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Title: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Nocturnal on October 19, 2009, 07:55:56 PM
Probably the same setup as the Silverburst basses, but it's in sunburst. Seems a little high, unless it's not going to be an easily available model. It seems like they could sell a lot of this type of run since people seem to want chrome hardware.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Epiphone-Thunderbird-IV-Ltd-Ed-Chrome-Electric-Bass_W0QQitemZ160370975532QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2556dae32c
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: uwe on October 20, 2009, 04:33:35 AM
Beware of those guitar pups lurking in there - anybody buying this (or the Silverburst variation) should know that the chrome pups sound worse than what is normally in a stock budget Epi TBird. OTOH: If you swap the pups against real Gibson TB Plus Humbuckers (readily available over EBay a pair for 100 bucks +/-), then you have a TBird sound that doesn't need to hide itself before the real thing.

Tells you: Not everything is gold that glistens like chrome.
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: jmcgliss on October 20, 2009, 06:34:15 AM
Uwe speaks the truth.  Since changing to Gibson pups, my silverburst now has some guts.
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Hornisse on October 20, 2009, 07:25:23 AM
So these are standard humbucker sized pickups?  I wonder how they'd sound with a set of EMG-SS pickups......... :)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Dave W on October 20, 2009, 07:40:15 AM
Everything with EMGs sound like EMGs to me. NTTAWWT.
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Daniel_J on October 20, 2009, 07:44:39 AM
Pickups aside, it sure is a nice burst though. Similar to the Elitist series burst.
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: uwe on October 20, 2009, 08:08:11 AM
What's in there sounds middishly nasty and at the same time curiously flat. Does the inherent sound possibilites of this otherwise well-made bass no justice at all, Epi should kick themselves.

EMG pups are always a matter of contention here, but like them or not they would certainly upgrade this bass in sound. Personally, I like stronger mids than what EMGs generally offer. With (Gibson) TB Plus pups implanted, this bass has glistening treble, middish raunch and kick-in-the-butt fundamental ooomph.
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: chromium on October 20, 2009, 09:39:39 AM
If it helps anyone, I had made a quick recording of a stock Epi Silverburst during a brief encounter.  This should give you some idea of the tone with those geetar humbuckers.  The sound can be serviceable at times, but it is definitely not in keeping with that characteristic ballsy "Thunderbird sound"

     http://www.hillscloud.com/music/epi-silverburst-test.mp3

For this test, I had cancelled out the bass tracks on a Kraan and Meters recording and played the Epi right over the top.  In the Kraan song, I'm using a pick with the neck pickup on full, the bridge pickup rolled off just a bit, and the tone control wide open.

The second half of the clip features fingerstyle playing over a Meters song.  Here, I'm using the bridge pickup only with the tone rolled off all the way.
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: TBird1958 on October 20, 2009, 10:55:12 AM


Wouldn't it look better with black hardware  ???
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: uwe on October 20, 2009, 11:00:20 AM
Indeed, just makes you wanna bolt on too:

(http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d51649/d5164964l.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEILDbu-YSIqdzjy6jQxfljEeWj_A)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: TBird1958 on October 20, 2009, 11:47:38 AM

I think you mean strap on........... ;)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: jmcgliss on October 20, 2009, 12:52:25 PM
Well that only took a few hours.   ;D
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: TBird1958 on October 20, 2009, 12:54:42 PM


 
Well that only took a few hours.   ;D

Sorry! I'm a little slow on the uptake today  ;)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Highlander on October 20, 2009, 02:46:59 PM
I'd be in SERIOUS trouble if my wife found me buffing up a couple of those in the shed...  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Pilgrim on October 20, 2009, 04:14:37 PM
I'd be in SERIOUS trouble if my wife found me buffing up a couple of those in the shed...  :popcorn:

Squirrels aren't acceptable as chaperones?  (He asked innocently...)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: uwe on October 20, 2009, 04:41:55 PM
Squirrels with garter belts and stockings are perfectly fine. In england at least. Where rodent fetishism runs rampant. Just put on your best Jeremy Irons "Brit villain" accent and repeat after me" "Come hither little furry one ...". Secrets of the shed.
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Highlander on October 21, 2009, 02:47:28 PM
They go for your nuts, Al...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DBhRyWD4wk

Nein, Herr Hornung... Der Schuppen wird niemals verraten die Geheimnisse...  ;) (apologies for poor German translation...)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: uwe on October 21, 2009, 03:52:29 PM
On the contrary, Ken, not a bad translation at all, just the syntax is a bit garbled. It should be:

"Der Schuppen wird seine Geheimnisse niemals verraten."

Us krauts like to confuse foreigners with never-ending sentences that only reveal their meaning to the reader and the listener at the very end when we actually divulge the all-decisive verb!

"The brown shed, situated in the beautiful English countrside and harboring rampant rodents, will never its secrets give away!

You don't know what you've missed cause we didn't win. And you wouldn't be infested with those obese US squirrels either.
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: TBird1958 on October 21, 2009, 03:58:24 PM

From Chromey Epi 'Bird to bizarre rodent sex in less than two pages..................... ;) 
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Pilgrim on October 21, 2009, 04:38:19 PM
These threads are gold mines for odd band names.

Latest one:  "Secrets of the Shed".
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: SKATE RAT on October 21, 2009, 06:24:26 PM
or the Rampant Rodents
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: exiledarchangel on October 22, 2009, 05:35:10 AM
Or even "Sex with a squirrel".
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: uwe on October 22, 2009, 08:19:46 AM
What in heaven has Ken done to those poor animals?  :o


(http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.dorifun.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/squirrel-sex.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFUC6Rjbxndy7dPvy0lVsK5KC0rQg)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: TBird1958 on October 22, 2009, 09:20:24 AM

Well...........

 It *is* an island nation.
I guess they've got their own strange *local* customs  ;)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: uwe on October 22, 2009, 01:14:33 PM
Geographical areas with natural boundaries with cordoning traits such as marine waters often invite inbreeding and its usual degenerative ill effects. That alone is not a good omen for those WW II US squirrels marooned in England no matter what does or does not happen in those sound-proof sheds.
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Highlander on October 22, 2009, 02:57:45 PM
Sound-proofing...? Damn... forgot the sound-proofing...

"Secrets Of The Shed..." The shocking new book by Stephen King...  :o

Squirrel mating rituals involve the female running the males ragged, and only the fittest gets the just desserts, then they bugger off back to the "nut-bar" and leave the missus to raise the kits...! hmm... maybe we could learn a thing or two...  :o  :o  :o

Inbreeding...? hmm... and my ancestry is from an Island of the West Coast of the Island...

(http://home.btconnect.com/rdi/frazer.jpg)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: PhilT on October 22, 2009, 05:23:35 PM
Well...........

 It *is* an island nation.
I guess they've got their own strange *local* customs  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/v/cveZR4e91kU&hl=en&fs=1&
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: TBird1958 on October 22, 2009, 05:50:35 PM


 "Knocking out a crafty one"

 ;D
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: uwe on October 23, 2009, 11:05:57 AM
"play a one-man band"

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Hornisse on October 23, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
Then there are the swinging organs..........

(http://i36.tinypic.com/n1rpxu.jpg)
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: PhilT on October 23, 2009, 01:01:12 PM
That is a parody, by the way, of Flanders & Swan, who most of the people who laugh at it have never heard of. They were very popular in the late 50s, early 60s and Michael Flanders, the one in the wheelchair, had an ability to rhyme that is up there with Gilbert and Cowerd. They were generally very gentile, but sometimes ventured into territory that would now have them on the sexual offenses register.

http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/havesome.htm

Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Daniel_J on October 23, 2009, 09:37:47 PM
I need subtitles  :sad:

I get the idea, but I can't really understand everything that they're saying. It took me years of watching movies and TV shows to get a grasp of listening and understanding English but we only have "made in USA" channels on our cable down here, my ears are untrained for other types of accents ...  :-[
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: TBird1958 on October 24, 2009, 08:35:34 AM


 "my ears are untrained for other types of accents ... "

Don't feel bad! Most of us Amis really struggle with all those quaint "Island Nation" colloquilisms........ 
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Dave W on October 24, 2009, 08:54:15 AM
The real Flanders & Swann sing "A Song of Patriotic Prejudice" .  :mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vh-wEXvdW8
Title: Re: Epi sunburst & chrome bolt on model
Post by: Highlander on October 24, 2009, 01:28:01 PM
Gore-blimey-Guv'nor, Lord-love-a-duck, Strewthalmighty, 'ould-a-thought... Those Septic's Tanks think they uner'stand the Smoke's Screens English... Don't make me Jimmy Giraffe...!