stringer77 on October 27, 2017, 01:58:23 PM
I'd say anything Coe performs instantly becomes Country because he is the embodiment of Country. Country is sort of a generic term without it's musical association. Why is it that America has the sole privilege of calling it's particular genre of folk music country while other countries don't? Shouldn't a polka band or even an Indonesian Gamelan group have the right to refer themselves similarly as country musicians?
Traditional American country music is what's considered country music in Europe. Traditional American country and rockabilly performers have bigger followings in Europe than in North America. Of the three biggest country record collectors I know, one's in Sweden and one's in Finland. The third lives in Oregon but he's a Brit. Bear Family Records in Germany is the world's biggest traditional country record label by far, and their predecessors kept the flame alive by making compilations from old singles.
Just because I want to post it again, here's my favorite Czech country band.
https://youtu.be/IZvpHwoQfqk
Dave... you are incorrigible... :mrgreen:
Very authentic, when is their next world tour?
Quote from: 66Atlas on October 29, 2017, 12:08:35 PM
Very authentic, when is their next world tour?
If they aren't touring near you, then go to YouTube and look up girls on trampolines. The visuals are similar.
They tour quite a bit in Europe.
Linda Jarošová, the fiddler, left the band a few years ago. She plays in a couple of other bands. I'd like to do a tour of her thighs.
Can't find her thighs but she has an FB page for you to like... ;)
Linda Jarosova on FB (https://www.facebook.com/211480422597676/photos/a.211480452597673.1073741825.211480422597676/211480462597672/?type=3&theater)
Quote from: Highlander on October 30, 2017, 03:56:45 AM
Can't find her thighs but she has an FB page for you to like... ;)
Linda Jarosova on FB (https://www.facebook.com/211480422597676/photos/a.211480452597673.1073741825.211480422597676/211480462597672/?type=3&theater)
Thanks, Ken, but I had already found her page several years ago. :)
I've also seen a few YT videos of her recent bands. Good music but no choreography like the Country Sisters.
Do you mean... long trousers (pants) and no shorts...? :o
Quote from: Highlander on October 30, 2017, 05:33:30 PM
Do you mean... long trousers (pants) and no shorts...? :o
'fraid so.
Linda in RACR (Czech country band) (https://www.facebook.com/racrcountry/)
https://youtu.be/GjSRQY1R62w?list=PLAhQE9iCG1iA6z-KBq7QcC9GuJwCFsese
She's also in the Moonshine Howlers, and she made a guest appearance with the Country Sisters this spring, playing Diggy Liggy Lo, in long pants.
Your little girl's all grown up... ;)