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Title: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: Basvarken on March 21, 2023, 09:33:14 AM
David Kiswiney shared these pics with me.
Gibson's master builder Jim De Cola built this beautiful Thunderbird II for him.

The neck is not a nine ply laminate. But three piece mahogany.
The machine heads are Hipshot Ultra-lites.
The pickup is DeCola's reissue of the historic 60's T-Bird Pickup. He made the bridge a little hotter than the neck pickup, so they would balance better. David Kiswiney's bass has the hotter bridge position pickup.
It also has the Rex Brown Active boost via a push/pull switch on the tone control.
At the request of David the lower strap button was placed off-center, for better balance

Gibson should be taking these into production! They'd have a real winner in their hands.

(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-De-Cola-built-TB-II-David-Kiswiney12.jpg)
(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-De-Cola-built-TB-II-David-Kiswiney5.jpg)
(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-De-Cola-built-TB-II-David-Kiswiney4.jpg)
(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-De-Cola-built-TB-II-David-Kiswiney10.jpg)
(https://www.thegibsonbassbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Jim-De-Cola-built-TB-II-David-Kiswiney6.jpg)
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Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: Chris P. on March 21, 2023, 09:48:07 AM
That's so pretty! I think a one pickup Tbird is my holy grail. In white!
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: morrow on March 21, 2023, 12:08:24 PM
There’s a lot to be said for two knob simplicity.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: TBird1958 on March 21, 2023, 03:18:41 PM

 
 I want that bass!     


Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2023, 04:09:43 PM
I'm not Mr Nostalgia, but this looks nice and well-done.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: BTL on March 21, 2023, 04:56:06 PM
Gorgeous!
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: uwe on March 21, 2023, 08:01:31 PM
Let's not get carried away.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: Stjofön Big on March 22, 2023, 02:09:20 AM
That work is pure magic! The future as we saw it, in 1963. How much?
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: gearHed289 on March 22, 2023, 07:09:06 AM
Great looking bass, and well thought out. The relocated strap pin is a good idea. Hamer started doing that in the 70s on their Standards (Explorers).
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: OldManC on March 22, 2023, 07:56:40 PM
Hot damn! What a beauty...
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: Dave W on March 22, 2023, 08:23:55 PM
Outstanding!
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 05:38:52 AM
I'm shutting this thread if you all don't get a grip on yourselves!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: TBird1958 on March 23, 2023, 07:27:10 AM
I'm shutting this thread if you all don't get a grip on yourselves!  :mrgreen:
   

 Hey now! 

 I have a firm grip on myself, secondly the bass is finally the one most of us have wanted for decades! Gibson need to get this into production then you can assail them for a SPCB re-issue.  :P
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 07:28:53 AM
I will continue to closely monitor this thread and herewith reserve the implementation of any and all warranted public security measures at any time.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: TBird1958 on March 23, 2023, 07:43:44 AM


 Gibson, please just take my money! 

(https://i.imgur.com/4eaZmLM.jpg)
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: lowend1 on March 23, 2023, 09:24:34 AM
Great looking bass, and well thought out. The relocated strap pin is a good idea. Hamer started doing that in the 70s on their Standards (Explorers).

The Thunderbird Studio has its lower strap button located off center as well, although not as much so as this bass.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: doombass on March 23, 2023, 10:21:53 AM
   

 Hey now! 

 I have a firm grip on myself, secondly the bass is finally the one most of us have wanted for decades! Gibson need to get this into production then you can assail them for a SPCB re-issue.  :P

Let's not forget reclaiming the Continental V.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 12:12:16 PM
Ah, yes, ze Cöntinental V, that one would have been interesting!
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: Ken on March 23, 2023, 01:52:07 PM
I will continue to closely monitor this thread and herewith reserve the implementation of any and all warranted public security measures at any time.

What if it had black hardware?
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 02:08:46 PM
Then that wouldn't look good on this particular bass which valiantly attempts to stem from another time.

It's purdy, no two ways about it. That doesn't mean that everything on and to it is better than on a standard modern TBird. That it's active/passive is neat. I've never been a great fan of that 60ies TBird bridge, separate stringholders are a somewhat makeshift structural concept if you have a stable bridge that doesn't tip forward, but as you know there is no reasoning with nostalgiacs!  :mrgreen:

The tuners are a good idea too. Not sure why I should favor three-ply-maho over the tried and trusted nine-ply maho/walnut mix for the neck, but maybe the ole Scream Dreamer knows something we don't.

Sandberg hasn't been sleeping on the subject either ...

(https://www.session.de/thumbnail/54/52/f1/1674133696/sandberg-forty-eight-5-pf-brownburst-hca-01_960x960.jpg)

.https://www.session.de/products/sandberg-forty-eight-5-pf-brownburst-hca/?cpkey=3-AgUI2Zg1i_JBXilNMosvRDy8TxzZGMgbR3KQEQQ0EH3XQs4YqCiCM4Z716DvYF4j8jDwYZZhV_E4jJbe_aKg~~&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8e-gBhD0ARIsAJiDsaVjiCwnzNms6radVk6z686Y8mn-5UUanrMa0WlbsIihipyS3RLPQWcaAji1EALw_wcB

Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: Ken on March 23, 2023, 03:30:02 PM
I've never played a Sandberg, but love that you can get aged hardware. I don't want artificial aging, but I hate shiny hardware. I love it dulled down.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: Dave W on March 23, 2023, 04:15:06 PM
Sandberg makes some beautiful basses but their relic jobs are awful.

Their take on the TBird (above) just doesn't look right to my eyes.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: uwe on March 23, 2023, 05:42:08 PM
It's nigh impossible to get a 5-string Rev TBird to look right. The sleekness of the neck and fretboard is essential for the design.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: lowend1 on March 23, 2023, 05:48:08 PM
David Kiswiney shared these pics with me.

Rob, does this mean you'll be gearing up for another edition of the book?
I know that my OCD would take issue with this one floating around without being compiled and dutifully registered.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: gearHed289 on March 24, 2023, 07:50:58 AM
The Sandburgs are cool, but I hate fake relic jobs. They have them locally here at Chicago Music Exchange.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: uwe on March 24, 2023, 08:13:49 AM
I play with a guitarist who has a penchant for expensive boutique relics, yet is totally distraught if he bumps or scratches one of them! That is wrong in so many ways.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: Ken on March 24, 2023, 08:31:00 AM
I play with a guitarist who has a penchant for expensive boutique relics, yet is totally distraught if he bumps or scratches one of them! That is wrong in so many ways.  :mrgreen:

That is so incredibly perfect.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: TBird1958 on March 24, 2023, 08:49:44 PM


 When it comes to Thunderbirds Herr Dietrich got it right, Gibson has always done it best - That Sandberg is not for me!
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: godofthunder on March 25, 2023, 05:37:48 AM
   Gibson is indeed getting closer. I'm curious about the bridge being so high, have they reverted the acute neck angle? I think the Rex Brown boost is superfluous and hopefully be left off any production modelsthat may be coming. I'm not sure I like the non tapered body wings, but it adds body mass for those who whine about neck dive and it's also easier to manufacture. I'll be talking with my Gibson contact soon, hopefully I can get some more info.
Title: Re: Thunderbird II 2023
Post by: Basvarken on March 25, 2023, 07:49:31 AM
Rob, does this mean you'll be gearing up for another edition of the book?
I know that my OCD would take issue with this one floating around without being compiled and dutifully registered.

I think I ought to be. But I'm not (yet).