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patman

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Plugging straight into the board
« on: November 07, 2010, 03:56:58 PM »
About a month ago one of my combo 300's crapped out on a job...sounds like I cooked the woofer with my 6 string, but I haven't been motivated enough to diagnose the problem yet...

We used my JBL EON on a stand about 2 ft from my head, made a separate monitor mix for just bass and roland v-drums (drummer has an EON on the same monitor mix), and ran the bass from my pedal board thru my direct box straight into the board for the drummer and me...what a difference...it's like playing in the studio only on stage....the time is tighter...vocals are tighter...

I wish I had done this years before. And a JBL EON (35 pound-unpowered) is a hell of a lot lighter than a bass amp.

Anybody else do something similar to this? Was an eye-opening experience--no more Mississippi mud for me.

rahock

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Re: Plugging straight into the board
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2010, 05:41:05 AM »
I've run my Olympia ABG direct in the board several times and it worked very well. I use 3 of the early JBL powered  EONs (180 watt) as monitors . The early EONs specs indicate the frequency response should be crap for bass but they sound good to me  :).
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Re: Plugging straight into the board
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2010, 08:24:13 AM »
For stage monitors, the EONS sound good. They crap out a little on real low frequencies, though.

We also use them out front for mids and highs. They are light and durable.

I think this setup will o-k for indoors. We played at Grand Victoria Casino this weekend, and the setup worked well, and sounded good. Outdoors is a different story, of course

Psycho Bass Guy

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Re: Plugging straight into the board
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2010, 12:03:27 PM »
Sounds like you're not fighting an amp voicing, and you're hearing the V-Drum kick and you in the same speaker. Having a drum/bass mix alone makes a huge difference. Was your bass in any of the monitors in addition to your amp before?

patman

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Re: Plugging straight into the board
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 01:41:00 PM »
No...and the clarity was not there with the amp itself...

I think the bass/drums monitor-mix is just being run through a spare CS800 that was in the rack already...probably just being carried around in case something else died. It sounds so much better than my amp, and the stage is so much quieter.  It's really like night and day.

It's like being in the studio, only on stage.

The old Peavey covered up a lot of sloppy technique...this is like playing in the studio where you hear everything.
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Re: Plugging straight into the board
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 06:46:09 PM »
Old Peavey combo bass amps are famous for a certain sound, and clarity it ain't.

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Re: Plugging straight into the board
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 09:03:01 AM »
I just started using in-ear monitors about a month ago. Same effect - like playing in the studio. I can hear my dynamics and slop plain as day. And for vocals - it's like singing directly into your own ear. I love it. I could technically ditch my amp at this point. But I won't...

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Re: Plugging straight into the board
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 12:37:25 PM »
always hate the sound of my  bass in any monitors.  studio is fine but drives me crazy live.  i am just old school...  my hearing (or lack there of) will  prove that...
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