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Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: Pilgrim on January 29, 2015, 03:28:23 PM
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I found this article: 15 songs EW's music staff is loving this winter. Listened to each of them for at least a minute on YouTube. (Some of them were hastily abandoned after that mark.)
I found myself asking: is their entire staff either 12 years old or gangsta? Out of the 15, there were 5 I wouldn't actively get up and change channels if I heard them on the radio, and ONE, "Lampshades of Fire" by Modest Mouse, that I listened to all the way through.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/01/22/15-songs-ews-music-staff-is-loving-this-winter-stream-them-all-here
What I found was mostly crap, and some extreme crap. I guess I'll go back to my 60's and 70's oldies now.
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No, no, just ignore anything mainstream/top 40 (with some exceptions, especially recenty, vs say the late 90s/early 2000s). Check out your local indie scene; lots of great music these days, in just about any genre you like; just not on top 40 radio.
Which reminds me. Soundgarden dude covering Billy Jean made me want to shoot myself.
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I kinda liked that cover, Jake! I even like the original. Bubbles' buddy had his moments.
But I didn't know a single song or artist on that list. :-X
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But I didn't know a single song or artist on that list. :-X
My faith in you is restored.
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But I didn't know a single song or artist on that list. :-X
I know you've heard of Modest Mouse, Uwe.... because you've said how you weren't too fond of them before :-* ... and a little surprised that you haven't heard of Nicki Minaj. ... like maybe while standing in line at the checkout counter and perusing the tabloid front pages for something to pass the time. :mrgreen:
And to clarify, I have no issue with the original Billie Jean. Chris Cornell's voice is just not something I ever found enjoyable.
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I've only heard of Nicki Minaj and Modest Mouse and don't like either.
At my age I'm happy to be out of that loop.
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I like what I've heard from Mark Ronson. Modest Mouse is one of the few bands that makes me turn off the radio. Even Johnny Marr couldn't help them .
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The only one I've heard of is Minaj and my fragile psyche can take her videos. I'll pass on the rest just out of fear.
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You guys know we're getting old , right? ;D
Rick
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLy1xWJQ4ic
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This list is good evidence of my increasing decrepitude. And I'm OK with that.
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Ignorance is bliss.
(http://andyvance.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/big-brother-1984.jpg)
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my wife reads that rag. it is not for us. my ten year old grand daughter knows all those songs, however.
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I found myself asking: is their entire staff either 12 years old or gangsta?
This ^^^
What I found was mostly crap, and some extreme crap. I guess I'll go back to my 60's and 70's oldies now.
And this ^^^
My wife and I had dinner with another couple the other night. LONG time friends, but my buddy's wife is apparently into a lot of top 40 stuff. She was offended when I ripped on Katy Perry, etc. and made a remark along the lines of "stay current old man!". She's 11 years older than me BTW. :P Anyway, my response was - it doesn't have to be in the top 40 to be current. There's good music being made out there. It's just harder to find and keep up with, especially at my advanced age! I'm totally baffled that Rolling Stone magazine treats stuff like One Direction and Justin Bieber as if it's actual art. And I'm even more baffled that any adults have an interest in it. They have about as much artistic integrity as a can of Coke.
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my wife reads that rag. it is not for us. my ten year old grand daughter knows all those songs, however.
In self-defense, neither my wife nor I subscribed to it - just started appearing. I think a number of magazines are quietly sending free copies to people so they can quote higher numbers for their circulation base.
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I'm totally baffled that Rolling Stone magazine treats stuff like One Direction and Justin Bieber as if it's actual art.
You're kidding right? Did you actually think that Rolling Stone was about real, credible music? They are in the business of MAKING MONEY. If they put One Direction or Justin Bieber on the cover, the mag sells and they make money. Mission accomplished and to hell with the fact that it's a paradigm shift from what RS started out as.
Much like the good music that's still being made out there, you need to search for alternative media to find the good stuff. Rolling Stone is garbage and has been for years.
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My wife and I had dinner with another couple the other night. LONG time friends, but my buddy's wife is apparently into a lot of top 40 stuff. She was offended when I ripped on Katy Perry
As silly as it sounds, Katy Perry, up until the last record or 2, was a standout to me as hope for top 40 pop music. This has since faded, but there was a chance there for a moment. The system is designed to dumb down and corrupt/co-opt. That's how we ended up with Kei$ha drinking her own piss on TV (and ironic metaphor for the state of things fyi).
it doesn't have to be in the top 40 to be current. There's good music being made out there. It's just harder to find and keep up with, especially at my advanced age! I'm totally baffled that Rolling Stone magazine treats stuff like One Direction and Justin Bieber as if it's actual art. And I'm even more baffled that any adults have an interest in it. They have about as much artistic integrity as a can of Coke.
Amen, brother.
You're kidding right? Did you actually think that Rolling Stone was about real, credible music? They are in the business of MAKING MONEY. If they put One Direction or Justin Bieber on the cover, the mag sells and they make money. Mission accomplished and to hell with the fact that it's a paradigm shift from what RS started out as.
Much like the good music that's still being made out there, you need to search for alternative media to find the good stuff. Rolling Stone is garbage and has been for years.
I think that was his poing. ... then again even newer upstarts like Pitchfork are also pieces of merde, though for completely opposite reasons. Never bothered with any mags really. 100 mile diet is best; if you can't relate to your local stuff (and their influences, what your buds turn you ion to) then, and only then, is it over (at least for you, the proverbial you, that is).
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most of those 'alternative or indie bands' are just as horrible as the top 40 junk. to yet again paraphrase theodore sturgeon, '90 percent of everything is crap'.
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I remember sorting through all the 45s that came into radio stations in the 60's....less than 1 in 20 was even worth listening to. Maybe one in 60 got airplay. I doubt that ratio has improved.
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I wrote a long thing in response, but thought better of it (it's the internet, to easy to misconstrue and I don't want to offend).
I'll just sum it up by saying that I actually think that attitude is part of the problem.
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I really don't know much about the indie bands, so I have no informed comment to offer in that regard. I'm one of the old mossybacks that has difficulty in regarding rap as music, often because I find little or no melody in it. Much of pop music just seems so trivial in construction that I have trouble listening to it.
Does it bother anyone else that in much popular music, most of the vocals are all chorused so that no voice leads? I always wonder whether they're not just hiding the faults of the lead singer and adding auto-correct to achieve a mechanical version of music. There definitely are pop stars with good voices, but I confess I'm not interested in searching the mass of that stuff to find them. I've heard Bruno Mars and Christina Aguilera, and those two CAN sing.
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go ahead and print it granny. i assume it will be in defense of alt bands following my less than cheerful post.
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Much of pop music just seems so trivial in construction that I have trouble listening to it.
Seems there's a standard issue template for those forgettable "hits". Applies to many genres.
This mashup demonstrates it well ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8SwIvxj8o
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Does it bother anyone else that in much popular music, most of the vocals are all chorused so that no voice leads? I always wonder whether they're not just hiding the faults of the lead singer and adding auto-correct to achieve a mechanical version of music. There definitely are pop stars with good voices, but I confess I'm not interested in searching the mass of that stuff to find them. I've heard Bruno Mars and Christina Aguilera, and those two CAN sing.
I'm sure sometimes it's done to cover up faults, other times just because it's the current style of pop. Doesn't matter to me which it is, the music annoys me so I tune it out, change the channel or turn it off.
What really bothers me is the vocal style I see on news or promo clips from the talent shows (American Idol, The Voice etc.). Apparently making a face like you're in agony, contorting your body like you're taking a particularly difficult shit, and yowling and caterwauling (even on ballads) is what passes for talent. And then there's the melisma. The audiences seem to go crazy for it. Go figure.
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You're kidding right? Did you actually think that Rolling Stone was about real, credible music? They are in the business of MAKING MONEY. If they put One Direction or Justin Bieber on the cover, the mag sells and they make money. Mission accomplished and to hell with the fact that it's a paradigm shift from what RS started out as.
Much like the good music that's still being made out there, you need to search for alternative media to find the good stuff. Rolling Stone is garbage and has been for years.
Oh, I know. I certainly don't look at RS as any kind of "moral compass" musically speaking. It's just weird that a mag seemingly geared toward college age and up covers boy bands and pop tarts. I DID enjoy the recent Stevie Nicks interview. ;D
And getting back to my dinner conversation - I explained to my friend's wife that I had recently spent 2 years playing dance/pop covers. It got to the point where I was having a hard time memorizing the stuff because it was so simple and similar. I could write "A, D, G" next to the song title on my set list, and be good to go. LOL! Of course, the next song would be "G, D, A". ;)
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... the next song would be "G, D, A".
That is already half of Knocking on Heaven's Door - or even all of it if you ignore the G,D,C part as some people do.
I don't mind well-trodden chord progressions so much. If there is an infectuous melody to it such as here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnSvrnoKiYA
Or here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1x1OEzHYjQ
Or here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
Or here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GemKqzILV4w
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Although they've been discussed here before, I'd say just the fact that Modest Mouse is considered relevant to anyone is proof enough that civilization is doomed. I'm not even trying to be funny. If there is a worse song than "Float On," I shudder to think what it must be like. I've just listened to "Lampshades on Fire" and it is only slightly better. I absolutely cannot stand that lead singer's voice.
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I didn't intend for this to be a ringing endorsement: "...and ONE, "Lampshades of Fire" by Modest Mouse, that I listened to all the way through."
Just that I could tolerate listening to it all the way through. I don't know the Modest Mouse songbook in any case.
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I didn't intend for this to be a ringing endorsement: "...and ONE, "Lampshades of Fire" by Modest Mouse, that I listened to all the way through."
Just that I could tolerate listening to it all the way through. I don't know the Modest Mouse songbook in any case.
I've had a lot of computer problems and have been sporadically checking threads such as this one. I had forgotten that you had even said that. But my comment wasn't directed toward you anyway. It's obvious, though, that I really dislike that particular band's music. Most likely it would be better if I toned down my comments on the matter; I'm sure I've made my point.
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No problem. Your comments are moderate compared to some that I have made about rap.
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Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone, but I feel the same way about metal as I feel about rap...I know a bunch of the folks in Europe seem to like metal, but I don't get it. I still like a melody and chord changes.
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No problem. Your comments are moderate compared to some that I have made about rap.
That's all right with me as long as you don't dis my man Kanye. :mrgreen: He's a genius, he said so himself. And he's married to one of the Kuntrashians. He must be great. :puke:
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No problem. Your comments are moderate compared to some that I have made about rap.
I don't like it, either. However, I came to the conclusion years ago it's pointless to get into any discussions with people who do like it.
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That's all right with me as long as you don't dis my man Kanye. :mrgreen: He's a genius, he said so himself. And he's married to one of the Kuntrashians. He must be great. :puke:
Yeah, I can't add too much to that comment. Now that he's doing Mc Cartney tunes Sir Paul just might have a career in the music biz ;D.
Rick
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That's all right with me as long as you don't dis my man Kanye. :mrgreen: He's a genius, he said so himself. And he's married to one of the Kuntrashians. He must be great. :puke:
I hope they never allow him in the room again at the Grammy awards. He's a loser. I think McCartney is being extremely tolerant in showing up on the same stage.
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I hope they never allow him in the room again at the Grammy awards. He's a loser. I think McCartney is being extremely tolerant in showing up on the same stage.
I think Sir Paul is damaging his own reputation by appearing on stage with that narcissistic no-talent hack.
Kanye probably is upset at getting less publicity lately than his stepfather-in-law who is apparently transitioning into his stepmother-in-law.
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I think Sir Paul is damaging his own reputation by appearing on stage with that narcissistic no-talent hack.
Kanye probably is upset at getting less publicity lately than his stepfather-in-law who is apparently transitioning into his stepmother-in-law.
I have the utmost respect for Paul McCartney. He is the reason I even wanted to start playing bass in the first place. But he already damaged his reputation when he collaborated with Michael Jackson. Seriously, those songs weren't exactly Beatles-level compositions. That's about as mildly as I can put it.
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I think Sir Paul is damaging his own reputation by appearing on stage with that narcissistic no-talent hack.
Indeed. I suspect he doesn't realize what a complete douche bag West is, and that he's adding legitimacy to this self congratulatory f*** face. And has anyone else noticed the d-bag's targets so far have been a young girl, and a skinny little non-threatening dude? I would have knocked those horse teeth right out of his mouth.
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Indeed. I suspect he doesn't realize what a complete douche bag West is, and that he's adding legitimacy to this self congratulatory f*** face. And has anyone else noticed the d-bag's targets so far have been a young girl, and a skinny little non-threatening dude? I would have knocked those horse teeth right out of his mouth.
Just don't hit him low, you might damage his ovaries.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/davepix/humor/kanye-douche_small_zpsaghenpnk.jpg)
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I suspect that McCartney knows exactly what he's doing at every step in the music business. Each decade seems to see him collaborating with someone that's still fresh in the market. McCartney just grows his fan base by the generations, rather than milk those that got him started and established. I also think McCartney knows what the people are like that he works with. He's been in the business long enough....hey, he had to endure Yoko and John.
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Paul's choice of people who surround him has never been, errrm, impeggable
(http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/14209/14489999_1m.jpg?v=8CF8455A0C6D0C0)
if you know what I mean! I think he revels in being popular, still current and generally liked and adulated, but deep inside he doesn't really relate to people too much. He loves his (and a lot of other) music. That's not knocking him, it's just the way he is.
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This song by Paul written when he was 16 or so has more depth than most songs you're going to find written by even the most seasoned songwriters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uk_6WWy0RA
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How seriously can one take list that doesn't have any Foghat songs on it?
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Not serious at all. "Sloooooooooooow riiiiiiide, take it eaaaaasyyyyy!!!" Nuff said, true romance was never put better in five words.