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Gear Discussion Forums => Bass Amps & Effects => Topic started by: Pilgrim on May 12, 2019, 07:49:48 AM
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I found a long-desired Genz-Benz Neo-X212T speaker at the right price on Ebay, but the carpet-style covering looks like it was attacked by leopards needing a place to sharpen their claws.
I don't need to use it right away, so I can take my time in re-covering it. And since I'm retiring June 10, I'll have time available. It's 4 ohms, which I want both for my Shuttle 6.2 head, and for use with my 1967 blackface Bassman.
I'm interested in helpful suggestions as to materials to use in re-covering the speaker. I'm sure I can use Tolex, but I'm open to to other ideas that are practical.
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Some stores sell a variety of automotive carpeting, that may work good. You may want to consider getting it done "BEFORE" you retire. I retired over two years ago & don't seem to get much of anything done. Most of my co-workers seem to say the same thing!!
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Wasn't the "carpet" used as insulation? If you were to tolex it you may need to insulate the inside with something.
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Duratex (https://www.acrytech.com/product-category/speaker-cabinet-coatings/) seems to be the go-to for recoating plywood cabinets after the carpet has been removed.
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Is that similar to Peavey cabinet covering?
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https://www.mojotone.com/TolexCarpetTweed_x#/
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Wasn't the "carpet" used as insulation? If you were to tolex it you may need to insulate the inside with something.
Nope, it's external. I'm not quite sure yet how much it wraps around the port edges on the cab, which may become a challenge.
Duratex may be the ticket. I do want to know what the surface is like; I tried using spray-on bed coating for pickups on one cab, and it looked pretty good but touching it was like rubbing against 60-grit sandpaper. OUCH! Not pleasant to tote around.
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I recall some Talkbass threads on the subject of spray-on coatings; some are apparently pretty unpleasant or even dangerous for offgassing, so it'd be good to read up before picking a specific one.
Here's one thread... https://www.talkbass.com/threads/truckbed-liner-on-speaker-cabs.625826/
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Motion Sound uses a sprayon type of covering. It seems pretty durable. Odd not having any corners....
(https://i.imgur.com/VrnCJSG.jpg)
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That does look really nice and you're right about no corners.
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Motion Sound uses a sprayon type of covering. It seems pretty durable. Odd not having any corners....
(https://i.imgur.com/VrnCJSG.jpg)
That's a really nice looking surface. I found their website will ask politely what they use. It may be proprietary or a more involved process than I want to get into.
I also called the Duratex folks and to ask what their finished surfaces are like. Their answer is that it depends on the application. For a rougher surface you roll it on with a larger-napped roller; for smoother surfaces, low or no nap on the roller. That's very similar to many home painting products.
I should have the cab late this week...I'll assess the situation but right now I'm leaning to Duratex as a practical answer. It appears to use the Henry Ford approach; any color you want, as long as it's black.
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I should have the cab late this week...I'll assess the situation but right now I'm leaning to Duratex as a practical answer. It appears to use the Henry Ford approach; any color you want, as long as it's black.
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Wasn't the "carpet" used as insulation? If you were to tolex it you may need to insulate the inside with something.
Nope. Purely cosmetic.
Duratex (https://www.acrytech.com/product-category/speaker-cabinet-coatings/) seems to be the go-to for recoating plywood cabinets after the carpet has been removed.
Seconded. Similar to what Grog was suggesting. Theres a few different brands. Basically truck bed liner ( so if you know a guy who does that with a pro spray rig....).
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Seconded. Similar to what Grog was suggesting. Theres a few different brands. Basically truck bed liner ( so if you know a guy who does that with a pro spray rig....).
I'm OK with the durability of a product similar to bed liner, but I don't want a surface finish that's like brushing against a wood rasp. I think the Duratex can be put on with a fairly smooth surface, which would be OK with me.
One advantage that surfaces like carpet have is that they rebound and cover bumps into sharp objects. Any coating can be punctured or broken, and patches will be visible, but I don't handle my gear roughly.
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I have now acquired enough Harris Tweed to re-cover my Hiwatt and will next want to try and blag enough for the Marshall 4x12 ... :mrgreen:
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I got the cab yesterday and it's actually in much better visible shape than expected. There is one place where the carpet material is rubbed through and it's loose, but I think I can glue it down and avoid the need to do a re-cover.
It's a 4-ohm cab and therefore is well suited for use with my 1967 Blackface Bassman. I also found a dock for a Genz-Benz Shuttle which I can fasten on top of the Neo-X so that I can transport them as a single (heavy) unit, but the 4-ohm cab allows full power from the Shuttle head.
I have pix but my camera stored them in some obscure place that I can't find at the moment. I'll try and find them and post them.
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Loose is good you can either spray or roll the glue under there.