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Title: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Chris P. on February 06, 2011, 10:57:53 AM
It first seemed another twitter-hoax, but now the Thin Lizzy website has a message about the passing of Gary Moore and BBC Ireland confirms his dead.

RIP.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Hornisse on February 06, 2011, 11:06:44 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12377862

Terrible news!   :sad:  He and Phil will be jamming again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsKpazeA5L8
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Chaser001 on February 06, 2011, 11:09:44 AM
Really sad news, not what I was wanting to hear at all on a Sunday morning. 
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Garrett on February 06, 2011, 11:27:53 AM
Yeah, I just heard it myself and did a search....

Mr Moore, 58, was, originally from Belfast, and was a former member of the legendary Irish group Thin Lizzy.

Adam Parsons, who manages Thin Lizzy, told the BBC that Mr Moore had died in the early hours of Sunday morning.

Mr Moore was originally drafted into Thin Lizzy by its singer Phil Lynott. He later gained acclaim for his solo work and was a former member of the Irish group Skid Row.

Source: BBC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx3yXUunEq8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx3yXUunEq8)
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Basshappi on February 06, 2011, 11:35:58 AM
This sucks!
R.I.P. Gary
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: ilan on February 06, 2011, 11:54:55 AM
So young.
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Post by: lowend1 on February 06, 2011, 12:27:22 PM
Crap.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Basvarken on February 06, 2011, 12:31:32 PM
RIP Gary.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJP4tdlImI
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: OldManC on February 06, 2011, 01:50:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzpMBscDNbM

I was living in England when Run For Cover was released. The two songs Moore and Lynott did on the album (Military Man and Out in the Fields) were both great in my book and I loved seeing the two of them together. It made it that much worse when Phil died after seeming to have been given a new lease on life. That being said, that album made me a fan for life of Gary and Phil. R.I.P.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Iome on February 06, 2011, 01:51:52 PM
What can i say, this makes me sad, i never liked his hard n heavy stuff, but loved (and still do) the blues albums after 1990.

R.I.P. Gary, you were one hell of a shredder. Cheers to you mate.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Grog on February 06, 2011, 01:58:14 PM
Major bummer............. I had read somewhere, not too long ago that he had to sell Peter Greens Les Paul to pay medical bills. He must have been dealing with some major health issues to make a choice like that. RIP Mr Moore...  :toast:
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Hornisse on February 06, 2011, 02:13:03 PM
I recall first hearing him on Lizzy's Black Rose LP.  I always liked the cover version he did of this one in the early 80's.  R.I.P.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGWdkqDH0XY&playnext=1&list=PLF28FB4E850B94C68
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Garrett on February 06, 2011, 02:38:24 PM
Major bummer............. I had read somewhere, not too long ago that he had to sell Peter Greens Les Paul to pay medical bills. He must have been dealing with some major health issues to make a choice like that. RIP Mr Moore...  :toast:

I did not know that...Do you think this is Greens Les Paul in this pic?

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p60/gallofino/babes/gary_moore01.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Hornisse on February 06, 2011, 02:43:31 PM
The Peter Green Les Paul had the famous reversed position neck pickup.  Here is a photo of the guitar.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/soc02p.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Aussie Mark on February 06, 2011, 03:32:57 PM
Far too young ....
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Highlander on February 06, 2011, 04:32:59 PM
Saw him quite a number of times... RIP

two UK sites confirming...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/feb/06/gary-moore-thin-lizzy-dies (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/feb/06/gary-moore-thin-lizzy-dies)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12377862 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12377862)
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: OldManC on February 06, 2011, 05:42:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWp-Mazmf88&feature=related

Here he is on Greeny's guitar. Damn...
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: lowend1 on February 06, 2011, 06:11:58 PM
I love this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUaevnP1LLg
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: uwe on February 06, 2011, 06:22:28 PM
It was in the German TV news. Never my favorite guitarist or singer, he is certainly a loss. I didn't know he had health issues. In a druggie band like Thin Lizzy, he certainly seemed like a health obsessive. What did he die of?

On his "Irish Album" Wild Frontier was a nice ballad reputedly written for Phil Lynott called "Johnny Boy". They should play that at his funeral.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: eb2 on February 06, 2011, 08:55:34 PM
I loved this solo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f29WSF63WMs
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Freuds_Cat on February 07, 2011, 02:06:24 AM
I was never a big fan but was impressed enough to buy a ticket to one of his shows at the Hammersmith Odean/Apollo. Enjoyable but forgettable performance sadly. Regardless of my own experience of him, he earned and deserves his place in Rock history. No doubt he will be missed.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2011, 05:51:18 AM
That's the song I thought of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIwcvffvrnY

Ironically, he wanted to move away from blues into celtic rock and even record with The Chieftains lately.

On most other stuff he did, the issue was that he was trying just too darn hard, squeezing every drop of emotion (he undoubtely had if you ever saw him play live) into every note. But his taste in guitars sure got better over time:

(http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/images/a/ae/GaryMoore.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Gary_Moore_2005.05.21_002-2.jpg/576px-Gary_Moore_2005.05.21_002-2.jpg)



Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2011, 08:12:02 AM
He died in his sleep. Causes at this point unknown. I'd be really surprised if drugs were behind it with this guy.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Basshappi on February 07, 2011, 09:38:53 AM
I loved his playing with Colosseum II and his early solo stuff before he turned more to the Blues.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: nofi on February 07, 2011, 09:41:55 AM
current photos show him bloated and very unhealthy looking. liked his playing but could not really connect with it.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Barklessdog on February 07, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
I loved his playing with Colosseum II and his early solo stuff before he turned more to the Blues.

His sound & vibrato was unmistakable. He will be missed. I always heard he had a troubled life. i remember reading about his Colosseum II days when Jon Hiesman threw him against a wall due to him being high all the time. Also I believe he spent time in prison for Tax evasion, thus the song LP Back On The Streets?

Still, a great guitarist, one of my favorites.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Highlander on February 07, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
Last times I saw him were years back - 80-82 ish - the marquee club with 3 different bands and G Force at Hammersmith iirc - bass being Andy Pyle and Neil Murray for the Marquee shows -  drummers being Tommy Aldridge, Ian Paice & Mark Nauseef - vocalists Charlie Huhn and John Sloman at the Marquee - Don Airey was certainly on keys at two of the shows... he was playing well at that time... one Marquee show was (big) rumoured to have Phil Lynott show up but he didn't...

Never saw him again...
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: lowend1 on February 07, 2011, 04:44:24 PM
He died in his sleep. Causes at this point unknown. I'd be really surprised if drugs were behind it with this guy.

Well, it wasn't drugs...
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/gary-moore-choked-on-his-own-vomit/
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: uwe on February 07, 2011, 04:54:07 PM
If that is true ... what a waste. Not that I get that drunk often or at all any more (in fact I generally stop before my driver's license could be endangered whether I have to drive or not), but even when I did I made the habit of puking before I went to bed.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Basvarken on February 08, 2011, 12:29:13 AM
He did not
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/gary-moore-did-not-choke-on-vomit/#more-40807
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: OldManC on February 08, 2011, 12:53:20 AM
I'm glad you posted that because I was really hoping that report was wrong. Plus he wasn't 28.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Basvarken on February 08, 2011, 01:16:22 AM
The "source" of that :puke: was the Sun...
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: uwe on February 08, 2011, 04:40:15 AM
Heart attack in your sleep when no one is around to help you is kind of sneaky too. It's another rock star death really, Robert Palmer, the Toto drummer, JAE ... the list is endless. Always makes me wonder whether that is the price paid for cocaine abuse decades before, but of course non-cocaine users die of heart attacks too.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: gweimer on February 08, 2011, 04:56:52 AM
Sleep apnea can also kill you in the night.  And I'm sure there's not much information on whether any of those people had this condition.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: lowend1 on February 08, 2011, 08:31:57 AM
Sleep apnea can also kill you in the night.  And I'm sure there's not much information on whether any of those people had this condition.

I'm not a doctor, but I have "played doctor".
Heart attacks are usually pretty obvious in an autopsy. I find it odd, though that if Moore did die purely of a heart attack, they didn't just come out and say that. The fact that they are waiting for toxicology results gives one pause. "Natural Causes" really only means that there was no foul play - no murder or suicide. There is certainly an underlying cause or condition at 58 years old.
The partying ultimately catches up to most people (unless you're Keith Richards or Lemmy). The three that Uwe mentioned were certainly heart attacks - Entwistle and Porcaro's deaths were apparently triggered by cocaine use - not sure about Palmer.  
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Basvarken on February 08, 2011, 09:15:19 AM
At the time the word was he had some sort of allergic reaction to a pesticide he was working with in the garden.

Someone had been watching Spinal Tap maybe?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBCSMjHJAvg
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: lowend1 on February 08, 2011, 12:13:31 PM
Perhaps the Irish should not visit Spain...
http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/people/boyzone-stars-completely-devastated-by-death-of-stephen-gately-20091012-gsl9.html
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: uwe on February 09, 2011, 05:48:31 AM
Robert Palmer was a cocaine head in the late seventies and eighties. Like lots of people (e.g. Bowie in his pre-Berlin phase, Parfitt and Rossi from Status Quo, Parfitt now has multiple bypasses for it). Because it was perceived as a "clean" drug, people thought they would get away with everything and that the most serious repercussion was psychological addiction. Not so. While contaminated heroin has a better chance of killing you than contaminated cocaine, it is almost unheard of that a former heroin junkie dies, say, 15 years after his last heroin hit without having taken the drug again. Your body seems to recover from it once you are and stay clean. In contrast, with cocaine, your heart muscle seems to have a very long memory. It always makes me wonder how ex-cocaine abusers must feel when they read of another heart attack death of someone known to have (ab)used the stuff.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: lowend1 on February 09, 2011, 06:59:10 AM
There is enough things that can kill you, so there is no reason to tempt fate. I'm glad I can say that I have never touched cocaine... or been drunk, or smoked anything other than to try it. Seriously. I can also say that I had vocal cord cancer - something that is typically associated with heavy use of the above. Unfortunately, there are no guarantees in life.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Freuds_Cat on February 17, 2011, 01:35:25 PM
Heart attack in your sleep when no one is around to help you is kind of sneaky too. It's another rock star death really, Robert Palmer, the Toto drummer, JAE ... the list is endless. Always makes me wonder whether that is the price paid for cocaine abuse decades before, but of course non-cocaine users die of heart attacks too.

Add Billy Thorpe to that list. Another former self admitted Cocaine abuser who died too young of a heart attack even though very fit and healthy at the time.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: Dave W on February 17, 2011, 02:03:21 PM
We may not know what all these people died from, but we know they didn't die of old age.

I remember an interview with Carol Kaye in one of the alternative bass magazines, probably in the late 90s. She talked about how the L.A. studios were very professional in the 60s, then drugs started creeping by the early 70s, then a noticeable number of those users wound up dying of heart attacks before age 60.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: the mojo hobo on February 19, 2011, 07:54:02 AM

 I can also say that I had vocal cord cancer


So how did that turn out? I too had cancer on my left vocal cord. Seven weeks of radiation therapy got rid of it and most of my voice too. Now, three years later I'm cancer free but my left vocal cord is paralyzed. I can talk OK but can't yell and can't sing (although there are those that will say I couldn't sing before). I did smoke, I still drink, but they say all respiratory cancers in Vietnam veterans are caused by exposure to Agent Orange, so I'm going with that.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: lowend1 on February 20, 2011, 07:15:52 AM
So how did that turn out? I too had cancer on my left vocal cord. Seven weeks of radiation therapy got rid of it and most of my voice too. Now, three years later I'm cancer free but my left vocal cord is paralyzed. I can talk OK but can't yell and can't sing (although there are those that will say I couldn't sing before). I did smoke, I still drink, but they say all respiratory cancers in Vietnam veterans are caused by exposure to Agent Orange, so I'm going with that.

Another member of the club! An increasing number of vocal cord cancers are caused by reflux, as well as the HPV virus - which is why they have also tied it to oral sex (I asked the doc - "from giving or receiving?"). It is showing up more and more in younger people (I was 44 at the time).
6+ years out, I'm cancer-free. Last month I had scar tissue removed from the area above the cords - a "late effect" of the radiation treatments - that had blocked 50% of my airway. It is considered "reconstructive" surgery because if they just cut the scar tissue out, the probability is that it will recur. So... now I can breathe again, which is always nice. There are several other issues related to the treatments that I will probably always have to wrestle with, but you know how that is already. I don't have a paralyzed cord, but my voice is pretty much in the same state as yours.
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2011, 05:22:26 AM
Isn't that what Rod Stewart had too? Glad you guys are over it.

"So... now I can breathe again, which is always nice."

Ouch.  :-\
Title: Re: RIP Gary Moore?
Post by: lowend1 on February 21, 2011, 06:59:32 AM
Isn't that what Rod Stewart had too? Glad you guys are over it.

"So... now I can breathe again, which is always nice."

Ouch.  :-\

Rod Stewart had thyroid cancer. Same general area. Levon Helm had vocal cord cancer. Stewart only had surgery, while Helm underwent daily radiation treatments, like Mojo and I did, in addition to the operation. Both regained their singing voices to some degree - Helm's took seven years to rebuild. If you have to get it there, it's best to have it on the vocal cords themselves because there is no lymphatic system in the immediate area - which sorta minimizes the risk of spread to other parts of the body. Unfortunately, you don't get to choose in these matters.