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Title: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on August 17, 2010, 07:32:08 PM
What's wrong with this picture?
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02005.jpg)

One is NOT a Bass

3 Hrs later:
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02023.jpg)
PROBLEM SOLVED!

to be continued...
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: sniper on August 17, 2010, 07:46:50 PM
okay, you have my undivided attention errrrrrr until Bill makes another post about his EB
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: drbassman on August 17, 2010, 07:53:57 PM
Very cool.  It reminds me of a Landing bass, they are based on Strat bodies.  I like how your's turned out.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: Freuds_Cat on August 17, 2010, 08:40:27 PM
Yep made me think of Jims shorty basses as well.

(http://www.landingbass.com/Resources/L300%20MAIN%20FULL%202010%20model%20-%20green%20cream%20gld%20-%20JPG%20WEB.JPG)
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on August 18, 2010, 03:52:13 AM
The recent stuff in the "Reissue" post did spark this.  That plus wanting to do something quick after the Fenderbird build.  I think I had a Hagstrom bass in the '60s that was vaguely strat like.  Horrible neck.  I remember an anodized swimming pool in the middle of the PG or maybe I'm hallucinating again.  This neck is a LH 32" SX as is the bridge, body is plywood Squire Affinity.  The neck pocket had to be enlarged slightly to fit the 2 1/4" heel .  Could have done it with a chisel but I made a template and routed it.  That was the most time consuming part of the build.

The neck needs shimming, the pups are too far away from the strings and the action's way high but the original neck had a BIG shim so no biggie.  PG needs to be reshaped and a few holes filled, may reshape the headstock.  Refin in Daphne Blue and done.

It sounds surprisingly good even in it's poor state of set up.  has a wide variety of tones from the different pups.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02006-1.jpg)
I got your swimming pool right here.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02009.jpg)
Minor pocket enlargement with trimmer router.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02011-1.jpg)
Nice, huh?  You should see the pink gigbag it came in!

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02013.jpg)
5 minutes of belt sander therapy.  5 layers of nasty polyester removed.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02015-1.jpg)
Nuttin' but us basses here...
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: godofthunder on August 18, 2010, 04:25:05 AM
Best use of a guitar ever !
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: drbassman on August 18, 2010, 05:41:45 AM
A definite improvement!
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: Freuds_Cat on August 18, 2010, 07:11:47 AM
Classic! its a beautiful thing. Now when are you giving it back to your guit4ri5t?  ;D
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: Pilgrim on August 18, 2010, 07:20:46 AM
Are you kiddin' me??  That's BRILLIANT!!

I love that idea!!

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Brilliant.jpg)

You did what...?  I see the following:

- Neck swap with required routing
- Bridge swap (bass bridge moved closer to bottom of body)
- Is there an added bass pickup just above the bridge..or a block added to fill the space left by the bridge move?
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on August 18, 2010, 07:34:53 AM
I own 6 of them in various states of decline and disassembly.  At one time I was making 'Blackie' strats but lost interest, too many parts.  I did send one of these 32" necks to an old guitar buddy to put on a Mexican Jazz, he's sending me that neck in exchange.  If I had thought of the StratoBaster before that I would have sent him a complete one in exchange for the entire bass.  Would have been less puzzling to the poor guy.  Plus he'd know which knob does what. ;D

To Pilgrim, relocated bridge yes.  Those are just the screw holes from the original bridge, does look like there's a pup there though.

BASS pup not necessary.  Try it, you'll like it (since we're doing advertising slogans).  It sounds great and is less filling (of your gig bag).

No wires were injured during this build.  I love that everything is on the PG.  Pups don't align with the strings due to poor bridge placement or bad neck alignment?  Just move the entire PG/electronics slightly.  Problem solved.  Now THAT'S brilliant.  Thanks, Leo!
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: uwe on August 18, 2010, 08:12:36 AM
From guitar to bass  :o - evolution never stops!
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: sniper on August 18, 2010, 11:40:38 AM
i admire a creative person. some of us only use the trait for our art. i am glad to see you use it in different ways as i have observed a lot of members here do.

nice work for a creative burst.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: drbassman on August 18, 2010, 11:55:43 AM
I often wonder how Landing is doing in terms of sales.  They have some nice basses, pretty much short scale.

http://www.landingbass.com/the%20l1.html
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on August 18, 2010, 12:10:56 PM
From guitar to bass  :o - evolution never stops!

Well, Tbird 1958 nailed it when he said he always thought of a Pbass as a 'Stratocaster Bass'.  Except the double cut Pbass came first.  This bass is just returning the favor.

i admire a creative person. some of us only use the trait for our art. i am glad to see you use it in different ways as i have observed a lot of members here do.

nice work for a creative burst.

Yeah, today is the morning after.  Mundane stuff, cutting the nut slots deeper and trimming it down, shimming the neck and setting intonation and pup height.

So far I'm really amazed at the sound.  The 5 way pup selector switch is almost like a varitone with all usable sounds, the two tone pots are for the neck and middle pups.  The bridge pup has no tone control and gets a heck of a growl when pushed, very JAE.   I can get an Andy Fraser EB-3 'All Right Now' sound out of the neck pup.  Middle pup is almost trad Pbass.  Not bad for a $99 body and electronics package.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: exiledarchangel on August 18, 2010, 12:24:17 PM
I REALLY like your way of thinking! How is string to string balance?
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on August 18, 2010, 12:37:55 PM
I REALLY like your way of thinking! How is string to string balance?

Very good.  You have to favor the E side on height slightly.  These are the staggered pole height pups.  I'll try a flat top set for the next one.  The E and G are down the center of the outboard pole pieces.  The A and D are between the two inboard "pairs".  So sort of a P/Jazz combo.  Of course there's always aftermarket blades as a possibility but I really don't see the necessity.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on August 18, 2010, 01:21:02 PM
Verrrry Cooool!  8)
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: Dave W on August 18, 2010, 02:27:28 PM
Well, Tbird 1958 nailed it when he said he always thought of a Pbass as a 'Stratocaster Bass'.  Except the double cut Pbass came first.  This bass is just returning the favor.

Not to be nitpicky but the P not only came first, it was actually based on a Telecaster body with the horn extended for balance. OTOH the success of the contoured Strat no doubt influenced Leo's decision to do the same on the P.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on August 18, 2010, 03:01:25 PM
I was referring to the fact that the P was the first Double Cut design not the first Fender design.  Fender under Leo was always about evolution and innovation so I'll concede your point.  My '55 P, build date '4/5/55 Mary', had a contour body.  That's it in my avatar.  I have to think the decision was a pretty quick, "when we get done with the strat we'll tool up for the Precision and have another product to introduce."  But yes, we pick at nits.  Are we nitwits? ;D
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: Dave W on August 18, 2010, 09:49:28 PM
I was referring to the fact that the P was the first Double Cut design not the first Fender design. ..

Right, I understood that. I just meant that the basic body shape was Tele-inspired.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: Pekka on August 19, 2010, 01:52:40 AM
Neil Murray had a custom Strat bass made in the late 70's. He had a fretless Precision neck which he had fretted and bolted into a strat style body. A 32" scale bass, looked liked a big Stratocaster. He has pics of it on his facebook page.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on September 03, 2010, 09:47:58 AM
So the weather got sane and I painted it.  Daphne blue which is white lacquer mixed with a smidge of cobalt blue and almost no yellow.  here it is a few days later waiting to be compounded and polished.  front took around half an hour by hand.  I like Scratch X as a general bass polish, removes minor scratches and waxes at the same time.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02159.jpg)

Did a quick patch on the cutout at the back of the guard and upgraded the bridge with a BezDez.  Double taped aluminum flashing on the pups to hide the pole pieces.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02162.jpg)

Going Steady!
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/STRATOBASTER/DSC02169-1.jpg)

Put some $7 nickel roundwounds on, sounds good and is fun to play.  
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: ack1961 on September 03, 2010, 09:57:43 AM
that is seriously gorgeous
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: exiledarchangel on September 03, 2010, 11:02:39 AM
There's not enough drool emoticons for this build. The pickup trick is simply unbelievable.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: sniper on September 03, 2010, 12:16:43 PM
about those pup/covers?????? care to elaborate please?

high wow factor there Carlo
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on September 03, 2010, 12:33:25 PM
about those pup/covers?????? care to elaborate please?

high wow factor there Carlo

It's 9mm strips of aluminum roof flashing rounded on the ends stuck to the pup poles with double stick tape...just another cheap trick.  I tried to use aluminum tape on the complete pup but that didn't look very good.  Thanks, Bill.  It was a fun project.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: Freuds_Cat on September 03, 2010, 09:06:38 PM
Now that looks cool.    8)   whats the neck dive like carlo?
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on September 04, 2010, 02:50:07 AM
Now that looks cool.    8)   whats the neck dive like carlo?

Thanks.  No neck dive even with a seat belt type strap.  The body is 1.5 inch (38mm) plywood, total weight 7.3 lbs (3.3 kilo).
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: drbassman on September 04, 2010, 05:36:27 AM
Wow, that turned out really nice!  And I don't even like Fenders!!!!
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on September 04, 2010, 07:41:31 AM
Wow, that turned out really nice!  And I don't even like Fenders!!!!

Thanks, high praise indeed!  I don't have much appreciation for Fenders post Leo.  Ditto StingRays.  Ditto G&L.
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: drbassman on September 04, 2010, 08:11:44 AM
Thanks, high praise indeed!  I don't have much appreciation for Fenders post Leo.  Ditto StingRays.  Ditto G&L.

Ditto your dittos.  Although I do have a warm place in my heart for Teles, so the ASAT bass is OK in my book.  My very first bass build was a copy of that!  Sold it on eBay!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/Builds%20and%20Refurbs/telemasterfinished.jpg)
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: Lightyear on September 04, 2010, 09:19:10 AM
Ditto your dittos.  Although I do have a warm place in my heart for Teles, so the ASAT bass is OK in my book.  My very first bass build was a copy of that!  Sold it on eBay!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/drbassman/Builds%20and%20Refurbs/telemasterfinished.jpg)

Cool little bass Doc!  I forgot about that one.  What did you use for pickups again?  Are they RIC?
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: drbassman on September 04, 2010, 09:49:43 AM
Cool little bass Doc!  I forgot about that one.  What did you use for pickups again?  Are they RIC?

Yep, they were RIC pups, back when you could buy them new!!!!!!  Wish I had a few more sets!

Sorry for the hijack dada!
Title: Re: STRATOBASTER BASS
Post by: dadagoboi on September 04, 2010, 09:53:47 AM
Yep, they were RIC pups, back when you could buy them new!!!!!!  Wish I had a few more sets!

Sorry for the hijack dada!
No problem, I was wondering about the pups...bridge?