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Title: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: Barklessdog on February 25, 2008, 06:04:04 AM
This is a musical pet peeve thread

With all the out of key singing you hear with bands on Myspace etc, why shouldn't most singers, be taking voice lessons. Of all the bands I was in, almost everyone was taking lessons at some point and continue to.

Or at least you would think most these bands can hear the singer is out of pitch?
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2008, 07:07:07 AM
I don't mind if a singer is occasionally a little off key (it sounds worse with high voices than in a lower register: Johnny Cash, Lee Marvin and Nick Cave were/are all not very pitch firm, but I don't mind), it can have charm.

But if it's constant, I find it grating.

Uwe
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: gweimer on February 25, 2008, 09:16:09 AM
My take is that singers who are slightly off key aren't trying to sing that way.  Greg Lake is another example.

There are far too many new singers that off key simply because they can't sing, and aren't trying to.
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: Dave W on February 25, 2008, 09:20:35 AM
String sections in rock songs.

Nope. You're allowed string bass, of course. You're allowed a fiddle, if you're Camper Van Beethoven. More than that, you can't call it rock. 
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: Chris P. on February 25, 2008, 09:29:30 AM
Dutch people are quite good in English. But the problem is everybody think they're talking and writing it perfect. Which they don't. English lyrics of Dutch bands are quite bad sometimes... I hate that more than a slightly off key singer.
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: gweimer on February 25, 2008, 09:58:55 AM
String sections in rock songs.

Nope. You're allowed string bass, of course. You're allowed a fiddle, if you're Camper Van Beethoven. More than that, you can't call it rock. 

Oh, I don't know about that.  David Cross fit into King Crimson really well.  As did Papa John Creach with Jefferson Airplane and Hot Tuna.

And "Eleanor Rigby" was a rock song in my book.  Or at least a beautifully written pop song.
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2008, 10:58:45 AM
String sections in rock songs.

Nope. You're allowed string bass, of course. You're allowed a fiddle, if you're Camper Van Beethoven. More than that, you can't call it rock. 

Oh, come on Dave, listen to this (and not just quip. "Like I said, not rock.")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNkxgjQvOa8

That's a mellotron initially, but a string section takes at 3:25 over and then melts into one gorgeous terse Blackmore solo at 4.05.

That's not rock?

And if you say this ain't rock, Scott of Thunder will drop by your house and have a word with you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_X4AyZW6LM

T. Rex songs were simply loaded with strings, on a good day even you might qualify them as rock, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iChp8bipBVE&feature=related

And while this might not be rock, it's a darn good pop (?) song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a6hu6Z7Pkg&feature=related

I rest my case and will not mention Kashmir or Rainbow's Gates of Babylon ...  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfTttPGQrMk

Lest I forget: Macca's Live and let die and John Miles' Music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf0z38rGnHQ

The Promises get honorary mention too (man, those suspenders did hard work on her, errrm, upper register  :-[ ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyvgv9J6maE

Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: Dave W on February 25, 2008, 12:59:05 PM
Hey! My pet peeves, my rules!  :P 8)
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: MattK on February 25, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
Seven string guitars, especially when played through Mesa Dual Recto amps. Ugh. 
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: PWV on February 26, 2008, 07:19:32 AM
Hip hop bass lines that never have a bridge (that statement is redundant in itself I guess)....  ;)
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: godofthunder on February 26, 2008, 07:24:30 AM
Bass players in famous bands who can barley play. Uwe thanks for the Slade Clip ! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh those were the days. They were a great F'ng band. Can I change my user name to Slade ?
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: Max Soren on February 26, 2008, 11:42:06 AM
Bass players in famous bands who can barley play. Uwe thanks for the Slade Clip ! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh those were the days. They were a great F'ng band. Can I change my user name to Slade ?

Actually, I think you can change your user name on this site.  Unless, of course, you were just joking about that. 
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: TBird1958 on February 26, 2008, 12:35:41 PM

 Metal (in all its modern redactions).....and Hip-Hop. So formulaeic. 

 
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: PWV on February 26, 2008, 02:25:25 PM
One for the Church Musicians: Praise Songs from the 80's and 90's that HAVE TO modulate keys at least two times.  (We called those "Trinity" songs because the formula seemed to be to arrive at 3 keys = Father/Son/Holy Ghost)....

Also from that era:  Praise Songs that repeat the title of the song umpteen times.  We called those "7-11 Praise Songs" - Seven words repeated 11 times.

Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: TBird1958 on February 26, 2008, 03:59:28 PM

Dave,

 I hope you were kidding about playing keys with The Nasty Habits......... It will get you sent to Ummmm
Hell.  ;)
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: PWV on February 26, 2008, 07:05:34 PM
Dave,

 I hope you were kidding about playing keys with The Nasty Habits......... It will get you sent to Ummmm
Hell.  ;)

I believe Jesus wore a dress too Mark.  He just covered his knees better...   ;D
Title: Revelations ...
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2008, 03:53:04 AM
Up to now I thought Mark more in the Mary Magdalene category ...
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: godofthunder on February 27, 2008, 05:03:55 AM
You mean Marks a 40 year old virgin ?  ;D
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: TBird1958 on February 27, 2008, 10:09:56 AM

You mean Marks a 40 year old virgin ?  ;D

 Wow! That's one of the nicest things anyone's said about me in years! Thanks Scott.
Since I'm 50 this year.....and it's been 35 since....Ummmmm I lost my virtue...... ;)
 
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: godofthunder on February 27, 2008, 04:18:06 PM
 You have aged well Mark, I'll be 49 in June.......................... I can't belive it.
Title: A religious post ...
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2008, 02:45:45 AM
You mean Marks a 40 year old virgin ?  ;D


Considering you're all descendants of religious zealots who couldn't get along with society in Europe, your biblical knowledge is fleeting to say the least ...  ;D ;D ;D

Mary Magdalene was not an adult virgin   :o nor depicted in the New Testament as such. In fact she had a (very old) profession that generally rules out virginity. You're thinking of Mother Mary/the Virgin Mary/Holy Mary. There are two Mary's in that big fat book, ok?  ;D Only one washed Jesus' feet and dried them with her hair and that was not his mother. :-* And no, his mother did not sing to him "and I've had so many men before in oh so many ways", that was "the other Mary":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn7exBrCiUI

And with all due respect, I never thought of Fräulein Rommel as a virgin even for the best of causes!  In the Jesus Christ Superstar cast I could have envisaged her more as part of King Herod's entourage! ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb_9uH-ELJE

Uwe

PS: I can maybe forgive you for skipping Sunday school when this was taught, but not knowing the Jesus Christ Superstar plot when the original version featured no one less than Ian Gillan is sinful.  ;D And don't even start about Ted Neeley being better ...  :D
 
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: godofthunder on February 28, 2008, 05:38:23 AM
What do I know? I was in a church ..............................once when I was baptised, being a infant I didn't have much choice you see.
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: TBird1958 on February 28, 2008, 08:53:39 AM

 I've been ex-communicated   :-[

It's alot easier and way more fun to just dress up like a bad catholic school girl.

Modern country music is another Pet Peeve...........and its not music but NASCAR's right up there too.

 
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: Dave W on February 28, 2008, 12:00:29 PM
...........and its not music but NASCAR's right up there too.

But the roar of engines is music to my ears.  ;)

And besides, NASCAR is so real, just like pro wrestling!  ;D
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: TBird1958 on February 28, 2008, 01:03:28 PM

 I love the sound of engines too.....

You're SO right in your assesment of NASCAR Dave, I couldn't agree more.  :D
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: godofthunder on February 28, 2008, 05:49:57 PM
"I've been ex-communicated" Don't worry Mark if there is a god he doesn't care, only people do. Bad catholic school girl  :o Now my engine is running   ;)
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: Lightyear on February 28, 2008, 06:09:30 PM
Modern country music is another Pet Peeve...........and its not music but NASCAR's right up there too.

 


GO FAST!.....TURN LEFT!......GO FAST!.....TURN LEFT!........... :P
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: TBird1958 on February 28, 2008, 06:24:15 PM
 
 "GO FAST!.....TURN LEFT!......GO FAST!.....TURN LEFT!........... "

Exciting......just like Hip-Hop  :-X
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: Dave W on February 28, 2008, 06:46:59 PM

 "GO FAST!.....TURN LEFT!......GO FAST!.....TURN LEFT!........... "

Exciting......just like Hip-Hop  :-X

Hey Mark, you too can be a hip-hop star. Just install this program.  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/davepix/humor/rnbcreator2.jpg)
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: TBird1958 on February 28, 2008, 06:52:15 PM

 Wow!  ya think I.....aawww no that'll that talent.  :'(
Title: Re: Musical Pet Peves
Post by: PWV on February 28, 2008, 08:28:28 PM
Pet Peeve #47:  Digital reverb on snare drums.