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Gear Discussion Forums => Rickenbacker Basses => Topic started by: Iome on December 13, 2010, 07:15:04 AM
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I'm looking for a 4003/4001 template to build me a lefty simil/RickandBacker bass. Could any of you help me? I've got some P,J and Gibby templates if your intersted.
Thanks
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That is not legal and RIC have a history of going after makers and sellers of unauthorized copies - even when it's just one home-made guitar. Even if you don't put a Rickenbacker nameplate on your bass or claim that it's the real thing, it's still illegal, RIC has copyrighted the silhouette and almost any other part of their guitars.
My advice... use your own design, it's more fun.
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I know, but i thought they lost their rights after 30 or 40 years. There's many brands, like Bach, Frudua and others that now sell basses with the Rick shape. And i'm using a neck with a completely different headstock, i'm only looking for the body template
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Trademark rights go on as long as the products are made. And for better or worse, RIC has a "trade dress" trademark on the body shape.
You may agree with this or not, but we don't want to draw attention to any RIC trademark issues here. If anybody has a template, they should contact Iome privately.
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What about old stuff that is out of production? Like the 3001?
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Ilan I am aware of Rics reputation for protecting their products but I'm interested in what you were saying about home builders. Surely any rights violations only come into existence once the bass is made for sale?
What law is it that stops a guy building a bass that is shaped like a Ric in his shed for his own use.
I find this interesting, just curious.
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Sure, you can build one for your own use. Just don't expect to find a template.
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There are more of them floating around, especially in Canada, but they are a hot potato. You never see them in the US. The best bet is to borrow or rent a Rick (or Univox) and do it up yourself. There was a guy who had put up a 4001 CNC program at CNCzone a while back, and that might be there still. Good luck in making one.
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Guy's, i don't want to cause any problems to this board or anyone else, i just wanted to make myself a similRick (not a clone) for my own private use and amusement. I happen to have a neck and wanted to make a Rick-look-alike body, but it will be bolt on, different headstock, different pickups and hardware and also a little different body shape. If the moderators think it's best, then please remove this thread. Otherwise, if you have a tracing, then please send me a PM ;D . I won't tell anybody :-X
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If you'll be making all those mods I suggest you trace a Pbass or other bolt on body that fits your neck. Then modify that into the Ric shape you want by using the best Ric pictures you can find and a good soft pencil and eraser ;D
The added advantage is you will know exactly where the bridge needs to be located relative to the neck pocket and centerline of the bass. Everything else you can fake.
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IThe added advantage is you will know exactly where the bridge needs to be located
Easy. Measure the distance from the nut to the 12th fret, then mark the same measurement from the 12th fret on the body.
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I'm looking for a 4003/4001 template to build me a lefty simil/RickandBacker bass. Could any of you help me? I've got some P,J and Gibby templates if your intersted.
Thanks
Kinda like this:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/DaleFortune/RussRubmans66and67RickenbackerBa-4.jpg)
Or this Lefty:
(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/GuitarWork/19743001RickBass018.jpg)
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Welcome aboard Dale! Great job on that lefty burg 3000/330WB-style hybrid and modded Monty.
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Beautys Dale!
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Hey Dale,
you meen your've made those? :o stunning work mate.
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if you want a close appoximation, of any bass, find a full, straight on picture of what you want and use an oversize scanner/copier to blow it up to the correct dimension. All you need is at least one known measurement to compare to. A little trial and errorr and you're in business. I've used this for several projects and it will get you very close. Most print/copy shops will have these devices.
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Hey Dale,
you meen your've made those? :o stunning work mate.
While I do make a lot of custom guitars and bass instruments, I only restored the Fireglo 1999 and the MontyBrown 4001. Both of these were refretted and refinished.
The other one was a genuine 3001 Rick neck from 1974 that I made the 330 style body for then did a Burgandyglo nitro finish. It was built for a fellow who 1/2 way through the project was diagnosed with cancer and had to cancel the project.
Here's a simple 330 that I took on and did double binding on the body and neck, replaced the dots markers with crushed pearl inlays, then a refret and did a lovely BlueBoy finish. I also made the Gold Guards.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/DaleFortune/Pauls330to360WBconversion003.jpg)
How about a modern LightShow 331 made using LEDs and ICs.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/DaleFortune/th_331LS007.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/DaleFortune/?action=view¤t=331LS007.mp4)
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Great job on that lefty burg 3000/330WB-style hybrid
Absolutely stunning (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/smilies/hc_love.gif)
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Beautiful. Very tastefully done.
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Beautiful work! Welcome to the 'Post, look forward to seeing your builds in Projects and Mods.
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Dale's Da Man!!! :mrgreen:
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Very nice! I'll bet that light show doesn't heat up at all like the original ones did!
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It does not even get warm. The originals used 12 volt automotive light bulbs and they built up quite a bit of heat inside the guitar body after about 5 minutes.
Here's a picture before the diffusion lenses and .125 clear plastic goes on the face of the 330, this shows the electronics and the LEDs mounted on mirrored plastic.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b53/DaleFortune/331LS006.jpg)
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Super sweet Dale! Can i see pics of my bass????
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8)
You know Jeff, my wife and I are thinking about moving somewhere near the U.P.
It depends on the house and size of property we can afford. We'd like a 1910 through 1930 bungalow type older home in good condition.
Now about your Bass....Give me a few weeks and I'll have some nice pictures.
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God Dale! That would be sweet :mrgreen:Ya know,There are some beautiful little towns up there,and the housing market is wide open right now for some great deals.You just let me know if ya need help lookin.Im up in the Marquette area alot.Gwinn,Naguanee,Ishpeming.Houghton/Hancock is absolutly beautiful.
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A beautiful show of craftmanship... 8)
Welcome aboard...