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Title: The way they should have sounded ...
Post by: uwe on July 12, 2023, 10:16:23 AM
... before Todd Rundgren was unleashed on them (and vice versa!). The original 1972 New York Dolls demos (lovingly remastered) that got them a recording contract:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DFBM2uI-z0&list=OLAK5uy_mCXD2DzrFUAfJwgqWJin0Km3EOPNZOE7M&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5rH8B7IVf8&list=OLAK5uy_mCXD2DzrFUAfJwgqWJin0Km3EOPNZOE7M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpyZ8amAWD4&list=OLAK5uy_mCXD2DzrFUAfJwgqWJin0Km3EOPNZOE7M&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DFBM2uI-z0&list=OLAK5uy_mCXD2DzrFUAfJwgqWJin0Km3EOPNZOE7M&index=2

I love Todd Rundgren, but setting him up with the Dolls was bound to fail. They should have picked Eddie Kramer, Jack Douglas, Bob Ezrin or Glyn Johns to produce them, someone of that ilk.

Shows just how late 60ies/early 70ies stones'y they were, very 'Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!'.

Mark, why didn't the Nasty Habits ever cover the Dolls? Too obvious, too East Coast or too cult?
Title: Re: The way they should have sounded ...
Post by: TBird1958 on July 12, 2023, 10:42:53 AM


 We never did cover any Dolls stuff, a bit obscure for most of our crowds, especially after we really got going. Our demographic worked out to be females 25-55, they don't know that stuff and playing it won't get you paid, or asked back!
 But, that doesn't mean that I don't like it, I love Slade, but we'll never, ever play any!
Title: Re: The way they should have sounded ...
Post by: uwe on July 12, 2023, 11:01:00 AM
"Our demographic worked out to be females 25-55 ..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKi63FyPr1M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni0UH1OZXm8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9zVOhQCYTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dwvYqs9owY


It's alright, I love Rick, I can even forgive him he's a Republican.  8)

Not the Rick you know or expect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DtfvjCKmHI&list=OLAK5uy_m_RNN9eh0hHjiXg9upcbHDrf7R_J1H9ro&index=5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=448jSe_Xkp0&list=OLAK5uy_m_RNN9eh0hHjiXg9upcbHDrf7R_J1H9ro&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DtfvjCKmHI&list=OLAK5uy_m_RNN9eh0hHjiXg9upcbHDrf7R_J1H9ro&index=6


Title: Re: The way they should have sounded ...
Post by: Ken on July 12, 2023, 11:54:40 AM
Fun fact: Neil Giraldo played guitar and bass on the recordings of Jessie's Girl and I’ve Done Everything For You.
Title: Re: The way they should have sounded ...
Post by: uwe on July 12, 2023, 11:57:39 AM
Yeah, you can hear that Pat Benatar sound on those songs, his rhythm guitar is pretty much unmistakable. He's greatly underrated as a guitarist.
Title: Re: The way they should have sounded ...
Post by: Ken on July 12, 2023, 11:59:04 AM
After learning more about Neil, it was fun revisiting some old Pat Benatar albums. There are some really fun and creative guitar parts on there.
Title: Re: The way they should have sounded ...
Post by: uwe on July 12, 2023, 12:38:48 PM
People make fun of it, but nearly all of that late 70ies/early 80ies AOR/arena-pop-semi-hard-rock-schlock was very skillfully made, an American art form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KFu3JD1NOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlUrfpsnFqs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAS9mygJi8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXnHl-TtD6s
Title: Re: The way they should have sounded ...
Post by: TBird1958 on July 12, 2023, 01:51:06 PM
Yeah, you can hear that Pat Benatar sound on those songs, his rhythm guitar is pretty much unmistakable. He's greatly underrated as a guitarist.
 


 He's a great player, I saw Pat B very early on, Scott St. Sheets was still in the band as rhythm guitarist, very good show, they opened for Billy Squier.