The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: Stjofön Big on June 16, 2009, 03:36:43 AM
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Now that we're getting close to a beautiful ending of thi project, what would be the obvious continuation? There's still dreams out there, dreams to fulfill (with a gravely voice). What about a reversed model T? In colours such as the ones we've got, plus cherry red? If it was possible to get them, at around the same price, there would be (almost) no need to look furthur, as Ken Kesey once put it.
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Of course I already gave BaCH a few suggestions.
Roman told me the development and production cost of the bridge weighed pretty heavy on the whole project.
So I suggested they build some more basses that feature that bridge /tailstop configuration: a Non Reverse Tbird IV (with two pickups), a Reverse Tbird II and IV, a Fenderbird and maybe even an Embassy.
Roman told me he was really interested in the Fenderbird idea. He even asked me for some additional info. So I sent him some pics.
I have no idea what the status of that project is...
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I'd go for a Non Reverse Fenderbird!
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I would definitely buy an Embassy and would be very interested in a Fenderbird. A Fenderbird would also be a lot cheaper to send to the U.S. if they shipped it as a separate neck and finished body. I would also be very excited to buy a reverse TB II.
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Heh, I emailed Roman this morning who emailed me immediately. I can still get a BaCHbird as long as it's black or blue, so I've signed on for a black one. :)
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What about a long scale Eb0, -59 version? With a T-bird pup?
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What about a long scale Eb0, -59 version? With a T-bird pup?
I doubt if there would be a large demand for that...
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Well, who would ever thought there would be such an interest in a non rev? On the other hand, what about an Eb0 with original model PU? I am easy fellow! But the long scale is a must!!! ;)
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Well, who would ever thought there would be such an interest in a non rev?
The non reverse has been the most popular of the rare Gibsons for a long long time, first in the Pit, from then on. It has to be the most requested basses to be re-issued here and previously.
Rob you should do a poll.
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The whole idea here was a reissue. I would be surprised if there were a demand for something that never was (e.g. long scale 59-style EB-0).
Shall we separate this into its own request thread?
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I'd go for an Embassy in a heartbeat. The nice thing about that is that the bridge is already done at BaCH.
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"I would be surprised if there were a demand for something that never was (e.g. long scale 59-style EB-0)."
Now, David, is this your way of saying something about the Fenderbird? ;)
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There are several Fenderbirds worldwide. It is a legendary design made famous by John Entwistle.
I have never seen a long scale 59 style EBO with Tbird bridge/tailstop and Tbird pickup.
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So if Entwhistle had put a long scale neck on an Eb0 body, then it would have been all right? Naaaw, come on now! Let's be just a little bit broadminded! It's almost mid summer!!!
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Haha Staffan, what I meant with the Entwistle remark is that lots of people want an instrument just like their favorite artist.
So if Entwistle would've done that to an EB0 I'm pretty sure there would be lots of bass players that would want one, yes.
It's not up to me to decide. But for BaCH it's only interesting if they can expect a demand for such a bass.
I'm afraid you may be one of very few on this planet who wants such a bass ;)
Leon Wilkeson got his Fenderbird from John Entwistle.
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I think a IV would be a no-brainer, he has all the parts , why not?
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May I have your votes gentlemen?
Staffan, you can only vote once 8)
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Haha Staffan, what I meant with the Entwistle remark is that lots of people want an instrument just like their favorite artist.
So if Entwistle would've done that to an EB0 I'm pretty sure there would be lots of bass players that would want one, yes.
It's not up to me to decide. But for BaCH it's only interesting if they can expect a demand for such a bass.
I'm afraid you may be one of very few on this planet who wants such a bass ;)
Leon Wilkeson got his Fenderbird from John Entwistle.
Hence the 5000 different Fender Signature models...
Now that's an interesting bit of trivia regarding that Fenderbird! I wonder who has it now.
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Seems like I have to get a fan club going! I bet there's hundreds of thousands chicks and aspiring rock musicians who are ready for beefy 60+ guy with a beer habit! Do you think that could be possible, Doc?
Concerning a version of the -59 Eb0 this is as close as I've come. In the middle, sitting on my sofa, as Ray Davies put it so splendidly!
http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220.0;attach=86;image
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I voted Embassy. Makes sense since they already have the bridge and pickup.
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I voted Embassy. Makes sense since they already have the bridge and pickup.
Yes, but all the models in the poll feature that bridge and pickup(s)
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True. But only one is distinct enough to be an Embassy. 8)
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I needs a Reverse TB II........................ ;D
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Since whatever the next model is won't be available left-handed, I dont guess I care what it is.
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Embassy bass for sure. Great design like. Long scale EB, why? If it's for me everything short scale please! and lefthanded of course but I doubt they will make one lefty just for me (or two). De bachbird is hanging upside down and looks great that way!
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Back in the Dudepit days a few guys at the Southpaw dept. were recruting for a lefty NR Tbird. If I'm not mistaken Rhythm n Bliss and Iome were involved.
If you get 20 lefty enthousiasts signed up, BaCH will be happy to make you guys a lefthanded NR Tbird (or any other model).
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Yeah right....in a cupple of years or three? :mrgreen: that'll be great but we were only 8-10 interested, maybe now that the righties are done someone else would join....i could start asking round again, also on the lefty bassist site...hmmm.... :)
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Why not order two each? :mrgreen:
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If they make a lefty model of one of these and I'm not in the poorhouse, I may sign up for one just to have it. ;D
I voted Embassy but I'd be just as excited about a reverse TBII. Truth be told, I'll buy whatever Gibson inspired bass they do next if I have the money to do so. I love the idea of having our own little ho collection being almost custom built in the Czech Republic!
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Well I was kind of reluctant to mention this given the general sensitivity around this particular brand/subject, but the "four-thousand-five" is a model that could also leverage that bridge, along with a readily available tailpiece (ala the Epi/Rogue/etc.. Hoffie clones):
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/rickenbacker4005.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/BTP-SDT-C.jpg)
Actually, there are quite a few similarities to the NR:
-vintage prices in the USD 4-10K-ish range, depending on condition
-the manufacturer has no appetite to revisit/reissue it (a moral gray area much like the NR; a clone would not compete with sales of a current model)
-other than one-offs, no one has ever built a decent replica
-looks great in videos ;)
-I'm speculating there would be some demand for an alternative to the original
Anyways... just a thought. Like Doc's project, it might be fun to take some liberties - get it in mahog, or with better pickup placement. Much like the NR, I'd love a real one but I'll never be able to justify the current cost of admission.
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I think the logical choice is the Embassy. Most of the others can be had/built one way or the other. The Embassy, like the NR Bird, is something that nobody is doing right now. And we should get them in Inverness Green! :mrgreen:
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Well with my vote the Embassy has almost 50% of the total, and with nineteen votes total we've almost got enough for an order...............................Ok you ten non Embassy voters, submit to the will of the masses! Does 19 qualify as a mass?
Cheers!
S.
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Count me in on an Embassy bass. BaCH would have to make some rings for those Artces, though. It would look a little funny without them.
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Non Reverse IV, all the way!
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A long-scale Explorer would be cool, too. I don't have space/money for another bass EXCEPT for an Explorer..........
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I think the logical choice is the Embassy. :mrgreen:
OK Gary, now in most things you hold a good deal of credibility but when it comes to unbiased comments about an Embassy........... NOT! :mrgreen:
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The Embassy does seem the logical next step. I would love to see a Triumph bass but the logistics of that might be a bit far fetched.
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I marvel how people volunteer for what is essentially the most unbalanced bass in the world! :mrgreen:
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And your suggestion herr moderator?
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I marvel how people volunteer for what is essentially the most unbalanced bass in the world! :mrgreen:
I think the Thunderbird is at the front of the line for unbalanced. The Embassy hangs a little better, but still has that neck dive reputation.
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I think the Thunderbird is at the front of the line for unbalanced. The Embassy hangs a little better, but still has that neck dive reputation.
Until I relocated the front pin, the T-Bird pitched forward like an Olympic cliff diver.
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This is really stretching my memory but didnt Leon Wilkesons TB or FB have a faux horn on it to balance it up?
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we should get them in Inverness Green! :mrgreen:
Yes. Yes we should!
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I voted Embassy. that cherry gib red bird pics that were posted at the end of the Bach thread is a beauty. Inverness is cool too. In fact I bought some for the BaCH bird but the finish is better than I expected & I dont need another project :mrgreen:
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Inverness Green... :thumbsup: yes yes drool
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I marvel how people volunteer for what is essentially the most unbalanced bass in the world! :mrgreen:
Ummmmmm.........................and you would know!
Unbalanced......this from a native of the country that brought us this......
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Blohm_und_Voss_Bv141_rear.jpg&imgrefurl=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blohm_und_Voss_Bv141_rear.jpg&usg=__wgxhXWNAJC2Ps5oB2Z7S4zYHaCw=&h=372&w=600&sz=42&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=em0hxh1c_wu4_M:&tbnh=84&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGerman%2BBlohm%2Bund%2BVoss%2BBv%2B141%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
not that I don't appreciate the need for function to direct form............
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Inverness Green? Pic, anyone?
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(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/1937748/p4_uug2yp1pw_ss.jpg)
Or maybe California Coral...
(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/2044434/p1_uji1ptxrh_ss.jpg)
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Well I was kind of reluctant to mention this given the general sensitivity around this particular brand/subject, but the "four-thousand-five" is a model that could also leverage that bridge, along with a readily available tailpiece (ala the Epi/Rogue/etc.. Hoffie clones):
That wouldn't fly. That particular company protects their designs fervently. The Bach web site had at one time a very nice all mahogany four thousand three clone for sale. Once word hit a particular forum it was pulled.
I would prefer a NR IV, but I'd buy an Embassy too.
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They still several clones of "that brand" up sor sale on their website!
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(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/1937748/p4_uug2yp1pw_ss.jpg)
Holy crap! That's beeeeeautiful!
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MMMMMM!mmmmmmm! Like well made smoked brisket!Tender ,hot & smokey!
Holy crap! That's beeeeeautiful!
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I marvel how people volunteer for what is essentially the most unbalanced bass in the world! :mrgreen:
One of it's many charms, As many times told my main bass since '77. I never found them all that neck heavy. I think the younger generation is spoiled, "oh it must hang just so" Goldie locks syndrome if ya ask me. ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/gartonscot2a_5.jpg)
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Didn't know you covered Bay City Roller's stuff, Scott... ;D (ducking for "covers"...)
I hope your guitarist has asked the permission of the Queen to wear that tartan, Scott...? I am not 100% sure if it is "Royal Stewart" but The Royal Household has exclusive rights to it, for some archaic reasons...
Uwe, can't you claim them back, at least the Germanic side, then "Exiled" can have the remainder... ;)
I had never realised how different the body shape was... the classic "reverse" is not...
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I just thought of this last night - I'm surprised nobody has suggested a LP Jr. style EB-0. Those are beautiful! I'd probably turn mine into a "Gene" bass with the "mudbucker" toward the bridge. Maybe try tracking down one of those SG RI TB+-disguised-as-mudbucker pups. ;D
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1144/geneebobody.jpg)
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Staffan suggested a Jr. style EB-0 near the start of this thread, that's why it's in the poll. He suggested long scale and with a T-bird pickup.
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Didn't know you covered Bay City Roller's stuff, Scott... ;D (ducking for "covers"...)
I hope your guitarist has asked the permission of the Queen to wear that tartan, Scott...? I am not 100% sure if it is "Royal Stewart" but The Royal Household has exclusive rights to it, for some archaic reasons...
Uwe, can't you claim them back, at least the Germanic side, then "Exiled" can have the remainder... ;)
I had never realised how different the body shape was... the classic "reverse" is not...
We all know the Bay City Rollers nicked the tartan bit from Slade. ;D
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That may be, but little girls were probably a little scared of ol' Noddy. :o
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Staffan suggested a Jr. style EB-0 near the start of this thread, that's why it's in the poll. He suggested long scale and with a T-bird pickup.
Oops... Sorry, been sick all week. Maybe the long scale part made me ignore it. I don't like that body with a long neck.
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MAMMA WE'RE ORL CRAZEE NOW...!
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/cumbria/content/images/2006/04/05/slade_promo_470x394.jpg)
Wot's 2 b skared orf...?
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And these guys never broke in America because why? :o ;D
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And these guys never broke in America because why? :o ;D
They kinda did. It was just under their pseudonym, Quiet Riot. :vader:
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Wot's 2 b skared orf...?
Err...Dave Hill for starters?
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Err...Dave Hill for starters?
I SO love Slade..................But I remember how Dave Hill's hair just scared the %&$^ out of my proper German mother ;)
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No hair left to worry about... ;D
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Not only the hair was reason for concern.
I mean, look at that pic with the Pharao-mirror-ball-suit. :D
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Slade were big here. LOved 'em!
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No doubt Dave took the Glam thing to far, that image just did not resonate with the US crowd.To be honest his guitar skills were not up to snuff, he should have spent more time on his instrument than on his wardrobe. I love them just the same.
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Not only the hair was reason for concern.
I mean, look at that pic with the Pharao-mirror-ball-suit. :D
That's the get up Jim Lea dubbed the metal nun.
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Getting back to topic, they should do another run of NR IIs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please don't distract Roman and the boys !
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Kiljoy... ;)
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That's the get up Jim Lea dubbed the metal nun.
Must be a bass thing because that's exactly what I saw when that picture popped up!