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Title: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2016, 06:14:44 AM
... a new track from the forthcoming album release (isn't it terrible how I still say "album"), very Alcatrazzy, Malmsteeny guitar solo and all, with those typical operatic vocal lines of his which you either love or find OTT ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtuQSuAl_bs

... and a new bassist who only coincidentally caught my eye ...

(http://denaflows.com/blog/gallery/02080-5d2-15-11-14-graham-bonnet/015_Graham_Bonnet_15XI14_por_Dena_Flows.jpg)

For the avoidance of doubt: That is not Mark, you can tell by the gear played (she is actually a lefty, but plays righty). Mark, of course, plays Thunderbirds over Gallien Kruegers. Still, the general likeness and similar sartorial splendor are unsettling.

Interesting background story on how she - the suitably named Ms Beth-Ami Heavenstone - joined the band: Initially not really acquainted with Bonnet's pedigree, she had second thoughts about touring internationally "because I'm a single mom with an autistic child". That's when Bonnet mentioned that he has an autistic child as well and that caught her interest.

Speculations are rife that since then the two have discovered further commonalities as well, but I'm not voicing an opinion on that. We are not tabloid here, but dedicated to compelling scientific evidence. The new track does contain the line "what a beautiful creature we are ..." though.  :)
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: nofi on February 25, 2016, 06:31:16 AM
i bet there are a lot of lefties playing right handed, me for one.
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2016, 06:39:28 AM
I always wonder about that - shouldn't that give you more fretting hand strength and dexterity? When you think about it, especially as a pick player, using your "main hand" just for hitting the strings is kind of a waste.
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: nofi on February 25, 2016, 07:18:23 AM
in my case my fretting hand has always given me more problems than my plucking hand. having ADD does not help either concentration wise.  i have tried playing as a "correct" lefty but no way. :P
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: luve2fli on February 25, 2016, 07:29:46 AM
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Still, the general likeness and similar sartorial splendor are unsettling


 ;D I actually LOL'd at that statement.

Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: leftybass on February 25, 2016, 09:10:34 AM
I always wonder about that - shouldn't that give you more fretting hand strength and dexterity? When you think about it, especially as a pick player, using your "main hand" just for hitting the strings is kind of a waste.

Are you saying you play lefty?
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: lowend1 on February 25, 2016, 09:33:39 AM
... a new track from the forthcoming album release (isn't it terrible how I still say "album")

Not really. The term "album" does not define the medium, simply that it is a collection of recordings.
He's looking kinds wrinkly these days, no?
Speaking of beating a dead horse, I'm going to see JLT tomorrow night in one of the local NJ venues. Hopefully he will keep his political jabbering and love of Vladimir Putin out of the set. Word has it that guitar duties for these local shows are being handled by Steve Brown of Trixter. :roll eyes:
http://www.northjersey.com/arts-and-entertainment/music/north-jersey-s-joe-lynn-turner-in-a-rare-stateside-gig-1.1516835?page=1
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Alanko on February 25, 2016, 09:35:38 AM
i bet there are a lot of lefties playing right handed, me for one.

Me for two.  :mrgreen: I played violin first, and lefty violins and violinists don't really exist. The left hand has always been the notes hand, for me.
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2016, 09:49:47 AM
Are you saying you play lefty?

No, political views excepted, I'm righty-righty. But I've played with the idea of buying a lefthand bass and learning it just to see what it is like (not an orignal thought, righty Frank Marino of Mahogany Rush already did it in the 70ies to be closer to his idol Jimi Hendrix). I'd probably sound like two completely different bass players then.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Highlander on February 25, 2016, 01:15:02 PM
... having ADD does not help either ...

I think this is the first time I've ever known you do this, curiously enough...
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Basshappi on February 25, 2016, 04:39:50 PM
There are a few of us who are right handed but play lefty. Greta Brinkman is another.
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: gweimer on February 25, 2016, 09:14:32 PM
i bet there are a lot of lefties playing right handed, me for one.

...raises hand... it's a matter of which hand is doing the most work.
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2016, 08:11:40 AM
Not really. The term "album" does not define the medium, simply that it is a collection of recordings.
He's looking kinds wrinkly these days, no?
Speaking of beating a dead horse, I'm going to see JLT tomorrow night in one of the local NJ venues. Hopefully he will keep his political jabbering and love of Vladimir Putin out of the set. Word has it that guitar duties for these local shows are being handled by Steve Brown of Trixter. :roll eyes:
http://www.northjersey.com/arts-and-entertainment/music/north-jersey-s-joe-lynn-turner-in-a-rare-stateside-gig-1.1516835?page=1

Well, tell us how it went! I've seen JOLT with Rainbow twice (a weaker frontman than either Dio or Bonnet, too much prancing), once with DP (that was a very good gig at Hammersmith, very musical) and once with the Hughes-Turner vanity package. Not once did he sing anything but well. It's EVERYTHING ELSE HE DOES that is sometimes difficult to stomach, but, frankly, his voice has held up better than either Gillan's or Coverdale's and is not as much an acquired, divisive taste as Hughes'.

These days, where bald singers/frontmen are nothing rare with the hard rock or heavy metal crowd, I just wish he would give up that silly "Dynasty"-style wig!
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: TBird1958 on February 26, 2016, 09:36:33 AM

 Nothing but props to you lefties playing righty!



I can barely do that "other" thing left handed - it does feel like someone else  :-*
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: uwe on February 26, 2016, 10:06:19 AM
Doesn't it bug you how this upstart copycats you?

(http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-imitation-is-the-sincerest-form-of-flattery-that-mediocrity-can-pay-to-greatness-oscar-wilde-121-38-30.jpg)
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: TBird1958 on February 26, 2016, 11:13:42 AM


 Yeah, but what can you do!  :P
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: lowend1 on February 26, 2016, 03:57:41 PM
Well, tell us how it went!

Will do.
Joe has become an something of an unintended constant in life - not like we're buddies or anything - but geographically, our hometowns are literally minutes away from one another. I used to see him playing with local bands at the high school dances, I dated his cousin as a teenager, was a day late and a dollar short hearing about an opening for a bass player in his solo band, was working in a repair shop when he wandered in looking to get his car fixed. So naturally, the girl I married happened to be a big fan of his. As a result, I find myself at most of his local shows. Rainbow was almost an incidental thing - I never saw him live with either them or during his aborted DP stint.
So, last month I went to see Eric Martin from Mr Big, who happened to be doing an acoustic opening set for Trixter. Guess who shows up to jam?
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/_DSC0626editlo_zpswmmtlxvq.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/lowend1/media/_DSC0626editlo_zpswmmtlxvq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: nofi on February 26, 2016, 04:10:47 PM
turner and blackmore could be the start of an all wig band. throw in jeff beck and all you need is a drummer. :P
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Highlander on February 26, 2016, 04:15:27 PM
I vote for Chris Slade, as in Frank Beard... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: lowend1 on February 27, 2016, 03:03:17 PM
OK, so a good set last night from JLT. Played about an hour or so. Song list was made up of Rainbow and Deep Purple stuff - no real surprises - with the exception of Malmsteen's "Rising Force" which I haven't ever seen him play live. Joe was in good voice and the band was tight for the most part. Steve Brown did a pretty decent job of covering the guitar parts, although I prefer someone with a more "organic" sound.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/_DSC0370Editlo_zpswahefqyo.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/lowend1/media/_DSC0370Editlo_zpswahefqyo.jpg.html)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/lowend1/IMG_0413lo_zpswzj59xff.jpg) (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/lowend1/media/IMG_0413lo_zpswzj59xff.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Basvarken on February 28, 2016, 03:06:07 AM
Graham Bonnet certainly has a very unique voice and a way of singing. I really like his singing on Assault Attack with Herr Schenker.
But I kinda feel sorry for him that he has to sing all that ultra high pitched stuff until the day he dies. No matter how many new albums he makes and how he wisely chooses to avoid those ridiculously high regions. His audience will always demand for the Rainbow/Alcatrazz/MSG repertoire

Last year he did a couple of guest appearances.
Painfull to watch.
Each time he needs to reach for the high notes he looks like he is cramping up. (maybe he holds his hand in his pocket for a purpose...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnj64I_MfPY
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: wellREDman on February 28, 2016, 07:00:06 AM
I always wonder about that - shouldn't that give you more fretting hand strength and dexterity? When you think about it, especially as a pick player, using your "main hand" just for hitting the strings is kind of a waste.

 that is something that has always perplexed me too,

I think it is that we're focusing our attention on the fretting hand and letting the plucking hand act more intuitively and don't realise just how much of the feel of the note being played comes from the way the strings are hit.
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: lowend1 on February 28, 2016, 09:21:41 AM
Painfull to watch.
Each time he needs to reach for the high notes he looks like he is cramping up. (maybe he holds his hand in his pocket for a purpose...)

I saw him with Alcatrazz in '84, IIRC - at the time, his hair was blonde, and his face was bright red for most of the set ;D. Some of his idiosyncrasies might be due to the fact that he is an epileptic, although I doubt that has anything to do with his actual voice. There is certainly nobody else I can think of that constructs the melody to a song the way he does - he is unmistakable. He doesn't follow the conventional, time-tested patterns for rock vocals - and that would certainly impact the accessibility of his music over the years. I've found that in small doses, he is a joy to listen to, but wears you out rather quickly.
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: nofi on February 28, 2016, 09:36:03 AM
god, whadda' pile of horse shite. uwe should love it. :mrgreen: this tired, outdated euro hard rock schtick just refuses to die. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: gweimer on February 28, 2016, 11:09:50 AM
Did anyone happen to notice the sign at 00:15 in the original video link?    8)
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Alanko on February 28, 2016, 11:35:52 AM
Just Wiki'd Bonnet. Turns out he is 68! That might explain why his voice is pretty terrible.  :sad:
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Basvarken on February 28, 2016, 11:46:41 AM
I think he looks older...
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Alanko on February 28, 2016, 12:01:39 PM
Has he had a drink problem in the past?
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Dave W on February 28, 2016, 07:30:46 PM
Just Wiki'd Bonnet. Turns out he is 68! That might explain why his voice is pretty terrible.  :sad:

Age is no excuse. There are country singers still performing in their 80s whose voices are fine.
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Basvarken on February 28, 2016, 11:59:55 PM
Yeah, well country singers usually don't venture into those high octane regions.
It's common knowledge that the human voice lowers with age.
Bonnet has been forcing himself to scream beyond his reach for years and years
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: Dave W on February 29, 2016, 11:50:22 AM
You're confirming my point. If he's been forcing himself to scream beyond his reach for so long, then his age isn't the reason.
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: uwe on March 04, 2016, 08:14:50 AM
Did anyone happen to notice the sign at 00:15 in the original video link?    8)

Ja, and how I do hope that sign reads "Birkenstock" and not "Birkenau".  :-\
Title: Re: Something new from Herr Bonnet ...
Post by: uwe on March 22, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
The former "just the bass player" has now been promoted to significant other ("girlfriend") - I just knew it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEI_9QS-gE8

Read all about the private lives of the (former) stars - only here ... in the LBO!