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Gear Discussion Forums => Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs => Topic started by: shadowcastaz on August 27, 2008, 04:52:28 PM

Title: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on August 27, 2008, 04:52:28 PM
I was goofing around the other day and looking at the marked finish on this  gutless bass.I decided to spot strip some chips ( which were strangely round) and steam some dents. The finish is a dark burst and there is some sexy checking in the finish. I was  trying to remove some buckle rash and realized the body was 1 piece of mahog! very nice swirl and deep color. so I stripped the  whole body.It really is a beautiful piece of wood. Im going to try to leave the black fade on the back of neck heal and head stock from the orig  burst finish. I may end up  doing a burst on it in the long run, but I love the natural  look at this point.
There was only checking on the top around the PG,not under, which I had not seen before.
 I think I have a plan for the single  coil pups too. If i only had some posts for the bridge........
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: drbassman on August 27, 2008, 05:59:13 PM
I just got a 301 bridge and post but no inserts!  I don't know where you'd find these posts (unless you come across them on eBay as I did) , they are a bit larger than Gibson posts.  A good machinist could probably copy the ones I have.
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on August 27, 2008, 06:13:25 PM
I was bein a bit sarcastic. I was going to bid on that thinking no one would want it ....and forgot!I have the bridge and gutless body. I bet the  inserts are metric because a 3/8"  thread wont go in . (unless it is fine thread) so off to the machinist buddy, 12 pak in hand and bridge(and bass) in the other. im hopein' to save some of the krackle mojo on this. nitro is such a funny kritter,but it has been dry lately....
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: drbassman on August 27, 2008, 06:23:05 PM
If you'd like one to copy, let me know.
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on August 27, 2008, 06:42:41 PM
That would be awesome. Ill check with the machinist. He may have an easy fix. I really felt guilty stripping the 302 but it is beautiful. Now I have a shop full o projects. sounds familiar except my wife works and Im unemployed, still! Dartmouth college really sucks. 'nuff said.M
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on August 28, 2008, 12:51:59 PM
I did find out the threads are  #10 metric coarse for the posts.FYI
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: drbassman on August 28, 2008, 01:15:43 PM
No problem, just let meknow.  Thanks for the thread size, I was going to measure them when I got around to digging out my tapping set.
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on August 28, 2008, 06:18:13 PM
I saw some rugged  brass inserts (oversize) 1/2"+ for  gibby on evilbay. Any thoughts? I got some isuzu mica blue(pelham blue) and Inverness green(sherwood) Now If I only had a project............
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: drbassman on August 28, 2008, 07:52:56 PM
You're not gonna start an NR project are you?  You're getting as bad as me!  :)
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: drbassman on August 28, 2008, 07:54:28 PM
I did find out the threads are  #10 metric coarse for the posts.FYI

Is course 1 or 1.5 mm thread?  I would think 1.5, right?
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on August 29, 2008, 08:52:20 AM
no idea,Ill find out though.I could tell you how to cook it, catch a salmon with it and maybe build a frame for it. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on August 31, 2008, 10:57:30 AM
I left it dry because I dont like to wet the wood(sort of speak) too often unless I have to.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/shadowcastaz/IMGP0746.jpg)
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: drbassman on August 31, 2008, 11:23:11 AM
Nice looking grain.  My 60s TB had nice grain, but the neck repair precluded a transparent finish unfortunately.  This bass has potential!
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: Granny Gremlin on September 03, 2008, 01:10:41 PM
I've always liked the look of those Guilds. 

So whachagonna put in there?
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: eb2 on September 03, 2008, 04:13:38 PM
Good luck, and give it your all.  These things - both the 301 and 302 - are some of the finest and certainly most under-appreciated basses ever made.  I can honestly say I have enjoyed every one I have ever picked up. 
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: Dave W on September 03, 2008, 05:06:58 PM
Good luck, and give it your all.  These things - both the 301 and 302 - are some of the finest and certainly most under-appreciated basses ever made.  I can honestly say I have enjoyed every one I have ever picked up. 

Not to pour cold water on anyone's plans, but not everyone would agree. Here's what Ali McMordie of Stiff Little Fingers said about the Guild B-302 he recorded and toured with in the band's earliest years:

"Looked cool but it was a poor design with light wood, flimsy scratchplate, dodgy electrics and a raised bridge with massive bolts that tore my fecken hand to pieces!"
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: eb2 on September 03, 2008, 05:17:15 PM
I think the only thing worse than that assessment would be having to either play Alternative Ulster for several years or listen to it only once.
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: Dave W on September 03, 2008, 06:25:25 PM
I think the only thing worse than that assessment would be having to either play Alternative Ulster for several years or listen to it only once.

 :P :P :P :P :P

I take it you missed seeing them on their American tour this year.  ;)

Seriously, I don't care if you don't like their music. But the man toured extensively with it and that's his opinion of it after playing it on probably hundreds of gigs. Who else has toured with a 301 or 302?

He's played a Carvin for years now.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11287317@N04/2590862765/in/pool-stifflittlefingers/
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on September 03, 2008, 06:29:02 PM
This bass has a nice feel . I think its the neck profile
For the guts
- I have a matched pair of fender jazzpups. the 302's had singles that were (looked like anyway) wound on P90 bobbins. I got 2 pair of cover ,1set emg 40 style covers & 1 set 4 string soap bar covers. Im going to mark and drill  pole holes to match the  poles on the fender pups. If that works Ill pot them and Im done. If not, Ill have to spend some $$,maybe.
-i have a Guild harness 7 switch .
- my machinist buddy took some metric  allen screws and milled them so I can try them for bridge posts. he was swamped so Ill have him do some "authentic ones" if these dont work. It took him 10 minutes!!If you look at the pic, the screw on left is what he started with. he also drilled holes in my ETS bridge for my S1 project
raised bridge with massive bolts that tore my fecken hand to pieces!" Im not worried about . If I survived cutting meat,fish  & poultry for 35 years a few dings from a bridge wont be a problem."McMordie" humpf!!! must be from south part of the island!
-machine heads are  good except for 1 screw ,and I think that is resolved.
-Ive tried to make contact  for a scratchplate and got no response. Any suggestions would help.
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: Dave W on September 03, 2008, 06:33:40 PM
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"McMordie" humpf!!! must be from south part of the island!

Belfast far enough south for you?  ;D
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: chromium on September 03, 2008, 10:21:14 PM
-Ive tried to make contact  for a scratchplate and got no response. Any suggestions would help.

Looks like these guys might have a template for the 301:

http://pickguards.us/priceguild.html (http://pickguards.us/priceguild.html)
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on September 04, 2008, 05:30:02 AM
That is the one I got no  response from.WTF!!!
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: drbassman on September 04, 2008, 08:53:30 AM
So what's the final word on the dimensions of those bridge posts?  I'm gonna search out some inserts for it.
Title: Re: Guild 302
Post by: shadowcastaz on September 04, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
1.5 thread.