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Title: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Pekka on July 17, 2010, 07:01:18 AM
http://photofeatures.photoshelter.com/image?&_bqG=0&_bqH=eJzLLbKIjAwvTTLycjavjMwsNvTOrkgsjYoPyTSwMrQyNDAAYSDpGe_m6eMa7.fo62qbYmBqYGKRqBZcmpSbWWLrkl.el5OfmKIdkpFZrO2Zm5ieqoakPN7Rz8W2RC3e0TnEtjg1sSg5AygbGuwaFO_pYhsKMrzYMNQyPdPMNMMnXa2gIN0WaCMA_P0urA--&GI_ID= (http://photofeatures.photoshelter.com/image?&_bqG=0&_bqH=eJzLLbKIjAwvTTLycjavjMwsNvTOrkgsjYoPyTSwMrQyNDAAYSDpGe_m6eMa7.fo62qbYmBqYGKRqBZcmpSbWWLrkl.el5OfmKIdkpFZrO2Zm5ieqoakPN7Rz8W2RC3e0TnEtjg1sSg5AygbGuwaFO_pYhsKMrzYMNQyPdPMNMMnXa2gIN0WaCMA_P0urA--&GI_ID=)

I didn't know he had another similarly (hideously, that is) modded 4001 with two slanted Jazz pickups and also a fretless! Also lurking behind him is the Thunderbird hat is somehow modded too. I recall seeing that bass on some Rainbow promo video.

Nazareth's Pete Agnew had the red 4001 in one pic or at least I think it was the same bass (had the Dawk mods) and Glover being Naz' producer at that time it's also very likely.
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: gearHed289 on July 17, 2010, 08:57:29 AM
Cool. I think the toaster from the black one ended up in the bridge position of the T-Bird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mSkZU8IkjE
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Pekka on July 17, 2010, 09:31:46 AM
So Roger's T-Bird is a '63-'65 II with an added (Ric?) pickup. Or 'was', I recall reading that the headstock snapped during one gig.
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on July 17, 2010, 12:58:15 PM
Coool Rics!!! ...but he needs more CIMBALS!!!!!!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Highlander on July 17, 2010, 01:04:48 PM
Dig deeper and what could you find...

http://photofeatures.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Bad-Company/G00003NoACt_nw3w/I0000lUi5YN0p2.0 (http://photofeatures.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Bad-Company/G00003NoACt_nw3w/I0000lUi5YN0p2.0)
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: hieronymous on July 17, 2010, 08:47:02 PM
Check out this page (http://www.rauenguitars.com/) - scroll down to the bottom and "Roger Glover's bass restored"

Found that while looking for this (http://www.dawksound.com/bass.html) and this (http://www.dawksound.com/rainbow.html).
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Freuds_Cat on July 18, 2010, 10:08:33 PM
Harry, I met and chatted with Greg for quite a while when he was here in Adelaide recently with John Mayall. He is a great guy and totally passionate about his basses. It was the first gig for his MTD - Michael Tobias Design and he was most exuberant about it. He kept turning our conversation around and asking me questions about my basses and setup.  Very nice guy.
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: gearHed289 on July 19, 2010, 06:32:51 AM
Check out this page (http://www.rauenguitars.com/) - scroll down to the bottom and "Roger Glover's bass restored"

Found that while looking for this (http://www.dawksound.com/bass.html) and this (http://www.dawksound.com/rainbow.html).

What is that pickup they put in the treble position on Roger's Ric???
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Bert on July 19, 2010, 11:03:40 AM
What is that pickup they put in the treble position on Roger's Ric???

Looks like a seymour duncan Rick replacement pickup to me.
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: jumbodbassman on July 19, 2010, 01:48:04 PM
neck pickup also looks wider than a ric. 

I remember seeing purple at the felt forum in support of machine head and i noticed the jazz pickups on the bass.  didn't realize about the bridge.   Funny i was there with a buddy  who was thinking about trading his EB3 for a ric until he saw this and my proding....I was a die hard pbass man at the time and he decided to keep the gibbie because of this.  Also helped me refrain from getting a ric for a few more years until i joined a prog cover band.  Then i was fortunate enough to get a burst toaster  pup from we buy guitars in NYC.  Then i was unfortunate enough to trade it for 72 tele bass (which i desroyed with bad mod and no router...)  and a SD Curlee.
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Dave W on July 19, 2010, 09:43:27 PM
From a distance it looks too large to be a Rick or the Duncan which is a drop-in replacement.
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: gearHed289 on July 20, 2010, 07:42:47 AM
Too bad - all that work to restore, and then installing some mutant pickups? The current Ric pups sound really great with a strong output. Those Duncan replacements are completely devoid of personality. I think they exist for the sole purpose of serving those who just HAVE to modify their bass.  :rolleyes: And don't get me wrong, I modify almost everything at least a little bit.  :P
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Dave W on July 20, 2010, 10:47:28 AM
...Those Duncan replacements are completely devoid of personality. I think they exist for the sole purpose of serving those who just HAVE to modify their bass.  :rolleyes: And don't get me wrong, I modify almost everything at least a little bit.  :P

Exactly. The only thing they offer is being "not Ric".
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: hieronymous on July 20, 2010, 11:21:18 AM
Ugh, for some reason I felt like I had to change the pickups in my 4001 a few months after I got it - found the duncans on eBay, put them in, and knew immediately that I had made a horrible mistake! They were out within the hour, the original pickups restored. Mine's a '76, the original pickups are very low output, but nothing a preamp can't fix and they sound heavenly!
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Bert on July 20, 2010, 11:44:20 AM
Those Duncan replacements are completely devoid of personality.

Alan Davey, formerly of Hawkwind and now with Gunslinger still has a great sound with a Duncan in neck position. Must be the remaining Rick and his bassman '70's then.
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: warriorbass05 on October 27, 2010, 10:53:51 AM
Nothing like mods to make for a snazzy discussion!
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: leftybass on October 27, 2010, 11:27:28 AM
Roger's "unmolested" FG is a fretless, correct?
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: warriorbass05 on October 28, 2010, 06:28:41 PM
Roger's "unmolested" FG is a fretless, correct?

Looks like an unmolested bass!! Wonder if he still has them all?
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Pekka on October 20, 2012, 06:21:45 AM
I wonder if this bass inspired Roger's (or Dawk's) Ric mod:)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1010_36696768500_3567_n.jpg)

It's the late great rhythm section of Wigwam, Pekka Pohjola on bass and Ronnie Österberg on drums. I believe Pohjola's WEM was modded earlier than Roger's Ric. A brilliant player and a composer.
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Pekka on November 17, 2012, 08:32:46 PM
The old url doesn't work so here it is again:
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Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: Pekka on March 06, 2013, 12:29:40 AM
Pete Agnew with (most likely) the same bass that's on the Roger's wall:
(http://www.nazareth.no/images/oldpic%20(144).jpg)
Title: Re: Roger Glover's three 4001's
Post by: bobyoung on May 25, 2013, 08:04:12 PM
What is that pickup they put in the treble position on Roger's Ric???

Very old thread but right in the article he says he put a treble pickup from an EB-3 in the treble position of Roger's Rick.