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Title: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Granny Gremlin on April 09, 2018, 09:49:26 AM
Apparently exclusive to the Canadian market (first I am hearing) here's the Epiphone Ltd Edition Custum Shop  "EB-3 Negative"

https://toronto.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/d/epiphone-ltd-edition-cs-eb-3/6553982626.html

I'd be interested but for the maple board.  I expect some to be tempted by the black hardware. 

Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 09, 2018, 11:15:13 AM
Not bad. Reminds me of those John Birch things Jim Lea played.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: slinkp on April 09, 2018, 11:35:02 AM
I like it! Are the pups closer to vintage eb3 or modern SG?
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Granny Gremlin on April 09, 2018, 12:12:23 PM
They are most likely the exact same pups Epi used on their EB3s (elitist or otherwise - all the same ) which are NOT the same as the SG reissue (TB in Mud clothing as Uwe would say).  Only diff would be the cover powdercoat.

Not bad. Reminds me of those John Birch things Jim Lea played.

Actually yeah.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Dave W on April 09, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Probably not a Canadian exlusive, probably an exclusive to a chain that happens to be in Canada. Like Canadian Tire or Tim Horton's.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: gearHed289 on April 10, 2018, 06:55:50 AM
Looks like Dave is right - https://www.talkbass.com/threads/epiphone-eb-3-negative-bass.849769/ (https://www.talkbass.com/threads/epiphone-eb-3-negative-bass.849769/)
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Dave W on April 10, 2018, 09:15:58 AM
Looks like Dave is right - https://www.talkbass.com/threads/epiphone-eb-3-negative-bass.849769/ (https://www.talkbass.com/threads/epiphone-eb-3-negative-bass.849769/)

I'm surprised that no one here noticed this back in 2012. Considering the size of Long & McQuade, there must be at least a couple hundred of these around.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2018, 11:39:10 AM
A maple board for a Canadian EB-3 limited run - life's ironies ...
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Highlander on April 10, 2018, 03:18:32 PM
Do you have one...?
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 10, 2018, 03:35:45 PM
Naw, I'm fine with my one Epi Elitist.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: gearHed289 on April 11, 2018, 06:46:11 AM
But this one is LONG scale!  ;D
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Granny Gremlin on April 11, 2018, 07:35:36 AM
And maple board which is unheard of on an EB.  The bonus is you gett the black hardware  :toast:  It's not even pricey. But yeah, how many Epi EB3s does one man need. Even such a large man.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 13, 2018, 05:55:18 AM
But this one is LONG scale!  ;D

If you think that bass is long scale then your significant other should treat all your allegations about size with great caution. The HOLY IMMACULATE THREE POINT would be sliding off the butt of the body if that were the case.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: doombass on April 13, 2018, 12:04:47 PM
If you think that bass is long scale then your significant other should treat all your allegations about size with great caution. The HOLY IMMACULATE THREE POINT would be sliding off the butt of the body if that were the case.  :mrgreen:

I'd say that one is indeed as longscale as the regular Epi EB-3. I can't see any difference in bridge positions:

(https://images.talkbass.com/attachments/negeb3-jpg.1901462/)


(https://58eca9fdf76150b92bfa-3586c28d09a33a8c605ed79290ca82aa.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/epiphone-eb-3-sg-bass-limited-edition-white-256756.jpg)
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Dave W on April 13, 2018, 02:13:14 PM
Yes, definitely the same bridge placement as a regular Epi EB-3. They both have 22 frets as opposed to 19 or 20 on the old Gibsons. Longer neck = shorter distance from the neck pocket to the bridge.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 16, 2018, 11:16:19 AM
I knew that the original Epi EB-3 reissue was long scale (I even played one once), but I wasn't aware that they had stuck the neck farther out to pull up the bridge . That must have killed any balance of the thing even though Epi EB-3 bodies are quite a bit heavier than anything Gibson ever offered.

I have erred. RearHead gearHed, I apologize, you must be huge!!!
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Chris P. on April 19, 2018, 01:55:13 AM
Strange: I reviewed the Höfner Verythin Longscale recently. The bare body is slighty different than the shortscale, but the necks are exactly the same length! You just can't reach less highter frets on the Long Scale  - and why should we. of course the short has more frets and the bridge is more positioned to the center of the body.

The short scale was first and that one has quite a long neck for a shorty. The Long Scale is more 'normal'.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Basvarken on April 19, 2018, 03:36:18 AM
I read it three times. But still don't understand what you're saying Chris.  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 19, 2018, 03:43:56 AM
That's just the way Dutch as a language is, Rob. It corrodes all logical thinking. A language of Barbarians for Barbarians!  :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leZar6XQLcQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhCnHJGk4TU

Actually, the mellowness (to deutsche Ohren at least) of the Dutch tongue around the edges goes nicely with the music. This would sound a lot more abrasive and ragged in German.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Basvarken on April 19, 2018, 03:52:45 AM
Haha, I know Dutch language sounds like a throat disease to most of you.
It has a lot of Germanisms in it by the way.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 19, 2018, 03:58:46 AM
It's a German dialect in origin (one which we gave up on, but you insisted to keep it!). Interestingly, I find Dutch easier to understand when reading it (because you pronounce things so differently from us), but from my Dutch clients I hear the opposite: They say understanding German orally comes easier to them than reading it - that is hard work for them.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Basvarken on April 19, 2018, 04:26:42 AM
Sometimes it can be quite difficult yes:

Wenn ist das nun Stück gitt und Schlottermeyer? - Ja: Bayer-Hund. Das, oder die Flipper-Wald Gespütt!

(Netflix has the entire Monty Python catalogue online since a few days. Been binge watching...)
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Dave W on April 19, 2018, 11:28:53 AM
I understand exactly what Chris is saying.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 19, 2018, 05:22:33 PM
Your empathy is notorious!
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Alanko on April 23, 2018, 05:28:43 AM
I understand exactly what Chris is saying.

Same! I think...

To take Chris' example further, those Fender Rascal basses measure out as being the same overall length, from headstock tip to strap button, as a P or J bass. A 34'' bass isn't always 4'' longer, in total, than a 30'' bass, because you can move the bridge inland on the body. This is why a Rascal may feel bigger than a Mustang, even though the scale length is the same. What you might sacrific along the way is upper fret access, but again this varies with design.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Pilgrim on April 23, 2018, 08:11:21 AM
Yup. IIIRC my Casady bass (34" scale) was the same overall length or a bit shorter than my Gretsch 5123 hollowbody (32").
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: slinkp on April 23, 2018, 06:43:53 PM
Oh yeah. I currently have only 34" scale basses, but the LPB1 feels at least an inch longer than the others. The bridge is a bit far from the back of the body and the body is compact, so the neck sticks way out from where the body hangs. I think the reason it doesn't neck dive is because they compensated by making the body extra thick and heavy.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Dave W on April 23, 2018, 06:59:26 PM
Oh yeah. I currently have only 34" scale basses, but the LPB1 feels at least an inch longer than the others. The bridge is a bit far from the back of the body and the body is compact, so the neck sticks way out from where the body hangs. I think the reason it doesn't neck dive is because they compensated by making the body extra thick and heavy.

But with the LPB series, the neck isn't longer, it just sticks out longer. It's not likely to neck dive unless it's as light as an SG body.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: slinkp on April 23, 2018, 07:18:17 PM
But with the LPB series, the neck isn't longer, it just sticks out longer.

That's what I was saying. It's the same scale as my other basses, but it doesn't feel like it.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Chris P. on April 24, 2018, 01:35:16 PM
For Rob:

Verythin (Long Scale) LS and (Short Scale) SC: neck sticks out of the body at the same lenght. So the basses are exactly the same length from strap lock at the back to the top of the  headstock. But with the SC the bridge is more positioned to the middle of the body, while it's more to the back at the LS. Because the space between the frets starts narrower at the top with the short scale the same neck/fretboard fits more frets than the long scale.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 24, 2018, 01:43:22 PM
(Uwe observing) Admittely, he's very patient with him.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/1229mlttgo8aR2/giphy.gif)

No one is left behind in The Netherlands.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Basvarken on April 25, 2018, 01:59:23 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/26gsrcXUD8z1bjj8c/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 25, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
Rob's condition is improving all the time and he is making great leaps forward!

(http://www.nederlandmonumentenland.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Zonnestraal1-800x508.jpg)
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Chris P. on April 26, 2018, 02:00:57 AM
My father got tuberculosis when he was young and he was in that Hilversum sanatorium for weeks. Tens of years later it was a hospital and my grandmother was there for a while for a cancer operation.

I think it's still a hospital and it's a candidate for the Unesco World Heritage List.
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: Basvarken on April 26, 2018, 05:29:47 AM
Yep!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Zonstrhoofd01voorkant.jpg/2880px-Zonstrhoofd01voorkant.jpg)


And yes, I'm making great progress

(https://media.giphy.com/media/mhfkAZR3F8q3K/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Interestiong (Epi) EB3 variant
Post by: uwe on April 26, 2018, 11:08:39 AM
The architecture sure is something. Coming from a country generally known for a more rural style I mean.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c0/10/82/c010823c5c1bca46c67d94742e33e78a.gif)