The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Guitars Etc. => Topic started by: Dave W on January 28, 2015, 11:19:20 PM
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I sat through 22 minutes of this and not a single word about basses, but it's an interesting look at the changes they have made, including the adjustable zero fret and nut assembly. I was surprised to find out that the LP Classic and Deluxe have an active boost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v-KR0cS1To
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Yeah, he´s thorough. I actually appreciate when interviewers let people talk, instead of making their own comments all
the time. I like the fact that they (apparently) spend some time developing/mixing pickups, and use old designs too - like the alnico rod P90. I just wish they would separate the electronics developers from the tuner developers :)
And for all that tasteful design features, why do they do that black overspray at the neck heel on some models?
It looks awful, at least to me. Am I missing something, is it there for a reason??
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Didn't watch that vid yet, but I saw another one about the new line of Les Paul studio monitors. I'm just gonn a sum up my thoughts on that one with an eyeroll.
Interested in this adjustable zero fret thing tho.
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He discusses the zero fret and nut assembly starting at about 4:45.
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And for all that tasteful design features, why do they do that black overspray at the neck heel on some models?
It looks awful, at least to me. Am I missing something, is it there for a reason??
+1.
Looks like an overspray luthiers sometimes use to cover up a mistake/repair.
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LOL! So much for that cryogenically treated brass zero fret/nut assembly. This guy shows that his strings are already wearing grooves in the zero fret in the two weeks he's had the guitar.
A zero fret should be nickel silver or harder, not brass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8z5juKrZmo
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It's a good thing they have that "full contact" bridge so you can FINALLY get some tone and sustain out of a Les Paul. :rolleyes:
Nice job on the zero fret too. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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It's a good thing they have that "full contact" bridge so you can FINALLY get some tone and sustain out of a Les Paul. :rolleyes:
My thoughts exactly :mrgreen:
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LOL! So much for that cryogenically treated brass zero fret/nut assembly. This guy shows that his strings are already wearing grooves in the zero fret in the two weeks he's had the guitar.
A zero fret should be nickel silver or harder, not brass.
My Victory Standard has a brass nut. No such issues (I use flats - maybe that helps... the previous owner didn't though). Brass nuts were a fad on basses in the late 70s/early 80s.
It's probably worse on geetars, with the thinner strings (like a sharp knife, vs thicker bass strings). Maybe why the fad never caught on with guitarists.
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My Victory Standard has a brass nut. No such issues (I use flats - maybe that helps... the previous owner didn't though). Brass nuts were a fad on basses in the late 70s/early 80s.
It's probably worse on geetars, with the thinner strings (like a sharp knife, vs thicker bass strings). Maybe why the fad never caught on with guitarists.
There's no problem with a brass nut. The problem here is the brass zero fret.
A zero fret almost always has a slotted string guide behind. The string guide can be any of the usual nut materials, but the zero fret is made out of the same material as the other frets, nickel silver or stainless steel, both a good deal harder than brass. Strings won't cut grooves in it easier than the other frets.
What Gibson has done is put both the zero fret and string guide in a single brass unit. The brass they're using isn't hard enough to act as a fret.
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Oh. I figured since it was a 2 in 1 unit then it was the same as just a brass nut.
Frankly I don't understand the difference - if just a nut (no zero fret) how is wear not an issue? Less movement due to being in slots?
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Oh. I figured since it was a 2 in 1 unit then it was the same as just a brass nut.
Frankly I don't understand the difference - if just a nut (no zero fret) how is wear not an issue? Less movement due to being in slots?
It's not just a nut. It's both a zero fret and a slotted string guide (not really a nut) in one unit.
This might make it clear.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/davepix/Basses/gibsonzerofretnut1_zpstcguwnhh.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/davepix/Basses/gibsonzerofretnut2_zps6hytnph6.jpg)
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I don't know why Gibson went to this style of nut? What was wrong with the old bone nut? Probably just so they don't have to cut the string slot depths accurately, thereby saving on labor cost. :sad:
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I don't know why Gibson went to this style of nut? What was wrong with the old bone nut? Probably just so they don't have to cut the string slot depths accurately, thereby saving on labor cost. :sad:
Because it's NEW! (Thanks marketing dummies...) Brass seems like a really bad choice for a fret, zero or otherwise.
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They have to do something to justify the 30% price increases.