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Gear Discussion Forums => Rickenbacker Basses => Topic started by: Barklessdog on December 15, 2009, 01:21:59 PM
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Here-
http://forums.vintageguitars.org.uk/showthread.php?t=2051
Never saw one before.
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I like that!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v688/onebassplayer/John%20Birch%20Ric/P8170179.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v688/onebassplayer/John%20Birch%20Ric/P8170168.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v688/onebassplayer/John%20Birch%20Ric/P8170166.jpg)
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why so many knobs? it does look kool
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According to the owner: volume, tone in two banks on the neck end and then a master volume and a series/parallel knob and of course 3 way P/U selector.
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Geezer Butler used one for a time. Let me tell you with those John Birch pups that bass will kick ass like no Ric ever could.
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What do they sound like?
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Those pups are high output, the bass is all maple so it shares the same properties as a ric, sustain and maple snap etc. It sounds like a high powered over driven ric. search Black Sab. on youtube you will find Geezer using a green burst one sometime before '80 maybe around '74-'78.
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Tony is playing a John Birch not sure what geezer has though it is Ric shaped. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcSC0B6lbFg&feature=related
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Pretty certain that's a Ric
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Yeah I watched it some more, it is a Ric, I have been looking for the past hour for footage of Geezer with it no luck yet but he does talk about the John Birch /John Diggens basses on his/Sabs website.
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I'm pretty certain he also played a JB EB3 style, too... I may have a couple of pics, albeit from the balcony of the Hammersmith Odeon... Technical Ecstasy tour... research required...
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EB3 style ala Jimmy Lea :o :o :o :o I had no Idea I thought Jimmy had the only one ! Well aside from mine ;)
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yeah, i've seen a picture in one of those Bass Player mag. special issue "rock bass gods" or something. he's got a crazy leather suit too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4wBPbpSsiY
this is a different one than the pic i was talking about
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ok, i've been doing some research and it turns out that Ric belongs to Glen Hughes. the airline lost Geezers gear and Glen loaned him his.
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He still builds Ric clones. They look more like 4004's but he calls them 4001 (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.carling1/John_Birch_Guitars/Gallery.html#1).
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ok, i've been doing some research and it turns out that Ric belongs to Glen Hughes. the airline lost Geezers gear and Glen loaned him his.
Exactly. And Geezer hated it. As Glenn Hughes had (reverting to Fender P on subsequent DP Mk III tours). In theory, an aggressive bass like the Ric and Glenn Hughes' upfront playing were a match made in heaven, in practice it didn't work. Glenn plays the Ric throughout the Burn album and unlike Roger Glover (a much less upfront player than Glenn) is hardly heard at all with it (whereas Glover's Ric sound on MH, MIJ and WDWTWA is to cream in your pants for). The Ric is - hard to believe - buried in the mix though the album was again engineered by Martin Birch who has a reputation of mixing bass sounds loud.
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This 8-string looks like it might be a JB creation as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oLKCNbCCCY&feature=related
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That's a Birch for sure !
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Look at Iommi - dude's nose has GOT to be packed! LOL! Ozzy's havin a tough time..... Cool footage though.
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Dave that's not a Birch..........................that's a bitch ;D
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Dave that's not a Birch..........................that's a bitch ;D
:rimshot: :D ;D
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Used to look after their "primary" home alarm system - nothing but good things to say...
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I went for the cheap laugh, forgive me. If it wasn't for Sharon Ozzy would be dead by now.
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Well, now he's a living dead, lol!
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Exactly. And Geezer hated it. As Glenn Hughes had (reverting to Fender P on subsequent DP Mk III tours). In theory, an aggressive bass like the Ric and Glenn Hughes' upfront playing were a match made in heaven, in practice it didn't work. Glenn plays the Ric throughout the Burn album and unlike Roger Glover (a much less upfront player than Glenn) is hardly heard at all with it (whereas Glover's Ric sound on MH, MIJ and WDWTWA is to cream in your pants for). The Ric is - hard to believe - buried in the mix though the album was again engineered by Martin Birch who has a reputation of mixing bass sounds loud.
And still some want to believe that Glenn played the 4001 on "Made In Europe".:)
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You mean they lied!! :o ;)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/20u5t8o.jpg)
All these years I've always thought it sounded like a Ric.
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All these years I've always thought it sounded like a Ric.
Some of the pics (the front cover for example) are from "Burn" tour and the album was compiled from recordings made in the spring of '75.
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Here-
http://forums.vintageguitars.org.uk/showthread.php?t=2051
Never saw one before.
I'm getting that the link is no good. I followed it back to the site & I think they moved it (because it's not a Rick & he posted in Ricks is my guess???)
If it's the one in "Other names" I'm afraid he'll be disappointed. I saw two just like it on Ebay in the past two years, kept a pic of one of them somewhere. John was a bit of a rascal & would tell you what he thought you wanted to hear, he was also very old & had a bit of a foggy memory sometimes.
He died in Oct/Nov of 2000, just after building my bass, the ones online now are made by his buisness partner who's been OK'd to use John's name. £1400 your cash!
Magnum pups are incredible, at the time 70's/80s they were by far the loudest available, hence their use in Metal/rock guitars & basses. I've got two in my Birch bass & one in an SG Junior. It's impossible to get a clean tone out of the SG but it does cut oak trees down at 500 yards :mrgreen: