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Title: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Blackbird on April 29, 2013, 08:07:39 AM
From a Metal-sludge link..

Sixx stated about his switch from Gibson to Schecter: "I was very loyal to Gibson for a lot of years, [but] towards the last few years it sort of became … the quality of the instrument became not very consistent and it became frustrating for me … some would sound great and some wouldn't.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Denis on April 29, 2013, 08:10:00 AM
I could apply his reasoning to his music.  ;D
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: nofi on April 29, 2013, 09:11:27 AM
nikki sixx=who cares.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: ilan on April 29, 2013, 09:34:13 AM
Quality of tone, yes, that's the first thing that comes to mind when the name Nikki Sixx is brought up. That, and the optigrab. If there was a Mensa for bassists... but on the other hand, maybe not.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: planetgaffnet on April 29, 2013, 10:18:19 AM
While I can understand the quality control aspect, surely a person who has his own signature issue instrument would be sent dozens of them for pre-tour approval.  That said, look at some of the Thunderbird basses this guy has played on tour recently...most of them look like they've been dragged behind a truck, sprayed glittery and then dragged behind a truck again.  Sixx doesn't strike me as the type of guy who worries too much about QC.  There's quite probably one reason he moved to Schecter.  Dollar$.  Sheesh, I'd play a Schecter if they paid me.
P
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: stiles72 on April 29, 2013, 12:31:51 PM
I have a Blackbird that is starting to look like it's been dragged behind a truck - but it's the best T-bird I've played for the feel of the neck, and for overall output and tone. My '07 Thunderbird IV is a very nice instrument - but it pales in comparison to the sound of the Blackbird. If Sixx is talking about quality, I doubt he's nit picking over finish flaws like overspray and waves in the Nitro (which his birds didn't have) and all the usual cosmetic compalints. My guess it's about the physical build and electronics.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on April 29, 2013, 12:50:27 PM

 I love Gibson basses, I just have a lot of difficulty defending the spotty QC.
I don't blame anyone for being put off by this, it's disappointing from a U.S. company - I blame the guy at the top, I wish it would change.
 The sad thing is Gibson *can* make great instruments and should want to, especially now as many U.S. consumers want to actively support domestic manufacturing.
 I have no criticism of Nikki, he's gotten paid to play the bass as part of a very sucessful rock band -  I don't care for a lot of his choices in life, including Schecter, but that's his business, not mine  ;)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on April 30, 2013, 08:27:54 AM
No Nikki - no reintroduction of the TBird in 1987, simple as that. We should be grateful. And I do believe that the guy - whether you like Mötley or not, but Sixx AM sure shows his songwriting potential more - knows the dif between a well-sounding and a not so well-sounding bass within a few seconds after having laid his tatooed hands on it. After this many years in the business, you just know something like that.

When I saw him last with MC, his bass sound was excellent, mean and mighty. Not at all like the mix of a tech who works for a bass player that doesn't care about his sound, quite the contrary.

For the record: I think Vince Neil is a dumbass and MC overrated. But Herr Sixx is underrated and deserves better as regards recognition.

As regards Gibson's lack of consistency - was it ever different even in the past? I believe there to be a lot of love-blind nostalgia, plus we are much more educated and critical about our instruments today than, say, thirty or forty years ago. As the former guitarits of Deep Purple once said: "They built good and bad guitars back then just as they do today."  And while a bad fret-job, orange peel, a truss rod cavity that doesn't allow real access (just saw that on a new Midnight bass  :rolleyes: ) are all inexcusable (for the price), I haven't had a new Gibson bass in ten years that sounded "bad" in the sense that this specimen sounded no good while another specimen would have sounded much better. Basses are made of wood, no two will sound the same, but lack of pure sound is not Gibson's issue (unless you don't like the sound of maho set neck basses). Everything else pretty much is.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: planetgaffnet on May 01, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
If we can turn to the subject of MC (briefly), I met them once.  We had backstage passes for the Monster Of Rock festival in Donington, UK in 1984.  (Motley, Y&T, Van Halen, AC/DC.)  In hindsight, it was a surreal/fun day out if not a little Wayne's World.  Backstage, Tommy Lee bit me on the shoulder, Vince gave me a thumbs up after the bite and asked whether I was OK and I took a piss next to Mick Mars, during which we briefly discussed RTBs remix of Too Fast For Love (it was a short conversation).

I find the stuff they do/did with Vince Neil unlistenable.  The John Corabi fronted MC were amazingly good.

I concur with Uwe...I've seen (been dragged to) MC gigs several times.  Nikki's bass tone has always been good.
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Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on May 01, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
Corabi was great, but people wouldn't listen at the time. Not the grunge kids and not the old MC crowd. It fell between all cracks - or canyons. Doesn't change the fact that they really put their heart in that album.
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Post by: Nocturnal on May 01, 2013, 08:40:29 PM
I liked that album a lot as well. A different Crue sound, but much better imo.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: gweimer on May 01, 2013, 09:06:48 PM
I've never been a big fan of Motley Crue, and never thought much of Vince Neil's voice.  My big claim to fame, which I can't support, is that I got Vince Neil to talk about the car accident in 1985 when I interviewed him.  He was very open and candid, and talked about what it was like to live with killing your best friend.  My tape on that phone call was blank, and I told my editor that there was no way I'd ever get another chance for that interview, so we scrapped the story.  He opened up when I told him that I was given the story because I had been in a car accident where I lost my girlfriend.

On the lighter side, I like the Corabi version of the band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2zgjIGaIo4
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on May 03, 2013, 12:19:29 AM
Corabi was great, but people wouldn't listen at the time. Not the grunge kids and not the old MC crowd. It fell between all cracks - or canyons. Doesn't change the fact that they really put their heart in that album.

MTV didn't like Corabi and ended any chance of the band ever being anything other than what legions of slutty white trash chicks perform to. Vince Neil must have one HELL of an agent.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: gweimer on May 03, 2013, 01:04:30 PM
MTV didn't like Corabi and ended any chance of the band ever being anything other than what legions of slutty white trash chicks perform to. Vince Neil must have one HELL of an agent.

Was it Dee Anthony?  If you remember, they were all leather, studs and make-up before the accident.  When that happened, they got all silks and polka-dots and cleaned up their image enough to pass muster.  They had OUTSTANDING management in those years.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: copacetic on May 03, 2013, 02:02:17 PM
why Sixx switched to Schecter: As we know Gibson has been consistently inconsistent esp. when it come to the minor/major details of their actual assembly of the instruments and wiring. Not as much in the actual pickups. I'm sure any instrument Gibson delivered to Mr. Sixx had been given the nomless than once or twice over. I'm thinking he had a preference for what Schecter was doing and (maybe they made him an offer he could not refuse) and preferred their bass(es).
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Blackbird on May 04, 2013, 05:16:23 AM
The look of the Schecter vintage sunburst has grown on me quite a bit.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Nocturnal on May 07, 2013, 06:49:19 PM
The Sixx sig doesn't look any better in sunburst:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Schecter-Nikki-Sixx-Signature-Bass-Guitar-in-Vintage-Sunburst-/121107229320?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c328daa88

I still think the Ultra Bass looks better than this.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Dave W on May 07, 2013, 07:08:41 PM
Yuck. Looks like a T-bird that was left on a radiator and melted at the edges.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: nofi on May 08, 2013, 07:11:58 AM
that is pretty sad looking. the dali bass.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Basvarken on May 08, 2013, 07:22:52 AM
A Dali bass would look sexier  ;)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on May 08, 2013, 09:14:36 AM


 Shot at and missed, S%&# at and hit  ;D


It's the Pontiac Aztec of basses.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: the mojo hobo on May 08, 2013, 09:23:38 AM

It's the Pontiac Aztec of basses.

Ouch!
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Basvarken on May 08, 2013, 09:57:58 AM
Or Fiat Multipla maybe?  :mrgreen:

(http://www.7zitter.nl/scaler/cache/7/78/78f/78f1/phpThumb_cache_7zitter.nl_src78f154c6da5728c07b42a064df6a7190_par18b986f3ba968b120b54a2b4df457cf6_dat1361870465.jpeg)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on May 08, 2013, 10:20:54 AM
Ouch!


Opp.......Hope I'm not treading on your car!
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Chris P. on May 08, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
Okay, I'm known for my bad taste in basses, but I kinda like it. I played a similar model some years ago on a trade show and it's a nice bass. Of course I like real Birds better, but this seems to be a less 'dangerous' version of a Bird. A bit Jag meets Bird. I've seen worse Bird-a-likes.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Dave W on May 08, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Okay, I'm known for my bad taste in basses, but I kinda like it. ...

You like Wankwicks. Some of those also look like partially melted blobs. So it's no wonder you like this one.  ;)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Chris P. on May 08, 2013, 11:17:02 AM
yes, that's why I already made the remark;)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: copacetic on May 08, 2013, 11:52:51 AM
Well you have to remember when the 1st series of Thunderbird guitars and basses came out it took time to digest for some. It is of course an iconic design and any variations can seem blasphemous. Look at the general state of car design these days (yes I know they are safer etc.) compared to 60's. I also recall seeing The Who and being astounded seeing the Fender Precision neck the Thunderbird.  For kids these days Schecter (Warwick)is coming up with designs that I would not be seen dead with. All matters weighed out, Mr. Sixx seems to not let anything get in the way in his 'path'.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Iome on May 08, 2013, 12:43:06 PM
C'mon guys, you know he did it because every serious player needs a P pickup in his bass. It get's even better with the extra J at the bridge.










 ;D  At least i didn't say Fender.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: the mojo hobo on May 08, 2013, 12:58:07 PM

Opp.......Hope I'm not treading on your car!

No, I, like you, drive a Legacy wagon (05 GT). I just didn't think the bass looked that bad.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on May 08, 2013, 04:12:02 PM
C'mon guys, you know he did it because every serious player needs a P pickup in his bass. It get's even better with the extra J at the bridge.










 ;D  At least i didn't say Fender.

Can we have Iome drowned in some dark deep well, Dave, please? Freedom of speech and thought is an overrated concept. There have to be limits you know.  :mrgreen:

I don't think the Spector looks horrible, especially not compared to how other Spectors look, but the altered shape has none of that Art Deco'ish elegance a reverse TBird or Firebird has. It's a bit clumsy.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Dave W on May 08, 2013, 05:11:41 PM
Schecter, not Spector. Although Spector has the Forte 4X which is also an ugly bastard stepchild of the T-Bird.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on May 08, 2013, 05:20:40 PM
Can we have Iome drowned in some dark deep well, Dave, please? Freedom of speech and thought is an overrated concept. There have to be limits you know.  :mrgreen:

I don't think the Spector looks horrible, especially not compared to how other Spectors look, but the altered shape has none of that Art Deco'ish elegance a reverse TBird or Firebird has. It's a bit clumsy.


 Off to The Ministy of Truth! Both of you!
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on May 08, 2013, 05:22:37 PM
Schecter, not Spector. Although Spector has the Forte 4X which is also an ugly bastard stepchild of the T-Bird.

So there are now two ugly boutique knock-offs of the TBird plaguing the market, you say?  :-\
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Dave W on May 08, 2013, 06:15:42 PM
Yes. You would think at least one of them could make something that doesn't look like it took thalidomide.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: westen44 on May 08, 2013, 11:15:38 PM
After the hellish day I've just had, this thread totally delivers.  The sense of humor and knowledge of basses is appreciated.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: neepheid on May 08, 2013, 11:47:23 PM
Yuck. Looks like a T-bird that was left on a radiator and melted at the edges.

Isn't that an RD? ;)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: nofi on May 09, 2013, 03:52:48 AM
anyone remember this thing?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=nikki+sixx+ovation+acoustic+bass&qpvt=nikki+sixx+ovation+acoustic+bass&FORM=IGRE

if i remember correctly these retailed at about two grand when they came out. :P
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Pilgrim on May 09, 2013, 07:31:21 AM
anyone remember this thing?

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=nikki+sixx+ovation+acoustic+bass&qpvt=nikki+sixx+ovation+acoustic+bass&FORM=IGRE

if i remember correctly these retailed at about two grand when they came out. :P

I would rock that.  It actually looks like an instrument, not a melted ice cream bar!
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: OldManC on May 09, 2013, 09:12:44 AM
Yes. You would think at least one of them could make something that doesn't look like it took thalidomide.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on May 10, 2013, 04:21:36 AM
Yes. You would think at least one of them could make something that doesn't look like it took thalidomide.

That was utterly low-PC, Dave, but vastly funny!
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on May 11, 2013, 02:04:54 PM


 Let's just say it's so ugly that even Henry J won't threaten a lawsuit  ;)
 
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Highlander on May 11, 2013, 05:13:12 PM
Isn't that an RD? ;)

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o ;D
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on May 12, 2013, 03:17:48 AM
Neepheid needs to be drowned in that well too, it's getting kind of crowded there! ; -)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: neepheid on May 12, 2013, 04:49:14 AM
Heh, I've often described the RD body shape as a sort of melty Thunderbird.  It's hard to describe at the best of times.  Doesn't mean I don't love it to bits though ;)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on May 13, 2013, 06:07:50 AM
Too late!!!

(http://www.sheilaomalley.com/archives/thering_well.jpg)

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: NOT on December 03, 2013, 05:25:20 AM
I got the chance to play this bass at Sam Ash. Looks a lot better in person. Although, it's not Thunderbird pretty. And sure doesn't sound like a 'Bird either. Sounds just like his Spector bass tone. Plugged into a small Ampeg combo it and it was easy to achieve his 'Girls, Girls, Girls' tone. The bass felt like his Epi Blackbird Model. And the neck was much larger than a Thunderbird. Very P bass-ish.

If it had an actual Thunderbird shape, I'd be all over it.

Overall a very nice bass, but it looks like a cartoon-ish Thunderbird IMO.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 03, 2013, 10:49:40 AM

It's the Pontiac Aztec of basses.


No, I, like you, drive a Legacy wagon (05 GT). I just didn't think the bass looked that bad.


LOL.  I know I am in a very small minority, but I actually like the Aztec..... the Sixx Sig is a fugly beast though, especially in that horrible burst.  Much worse than the car (I even like the yellow ones).
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on December 03, 2013, 11:27:06 AM


LOL.  I know I am in a very small minority, but I actually like the Aztec..... the Sixx Sig is a fugly beast though, especially in that horrible burst.  Much worse than the car (I even like the yellow ones).


 I think your vision clouded by excessive Back Bacon consumption  ;D


Aztek  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 03, 2013, 01:35:22 PM
I got the chance to play this bass at Sam Ash. Looks a lot better in person. Although, it's not Thunderbird pretty. And sure doesn't sound like a 'Bird either. Sounds just like his Spector bass tone. Plugged into a small Ampeg combo it and it was easy to achieve his 'Girls, Girls, Girls' tone. The bass felt like his Epi Blackbird Model. And the neck was much larger than a Thunderbird. Very P bass-ish.

If it had an actual Thunderbird shape, I'd be all over it.

Overall a very nice bass, but it looks like a cartoon-ish Thunderbird IMO.

It had good reviews in the German Gitarre & Bass mag, but they said too that there wasn't much T-Bird tone to it. But then I don't think that Nikki ever played his Birds for the tone, he obviously liked the Overend Watts look of them. That is not to say that he doesn't care about his tone - his bass tone with Mötley is never anything less than mighty live -, but that he doesn't shun away from a nice P-Bass snap & growl either, IIRC he has a P-Bass too which he dearly loves and doesn't smash up.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: NOT on December 04, 2013, 06:07:02 AM
"It had good reviews in the German Gitarre & Bass mag, but they said too that there wasn't much T-Bird tone to  it. But then I don't think that Nikki ever played his Birds for the tone, he obviously liked the Overend Watts look of them. That is not to say that he doesn't care about his tone - his bass tone with Mötley is never anything less than mighty live -, but that he doesn't shun away from a nice P-Bass snap & growl either, IIRC he has a P-Bass too which he dearly loves and doesn't smash up."

Yes, I never understood the big hoopla over Nikki Sixx's bass tone. I really dig it. I've seen them live 5 times and each time it really stands out. Especially on certain songs. 'Primal Scream', 'Afraid', 'Louder Than Hell'. Although the Schecter in a live setting didn't sound as mean as his Thunderbirds. Although I do have a Tbird bias...

While watching the road crew set Mötley's show up, I noticed all of his Schecter Sixx Basses are kept in Gibson Thunderbird/Blackbird Hardshell cases. Wonder if the interior had to be modified...
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: stiles72 on December 04, 2013, 01:47:58 PM
In this interview, Sixx references his '59 P-bass as influencing the Schecter...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cRinZRNmSQ
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: planetgaffnet on December 05, 2013, 11:10:59 AM
In this interview, Sixx references his '59 P-bass as influencing the Schecter...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cRinZRNmSQ

So the Schecter didn't make it into the Crue video.
P
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Nocturnal on December 05, 2013, 12:19:33 PM
I found it odd that they used a clip of him playing a Thunderbird to promote the new bass  ???
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 05, 2013, 12:44:11 PM
The superior will always be the natural enemy of the only "good".
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on December 05, 2013, 02:08:33 PM

 That bass is a turd that even Nikki can't polish.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Hörnisse on December 05, 2013, 08:08:16 PM
I'd like to find one of these someday.  I've got the NJ version but it doesn't have the slab body with binding like the USA one.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2pplwyt.jpg)

Nikki rocking the Mockingbird bass. (and Mick with the Warlock guitar)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FToyVkqPW7Y
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Nocturnal on December 05, 2013, 10:46:54 PM
I would love to add one of those Warlock's to the collection!! Especially with that headstock. The white with black binding is pretty sweet looking too.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Blackbird on December 06, 2013, 04:14:08 AM
A similar one went on the Bay..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1985-Bc-Rich-NJ-Series-Warlock-Bass-Vintage-White-MIJ-/111174271525?pt=Guitar&hash=item19e280c225&nma=true&si=mEKXB1tmc2glvfby3YB0dopiEYE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Nocturnal on December 06, 2013, 06:02:14 AM
I had seen that one. I was tempted by it but really would like to hold out for the one with binding.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: gearHed289 on December 06, 2013, 09:16:49 AM
In this interview, Sixx references his '59 P-bass as influencing the Schecter...

Nothing says '59 P-bass like a pair of EMGs.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 06, 2013, 04:26:26 PM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: OldManC on December 06, 2013, 07:43:24 PM
I had an NJ with the slab body and binding. The neck was far more comfortable than the two US Rich basses I've owned ('77 Eagle and '81 Mockingbird) and the body was slightly smaller than US versions. It sounded better too (at least to my ears). I sold it to a guy back east who was in a Motley tribute band. He'd been looking for years and was really happy with it. I got it direct from Japan so it might be good to keep an eye out there.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/auctions/Warlock/Warlock.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gcarlston/media/auctions/Warlock/Warlock.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Blackbird on December 07, 2013, 07:03:33 AM
George....what are all of those switches on that about?  It's like an Alembic...
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2013, 07:53:52 AM
They're all kill switches, even filled to the brim with heroin (rhymes!), you're bound to hit one to get the darn thing silent.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 07, 2013, 07:59:33 AM
Flash thought: There should be a Federal Law against split coils on anything but a Fender P.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: OldManC on December 07, 2013, 08:31:17 AM
Here's a typical layout from the era (though Bichs like this had more than the rest). I remember liking two or three combinations of switching on my basses but even then I thought it was overkill.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/dudepit/BichPMScontrollayout-450pix_zps8d0524e6.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gcarlston/media/dudepit/BichPMScontrollayout-450pix_zps8d0524e6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Nocturnal on December 07, 2013, 08:48:15 AM
Even with all of those switches and controls I would find a way to make it sound bad  :-[

George, That white Warlock looks killer! That is the type I would like to have.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: chromium on December 07, 2013, 09:25:22 AM
Great looking Warlock, George!  I've never had a chance to try the NJ stuff, but if its anything like the other Japanese axen of the era I bet its nice.

I love the neck on my Mockingbird.  I was told its a '79, but I'm not entirely sure how to date them... (s/n 81XXX).  The neck is 1 5/8" at the nut, and slender profile.  Wide and shallow- like a Kardashian!  :)

Just managed to buy another BC from the same dude a year later.  This one is even more of a switchfest than the Mock!

(crappy cell pic from while it was getting boxed up)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/bc-rich/bich-grw-ship.jpg)

Bich Supreme in glitter rock white.  89XXX s/n - whatever year that is.  '83-ish?

I heard that its a good bass for metal  :P
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Dave W on December 07, 2013, 09:28:38 AM
I almost bought a Bich once. It was a US made bolt neck, dirt cheap in a local shop about 15 years ago. The owner talked me out of it, told me I would never play it in public. He was right, not my style.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: chromium on December 07, 2013, 10:48:58 AM
The owner talked me out of it, told me I would never play it in public. He was right, not my style.

I'm all about public ridicule... I'll work it into the Wilson Pickett covers somehow  ;D

They're all kill switches, even filled to the brim with heroin (rhymes!), you're bound to hit one to get the darn thing silent.

 :mrgreen: 

Funny comment I had seen somewhere:  "it's just a vol/tone, and the rest controls the plane flying overhead"

Thought of you when I came across this little "Bich fest" recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6YOhfHwpLQ
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: planetgaffnet on December 07, 2013, 11:40:40 AM
See, this thread has now come full circle.  Suzi Quatro/Nikki Sixx both had their names on the fingerboards of their basses.*

P

*at one time or another.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Blackbird on December 08, 2013, 08:52:01 AM
Great looking Warlock, George!  I've never had a chance to try the NJ stuff, but if its anything like the other Japanese axen of the era I bet its nice.

I love the neck on my Mockingbird.  I was told its a '79, but I'm not entirely sure how to date them... (s/n 81XXX).  The neck is 1 5/8" at the nut, and slender profile.  Wide and shallow- like a Kardashian!  :)

Just managed to buy another BC from the same dude a year later.  This one is even more of a switchfest than the Mock!

(crappy cell pic from while it was getting boxed up)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/bc-rich/bich-grw-ship.jpg)

Bich Supreme in glitter rock white.  89XXX s/n - whatever year that is.  '83-ish?

I heard that its a good bass for metal  :P

that is crazy.  No way I would be able to deal with all of those.....
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 08, 2013, 04:37:36 PM
Flash thought: There should be a Federal Law against split coils on anything but a Fender P.

Mind yer own jurisdiction, Hans!  Here in 'Murica, we enjoy our freedom to rock any way we like (firmly entrenched in the constitution ... somewhere between the freedom of religion and right to bear arms).
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on December 08, 2013, 04:58:00 PM


 
Mind yer own jurisdiction, Hans!  Here in 'Murica, we enjoy our freedom to rock any way we like (firmly entrenched in the constitution ... somewhere between the freedom of religion and right to bear arms).


 I thought you were Canadian?!  :)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: chromium on December 08, 2013, 08:23:09 PM
Flash thought: There should be a Federal Law against split coils on anything but a Fender P.
Mind yer own jurisdiction, Hans!  Here in 'Murica, we enjoy our freedom to rock any way we like (firmly entrenched in the constitution ... somewhere between the freedom of religion and right to bear arms).

Dual P setups like these always remind me of Tetris  :P

Quote from: Blackbird
that is crazy.  No way I would be able to deal with all of those.....

It looks convoluted, but it's hard to get a bad sound out of the thing.  Most of the controls are 'set and forget' for me.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 09, 2013, 01:26:06 PM

 

 I thought you were Canadian?!  :)


Darn right, a Brit-grovelling royalist.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 09, 2013, 01:32:03 PM

 

 I thought you were Canadian?!  :)


I am.... but if I talked about The Charter of Rights and Freedoms would anyone have any idea what I was going on about or found the humour in it? Besides, y'all have been looking to annex us for decades, and we enjoy special almost-American privileges such as not requiring passports at boarder crossings... until recently anyway... though I think they rolled that back again so we just need a driver's license... I just know enough to check before every trip... which, no offense (I just don't like boarder security people of any nationality ever since I was singled out for special search as a pimply 16 year old on my way home to Canada by a large and hungry looking Bavarian woman who spent much too long examining the plastic bag of dirty underpants  in my suitcase, totally ignoring the butterfly knife I bought for $1 in Poland... though I'd still chalk that up as worth the trip due to the fine tradition of pick up games of topless volleyball that springing up at every local swimming hole in the Pettendoprf area; SPIKE!), are graciously few and far between.

Darn right, a Brit-grovelling royalist.

Don't even; I'm an immigrant and the colonial wars had nothing to do with me. ... anyway, they got a much nicer White House out of it in the end so it all worked out.

#burnthatshitdownagain #totallyjustkiddingguys #wecouldtotallyneverpullthatoneoffagain
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on December 09, 2013, 05:25:26 PM


 I think the last thing you'd want would be U.S. annexation...... Trust me.

Enjoy your Canadianess - And another piece of Back Bacon eh  ;)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Pilgrim on December 09, 2013, 05:35:15 PM
Beauty!

(http://musiccanada.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/gwn.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Dave W on December 09, 2013, 07:35:45 PM
Take off, eh.

Geddy was a good sport to do the chorus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svOVJzmhAjw
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 10, 2013, 10:09:28 AM

 I think the last thing you'd want would be U.S. annexation...... Trust me.

Enjoy your Canadianess - And another piece of Back Bacon eh  ;)

Oh for sure - never said I wanted it, just that the US Oligarchs have been eyeing that option for a while.

... anyway, cut it out you hosers.


Geddy was a good sport to do the chorus.


I always assumed that all of Rush was helping out there.  ... I wonder if part of the Canadian rep for politeness comes from this sort of vernacular stereotype - in reality everywhere they say Take Off it would be an F-bomb.  'Hoser' is used a little by the 60s generation only (again) asa substitute for actual swears in front of the kids.  ... I only know one dude (a friend's dad) who uses it (outside of riffing on Bob n Doug obviously), and even then, only at us (when he thought we weren't around he'd cuss out his buddies normally).

Anyway, funny how things come around again (this time without the prime-time safe euthamisms):

(http://www.torontolife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/the-ford-brothers-bong.jpg)

Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Pilgrim on December 10, 2013, 03:12:14 PM

Anyway, funny how things come around again (this time without the prime-time safe euthamisms):

(http://www.torontolife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/the-ford-brothers-bong.jpg)


Nice to see that things continue as usual for our northern neighbors.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 10, 2013, 03:44:49 PM
I just can't get over that those two dolts are actually brothers named Bob (Rob; Robert) and Doug.  

This one is even more uncanny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUY6lDja-DE

I mean, come on, you couldn't have asked for more synchronicity there, between his pre-politics DUI/dropped possession charge in Florida, to this exact thing being in a Farley flick already:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOf7olN0I8


Anyway, enough about that, sorry for the derail.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 11, 2013, 11:53:52 AM
Sheer jealousy of that one nation under Canada ...
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Highlander on December 11, 2013, 03:03:40 PM
Why, I do believe it's Mr Sixx's birthday... 55 today... Happy birthday Sir...!
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 12, 2013, 07:15:52 AM
Sheer jealousy of that one nation under Canada ...

As soon as we secure our ownership of the arctic and it's oil, we will have dominion over all the earth by virtue of our oil and water reserves.  All this time y'all thought we were being nice; muahahahahahahaha.

... and happy birthday Nikki.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 12, 2013, 11:27:54 AM
Baby-seal-killer!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 12, 2013, 11:30:11 AM
They are a scurge!  Overrunning the tundra and eating all the... em... snow!
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Dave W on December 12, 2013, 01:32:27 PM
Baby-seal-killer!  :mrgreen:

Now you know what he means when he says he's going clubbing. He probably takes his Victory with him.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 12, 2013, 01:37:54 PM
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on December 12, 2013, 01:43:46 PM
As soon as we secure our ownership of the arctic and it's oil, we will have dominion over all the earth by virtue of our oil and water reserves.  All this time y'all thought we were being nice; muahahahahahahaha.

... and happy birthday Nikki.

Great, you've already got all the Back Bacon and most of the Maple Syrup.........

 I think it's time for a hostile takeover  ;D
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 12, 2013, 03:31:31 PM
The Canucks are already building their defenses! Inevitably with small hiccups, but undeterred as regards the worthy national effort.

(http://www.jetew.com/Beaver.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on December 12, 2013, 04:07:18 PM


 That's a different kind of beaver than the one at my house  ???
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 12, 2013, 04:48:36 PM
(Inquisitively) Yours are never under some wood, right?
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Highlander on December 12, 2013, 04:49:41 PM
There is that rather poor taste baby seal joke... their fave drink... Canadian Club...
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2013, 08:05:58 AM
Lovely!!!!  :mrgreen:

Can't we have a mandatory avatar moniker for all Canadian members like "Babysealclubber1", "Babysealclubber2" etc?
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on December 13, 2013, 08:11:53 AM
(Inquisitively) Yours are never under some wood, right?

 We have the less furry ones here  ;)


That must be a French Canadian Beaver, I hear they don't shave much.
 
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Dave W on December 13, 2013, 08:25:29 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3O4QGMkPjk
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 13, 2013, 09:23:47 AM
I prefer this one.  Take it as warning fellas  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XdLheUC7kA
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2013, 09:35:04 AM
We have the less furry ones here  ;)


That must be a French Canadian Beaver, I hear they don't shave much.
 

And start drinking early in the day which does invite tree accidents.

Polish Canadians are the worst, really.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 13, 2013, 09:47:34 AM
Look, if you like bald beaver then, fine, but from where I sit, that's a bit weird.  I like my beaver to be of age so there damn better be fur on it, or I'm out.... also, I am a hairy beast (Lumberjack culture as well as genetics), and fair's fair, I'm not shavin either.  ... and before a further line of jokes start, there's a big distance between unkept mess and shaved; keeping things neat and tidy is expected on all sides.

Also, I dunno if a German partner-level lawyer should be talking about who is or isn't "the worst."  I bet it's all Mad Men breakfast up there on the _teenth floor with a clear view to the former Zyklon B factory (yer fault for pointing it out to me on that tour of Frankfurt).  :P
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2013, 10:40:29 AM
Hairlessness is overrated! But you know how the Yanks always cut off more than they can chew.

As regards the Zyklon B holding company office, the whole site I showed you at the time is now torn down for redevelopment, you should come for another sight-seeing tour!

And I only read recently (in leftist-liberal intellectual weekly magazine Der Freitag, just the stuff George Carlston expects me to read!), on the advent of the hundredth anniversary of Fritz Haber's

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Fritz_Haber.png/150px-Fritz_Haber.png)

invention of the ammonia synthesis process from atmospheric nitrogen, that

- much to the chagrin of the WWI Allies he received a Nobel prize for his invention as early as 1918,

- his wife tragically committed suicide one week after poison gas based on his invention was first used by Germany in Ypres in the Flanders fields and killed 6.000 Allied soldiers (Haber held the view that "dying from artillery sprapnel wounds is more cruel ....", I have my doubts, the blood loss from multiple artillery shrapnel wounds puts you to sleep quickly),

- he was faithful to the Kaiser, a glowing nationalist and jewish, which is why he had to flee Germany from Nazi persecution as early as 1933, but died already (in his late sixties) in 1934 on his way from England to a scientific convention in Switzerland,

- he was involved in the pre-1933 development of a rodent extermination poison gas called - you guessed it - Zyklon B,

- great parts of his family/relatives were gassed in Auschwitz.

That would be stuff for one hell of a biopic, don't you think? And Der Freitag posed an interesting dialectic conundrum: Should Fritz Haber be revered or reviled? Revered for being the father of modern fertilisation that supports billions on the planet which would otherwise starve to death? Or reviled for an invention that enabled the production of military explosives and ammunition, military poison gas, Zyklon B as well as ecological doubtful synthetic fertilizer that has spawned an over-population endangering the planet?

You answer that question. In any case an interesting man.

How did we get from Nikki Sixx to this again?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on December 13, 2013, 10:52:07 AM

 I wanted to join the Canadian Navy.

(http://www.cmhg.gc.ca/cmh/book_images/high/v3_c5_s03_ss04_02.jpg)


They turned me down, my wardrode and Queenly needs, including hair trimming  :-\
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2013, 11:06:36 AM
Why, you would have looked great in that uniform!

And I'm sorry how the (w)hole ward rode you, that must stick as a memory.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 13, 2013, 11:12:17 AM
BUT THE SHOES! - no good.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: uwe on December 13, 2013, 11:19:06 AM
On deck, platform boots can be hazardous. Lots of sailors around, you never know what you might slip on.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: TBird1958 on December 13, 2013, 11:57:35 AM
On deck, platform boots can be hazardous. Lots of sailors around, you never know what you might slip on.


 Ahhhhh...... Mein Gruppenfuhrer I see you've used your position of authority to edat/add an image to my post. The shoes were also part of the issue - How were my lovely legs ever going to look good on deck or in the showers with those heel less horrors?  :gay:
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Granny Gremlin on December 13, 2013, 12:38:55 PM
my point exactly; them be granny shoes.
Title: Re: Why Sixx went to Schecter....
Post by: Highlander on December 13, 2013, 04:48:11 PM
I wanted to join the Canadian Navy.

(To the tune of a popular old song) All the nice boys, like a sailor...

Anyway, she's tall enough to wear flats and get away with it...

(I think I missed your birthday while I was away, Mark, so hope it was a good debauch... ;D)