The Last Bass Outpost

Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Droombolus on May 19, 2016, 02:14:00 AM

Title: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Droombolus on May 19, 2016, 02:14:00 AM
Gibson seems to be dumping the 2015 model on the European market. Thomann and Music Store ( both German - jawohl Herr Direktor ! - superstores ) offer it for under EUR 900 which came in pretty handy for me because I just sold my troubled 2005 model ( remember my last years cracked neck post ? )

It was delivered yesterday and one of the first things that got my eye is the somewhat smaller headstock. Gibson's next bid in reducing neck-dive ?  :o 

The Babicz ( pronouced: ba-bitch ?   :rimshot: ) bridge and I got it off instantly, though I have to reserve judgement to its changing the sound of the original product. As much as I hate tuning up the 3-point, its sound really works for me on the SG and I never even considered getting a Hipshot replacement. Having said that I have to admit the Babicz's got me curious and was one of the reasons that made me decide to get this bass .....  :-[
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: nofi on May 19, 2016, 05:20:09 AM
hmm, smaller headstock, zika virus? :-[
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Granny Gremlin on May 19, 2016, 05:37:00 AM
Yeah, I saw a Babicz on an SG bass at a local store recently (first time getting a close IRL look at one) and was a little put off by the overwhelming size of the thing.... also, my usual gripe about why a post-mounted bridge would be made to  fit so snug to the body to the point of damaging the wood/making an indentation.  Made my Schaller 460L (2 point replacement; except the wider version, look tiny).
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: 66Atlas on May 19, 2016, 09:03:38 AM
Is the headstock smaller? I never even noticed.  I have one in our rehearsal space that I only keep as a back-up so I haven't spent a lot of time with it.  Of all the "Upgrade" bridges available for the 3 point I find the Babicz to be the least offensive looking, but when it's said and done I'm perfectly happy with my 3 points.  ;D
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Granny Gremlin on May 19, 2016, 09:52:58 AM
The Badbird is easily the least offensive looking.
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: uwe on May 19, 2016, 02:08:16 PM
hmm, smaller headstock, zika virus? :-[

Nofi, how dare you!!!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/8ede29fc63bede1f1004bfbe100e1675/tumblr_n6icg6b46d1rp0vkjo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Dave W on May 19, 2016, 02:43:10 PM
AFAIK the headstock size in 2015 is not smaller. My 2014 was replaced by Gibson with a 2015 so I had no chance to compare them side by side.
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Droombolus on May 20, 2016, 04:00:04 AM
Of all the "Upgrade" bridges available for the 3 point I find the Babicz to be the least offensive looking

I agree. It's not as overpowering a presence as the Hipshot.


AFAIK the headstock size in 2015 is not smaller. My 2014 was replaced by Gibson with a 2015 so I had no chance to compare them side by side.

Well Dave,

You ol' grumpster ;), I was comparing to the ol' 2005 model ( and both of my 2007 Supreme's ). Never had the pleasure to meet a 2014 model face to face ......  ;D
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: uwe on May 20, 2016, 04:45:15 AM
It looks good on a new TBird, on the SG shape anything but a one bar two point bridge - that pinnacle of American hardware engineering that tips forward like Lindsay Lohan after a night out -  - is out of place***.


*** anything in italics shall be deemed of ironic nature

Seriously, the Babicz looks a bit too modernistic and large on the SG model, but a Supertone would be even worse.

Sound- and adjustmentwise they are all fine bridges though.
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Dave W on May 20, 2016, 08:39:20 PM

Well Dave,

You ol' grumpster ;), I was comparing to the ol' 2005 model ( and both of my 2007 Supreme's ). Never had the pleasure to meet a 2014 model face to face ......  ;D

Looking at pics of a 2005, it is a little larger, you can tell by how close the Grovers are to the edge.
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: planetgaffnet on May 21, 2016, 03:10:00 AM
Thomann are offering the SG at £650 and Thunderbirds (with the EB pickups) for £875, which for Europe/UK pricing, is great pricing.  The same Thunderbird was around double that over here last year. 

I played one of the 'birds in New York last year, but to be honest, while I couldn't actually hear whether the coil switches actually did anything at all, it's sounded OK though wherever the switches were set. 

If only Gibson would take their thumb out their ass and offer some different colours (red, blue, green), I'd have been over the Thunderbird like a tramp on chips.
P
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Dave W on May 21, 2016, 10:29:47 AM
Gibson's distributor(s) on your side of the pond must have bought too many. There are very few new ones left of either model over here and prices haven't dropped much.
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Droombolus on May 22, 2016, 12:38:34 AM
I doubt that. Thomann has got the SG Bass on back-order for month or two. According to their sales dept they're expecting a big shipment, which was postponed for another month at the beginning of May. I wager that wouldn't be happening if the shipment had reached this side of the pond already. 
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Dave W on May 22, 2016, 11:46:29 AM
I doubt that. Thomann has got the SG Bass on back-order for month or two. According to their sales dept they're expecting a big shipment, which was postponed for another month at the beginning of May. I wager that wouldn't be happening if the shipment had reached this side of the pond already.

That's odd, because they aren't even available for order here. None of Gibson's national online dealers have any SG Basses left, and only two of them have a single TBird each: one at full original street price of $2599, the other reduced to $2209. When they're gone, that's it. Only thing new out there is the ES-Les Paul Bass from Gibson Memphis, and one group of independent dealers who share a warehouse have some 2014 EB 4 and 5 strings left.

Thomann is so big that Gibson must be doing a special run of them.
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: planetgaffnet on May 22, 2016, 12:09:48 PM
Thomann is so big that Gibson must be doing a special run of them.

If that's the case it's a pity they're not putting some different coloured paint in the spray guns.
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: Dave W on May 22, 2016, 05:54:47 PM
If that's the case it's a pity they're not putting some different coloured paint in the spray guns.

That would be un-Gibson-like.
Title: Re: SG Standard Bass 2015
Post by: uwe on May 23, 2016, 10:03:54 AM
There have been special run Les paul guitars for Thoman in the past. But I guess a cherry fin SG Bass is a safe bet, it's what people with even fleeting knowledge of Gibson basses identify the SG/EB-0/EB-3 basses with.